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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 10, 2017 10:37:41 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Dec 10, 2017 10:40:49 GMT -6
They're just Keller shells though. Nothing much different than others imho..
As a drummer of almost 30 years, the things that matter most for sound are the heads, bearing edges and depth of the shell.
If a company isn't taking these into account already, then they aren't very good at selling drums!
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 10, 2017 10:48:02 GMT -6
There’s a complete 4 piece kit, HH, r and 2 crashes all stands asking $600 cdn like $400 usd.
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Post by svart on Dec 10, 2017 11:08:53 GMT -6
There’s a complete 4 piece kit, HH, r and 2 crashes all stands asking $600 cdn like $400 usd. Well for that price it's a great deal since that's about how much just the keller shells go for new. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 10, 2017 12:54:32 GMT -6
and its all his good cymbals from his sonar pro kit and he has a fourth tom: kind of hard to say no  |
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Post by ragan on Dec 10, 2017 13:50:37 GMT -6
I have a Precision kit. Have had it for years. Got it for like $600 new. It’s a nice kit, like Svart said, heads, edges, size.
If you’re looking for a kit, grab it! You don’t have to pay for the branding with Precision. Same shells lots of other, more expensive brands would be using.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Dec 10, 2017 19:33:16 GMT -6
I have owned about 4 of the Precision drum kits.
As they are down the road from me, just a few miles away.
I did a few demo recordings highlighting their kits a few years back.
Let's see.
They built me, a nesting kit for one of my touring bands, a jazz kit, 1 small set for my nite club, and a beautiful recording kit for my studio.
Plus, I helped to sell at least 8 custom made kits to drummers after they heard mine.
That being said every few years, I get bored, I sell a few, and then buy new different thickness shells and sizes.
The fact is,
They are not breaking any new ground, just simple and nicely put together kits to order.
I think their real thing is, the custom finishes, and wraps!
Gary the owner is one of the good ones, he will build anything you want, within their limitations.
But as mentioned earlier, they are Keller shells, and to me that's the BIG limiting factor!
None the less.... a great family business, and wonderful kits as long as they meet your requirements!
Tell em Paul sent ya!
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 10, 2017 20:07:18 GMT -6
So what’s the problem with Keller shells? Do they split, sound bad, sleep with your girlfriend: what ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 22:18:40 GMT -6
So what’s the problem with Keller shells? Do they split, sound bad, sleep with your girlfriend: what ? Nothing inherently wrong with Keller shells. They're reliably manufactured and sound good for the price. The reason they're occasionally mentioned in a dismissive way is because, despite not being particularly unique, there was a trend of "boutique custom" manufacturers popping up and charging steam-bent prices for kits made of these mass produced Keller shells. They sound good, but not that expensive good. (You can see example shell pricing here www.aitwood.com/images/pdf/DrumShells.pdf -- sidenote, no affiliation outside of a happy customer, but they're great folks to deal with if you want to build your own kit. Shipping to Canada may hurt, though!) In this case it sounds like you're getting excellent value for the money, so I'd buy with confidence if a kit is what you want. |
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Post by allbuttonmode on Dec 11, 2017 4:13:04 GMT -6
Keller is the standard in ply shells. There's no disputing that. Unless the brand makes ply shells themselves, they use Keller. I have a '97 set of Ayotte Custom drums. They claimed they made their own ply shells, but I have on good authority they're Kellers. But they have different types, though: www.kellershells.com/index.phpAs stated already, bearing edges, wrap/no wrap and heads make them most difference. |
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Post by allbuttonmode on Dec 11, 2017 4:24:30 GMT -6
Nothing inherently wrong with Keller shells. They're reliably manufactured and sound good for the price. They sound good, but not that expensive good. Hi David. Can you give me an example of drums that sound expensive good, as you put it? What build techniques was used? Stave? Steambent? Non-wood? Block? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 11, 2017 5:44:13 GMT -6
Thx so essentially made from ply vs solid wood .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 12:30:22 GMT -6
Nothing inherently wrong with Keller shells. They're reliably manufactured and sound good for the price. They sound good, but not that expensive good. Hi David. Can you give me an example of drums that sound expensive good, as you put it? What build techniques was used? Stave? Steambent? Non-wood? Block? Hi Button, As others have mentioned a drum's sound is the sum of many different parts, so there's no clear answer as far as build techniques go, I've probably liked drums constructed out of all of the above methods. I specifically mentioned steambent in my post because it's labor and skill intensive, so if you were choosing between a Keller shell and a Steambent shell, and each was priced at $500, the steambent is likely to represent better value, assuming proper wood choice and construction. From a subjective standpoint, many prefer the sound of solid woods over birch/maple ply, too. As far as manufacturers, Sugar Percussion is on my shortlist of stuff to audition if I ever decide (aka can afford) to get a really nice kit. Black Swamp Percussion and Joshua Tree Percussion do some interesting stuff, too. |
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