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Post by ariel on Dec 1, 2017 20:00:53 GMT -6
The flock audio looks amazing and with phantom power !! very well thought out.
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 2, 2017 21:29:28 GMT -6
2 - one Switchcraft 96, one Redco 96, both dsub. I think I need one more though. There's always that unexpected need!! And the OTHER unexpected need. And the other.... and the o.....,
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 2, 2017 21:33:44 GMT -6
There must be a shit ton of relays inside that thing. I'd like to see the internal routing on that thing. I also don't imagine this will be cheap. But it's a cool idea. I wish I could afford six of them. My guess would be FET switches. Much cheaper, smaller, and easier to implement. As you'd probably expect, I don't approve unless it's REALLY well done, but...... EDIT: I looked over it again - it looks to me that it provides for all manner of cross-patching WITHIN THAT BAY, but has few, if any, provisions for patching in external devices (in other words, if somebody brings in a couple of his favorite processing devices he probably can't just connect the cables and plug 'em in.) - which, to me, makes it pretty damn useless. If not, where are the external inputs? There are a couple or four 1/4"/XLR combo jacks on the front panel, but what if you want to patch in more than one stero device or 2 mono? This thing appears to totally ignore the primary feature of any patchbay - EXTERNAL ACCESS!
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 2, 2017 21:46:36 GMT -6
How are the switchcraft 9625’s are they a robust build quality, because they seem kinda fid’ly with those switchable normaling screws, maybe it’s just the way they look in the pics? Switchcraft Rules! - their built quality is unequalled. HOWEVER - the 9625 costs nearly a THOUSAND BUCKS? You can pick up a used Switchcraft 96 point TT for $100-$200 any day of the week. HOW MUCH IS YOUR TIME WORTH, and do you really want to deal with DB25s and an additional layer (or possibly two?) of connectors/adapters and all the cost that entails, or would it make a lot more sense to simply bite the bullet and spend a couple of days with the soldering station, a reel of Belden 8451/9451, and a Panavise? Building a bay isn't difficult - it's just a bit tedious. EDIT: and the old fashioned 96 points tt strips (or 1/4" 48 point TELCO strips, for that matter) are all MODULAR - you can take each jack out to work on it with just one screw! Considering that once your bay is set up you're not likely to want to reconfigure your normalling, does it really make sense to pay 100s of $ extra for switching you're hardly ever going to use?
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Post by ericn on Dec 2, 2017 22:30:24 GMT -6
How are the switchcraft 9625’s are they a robust build quality, because they seem kinda fid’ly with those switchable normaling screws, maybe it’s just the way they look in the pics? Switchcraft Rules! - their built quality is unequalled. HOWEVER - the 9625 costs nearly a THOUSAND BUCKS? You can pick up a used Switchcraft 96 point TT for $100-$200 any day of the week. HOW MUCH IS YOUR TIME WORTH, and do you really want to deal with DB25s and an additional layer (or possibly two?) of connectors/adapters and all the cost that entails, or would it make a lot more sense to simply bite the bullet and spend a couple of days with the soldering station, a reel of Belden 8451/9451, and a Panavise? Building a bay isn't difficult - it's just a bit tedious. EDIT: and the old fashioned 96 points tt strips (or 1/4" 48 point TELCO strips, for that matter) are all MODULAR - you can take each jack out to work on it with just one screw! Considering that once your bay is set up you're not likely to want to reconfigure your normalling, does it really make sense to pay 100s of $ extra for switching you're hardly ever going to use? Agreed but John this bay isn't for you and me, it's for the guy who is going to only buy a bay or 2 and continually switch stuff around! Good TT jacks are a thing of simple engineering beauty, and bays are a great way to perfect ones solder and heatshrink skills! The simplest lesson if trying to solder in the cramped space scares you on screw the jack! I do most of the time, but then guys like John have all their fingers and they all work right! As I have said before If I can solder with these fucked up hands the rest of you can, in fact I sent a pic of a bay I soldered to my OT and shows it to all her patients and explains I couldn't hold a cup to my mouth when we started, I can now do this now SHEs that GOOD!
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