Studio Business And US Tax Cuts

That my freind is the over all dumbing down of medical professionals of all types, imagine me, I am the protocol for a 97% burn!
Unfortunately without going to a public option, Medicare for everyone, the mandate was the only way of forcing people to buy insurance to subsidize well me😁!
The thing that is misunderstood about the requirements for the policy tiers is that people were getting screwed on these crappy policies that covered nothing, for years both parties had been telling the low end insurance providers to clean up the act, I can't remember when I have been in the ER and somebody didn't learn their insurance policy wasn't worth the cost of paper it was printed on.
While it has always been fraud to misrepresent what's in a policy try proving, even the best insurance agents don't really know what they are selling at consumer level, even most lawyers don't understand their own policies I know 3 very good ones who didn't realize they would be screwed on their home owners policies as written!

Yeah but here's the rub more and more your health insurance, probably part of the same company as the malpractice insurance company always wants to know if " this was because of an accident "so they can sue someone else's insurance company.
Also if some procedure is needed because of screw up or just shouldn't have happened Medicare / Medicare and insurance won't pay for it it is a " non event"!

Actually, my stance has always been that Ocrapacare is nothing more than a wealth transfer mechanism and has essentially nothing to do with healthcare. Just another tool for hollowing out what remained of the middle class to further the spread between the rich and poor / wealth inequality. Not an unintended consequence whatsoever. If I sound bitter it's because the thought of $2000 per month with $7500 deductibles per person is............

I've heard of people's monthly rate go from a grand a person down to $1, perfectly legally. It's the way they designed it. Of course they did, because they are all in the same boat you are. IF you are putting your money to work back into the economy, and not trying to hoard it in a bank account, the tax code and Obamacare will save your butt big time. If you want to sit on your cash and assetts then that's when they will sniff it out sadly. Either uncle same or the insurance angencies and doctors will smell blood. Most people like my father or his wife will probably die broke due to some dragged out illness for 10 years which will bleed out his savings that he struggled so hard to build. If you want to pass your savings on to loved ones, speak to accountant, small business attorney and estate planner sooner rather than later. See what options you have. Tell them you want to protect yourself as much as possible. The reason they have jobs is because they save people money in a way that people can't figure out without legal help. And congress of course being a lot of lawyer friendly people happen to make things so that lawyers will always be in demand. Just a quick Example: How many times did our president declare bankruptcy protection on an investment? 6 times I think? And he's supposed to be on the side of the "suck it up and deal with it" crowd. Yeah.. so nobody should feel guilty following the law ourselves, even though the laws are selfish garbage. It's by design and all I can hope is that somebody up there did some sort of math knowing that it all sort of will work out, even in the face of silliness haha. (I probably shouldn't comment on this stuff lol.. I really like this place though : ) )

You do realise that's the exact excuse used to keep everything broken?

The US isn't some extraterrestrial super complex civilisation. Every single other developed country has figured this out – just pick one of these other proven systems, and copy it.

That's the trap again: you're going back to we're different and special. But you're not.

Healthcare isn't an ideology – it's a service. Your broken bones are exactly the same as Norwegian broken bones. Your cancer is the same, your drugs are even the same. Your entire concept of medecine is identical.

That's where this whole thing breaks down. Healthcare and how it's provided isn't supposed to appease some political or ideological views. It shouldn't even be political or ideological in the first place. The whole big/small government thing, or 'who's going to pay for it' doesn't seem to matter when it comes to that ridiculous military. Why should healthcare be so different?

This is the issue, it is complex and has a million moving parts by design. It's okay, I look forward to the day this POS forced down our throats bad dream legislation finally implodes.

I didn't say healthcare is an ideology.  I said that the U.S. is particularly ideologically disparate as well as being enormous which means we have a particularly broad range of conflicting, passionate dogmas.  And that has a drastic effect on our political climate when it comes to building consensus.  Some people (as evidenced here) despise the ACA with a burning passion.  This can be because they fell into one of its no man's lands where they made too much money to qualify for its subsidies but not enough to be able to go it alone.  Or it can be because the right wing convinced a lot of people this was some major socialist intervention (it wasn't).  Some people absolutely love the ACA.  This can be because they or their loved ones suddenly weren't gonna be bankrupted by illness because insurance companies were no longer allowed to kick them off their plans once they got sick.  Or it can be because the left wing here wanted to see the ACA as a shining victory for liberalism (it wasn't that either).  

My point isn't that there is no way to address healthcare so we should just throw our hands up.  My point is just that we're too huge, too disparate and too divided to be adults about anything and come to sensible compromise.  

Reminder, Obamacare was never designed to work. It was generously benefit heavy in the initial years, the true costs and penalties deferred until after the 2016 election. The real pain for people not qualified for subsidies is just kicking in now. 

The legions of healthy younger people paying the ridiculous premiums have not materialized, the exchanges have collapsed in many places, there's little choice and no value in what's offered. 

The idea is the outcry to fix it would answered by Hillary and DC and we'd get single payer. The plan was it would take 10-15 years post ACA to get there. We're what, eight years out now.

Quoting out of context can leave a false impression at odds with the thrust of the original statement.

I don't think that having either two parties ideologically in total opposition or two parties in near agreement are a good thing. I believe that both parties should be flexible. What we have now is the result of a particular stratum of society adopting a very long term strategy to transform the political structure of the country from a participatory democracy into an industrial oligarchy with neo-facist influences. The roots of it go back the the industrialist backlash to FDR's policies to deal with the Great Depression and to stave off a potential Communist revolutionary movement and they go very deep into aspects of upper crust American Society. A study of the Skull and Bones Society at Yale University can be quite informative in tracing associations, but it's only one of the more visible aspects.

What's odd about the present situation is that actually the "traditional" leadership of both major parties are in fact very close to each other, with the Democratic leadership moving from what was once a left leaning centrist position to what used to be regarded as a moderate right wing position and the Republicans moving to a more or less hard right, but both behaving as if there were a hard left-right split. There isn't, or hasn't been for a long time but the current situation of a blatant swing to the hard right may very well have awakened one. What happened is that a coup by very irresponsible elements of the Right managed, with the help of media control made possible by the internet, to seize enough power to split the party and cause a major rucus within the country, causing the right to all but abandon the program of subtle manipulation and control they pursued for many decades. This in turn has opened up opportunities for loeft leaning elements of the population to make themselves heard as they have not been since the 1960s. It could be that the recent tax bill and the Net Netrality changes might be the last straw, assuming that the new left leaning wing of the Democratic Party manages not to shoot themselves in the foot again, which is something they've become quite good at in recent years, largely by overconfidence and an inability to see things from the point of view of anybody but northern urban neo-liberal "progressives" (a term I really hate, because it can mean almost anything depends on who's using it.)

I do think that the Republicans effectively breaking the two party system was an incredibly dumb move, as it has provoked a huge backlash.

Barry Goldwater ansd Dwight Eisenhower are turning violently in their graves, it's a wonder that the cemetary tenders can keep the lawn mowed.