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Post by spindrift on Nov 10, 2017 18:22:29 GMT -6
Probably not helpful, but sometimes I hear recordings that make me want to just sell all my shit...
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Post by svart on Nov 10, 2017 19:12:07 GMT -6
Pretty much any modern recordings..
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Post by c0rtland on Nov 10, 2017 19:42:45 GMT -6
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 10, 2017 19:45:19 GMT -6
Most John Mayer records leave me scratching my head wondering how he (and they) get such perfectly clean and noise free electric guitars, especially since he uses lots of strats and a fair amount of fx pedals.
I find half my time is spent messing about getting rid of as much noise as possible - no matter what studio I’m working at. Drives me nuts.
Mayer productions make it seem effortless.
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Post by c0rtland on Nov 10, 2017 20:02:04 GMT -6
Most John Mayer records leave me scratching my head wondering how he (and they) get such perfectly clean and noise free electric guitars, especially since he uses lots of strats and a fair amount of fx pedals. I find half my time is spent messing about getting rid of as much noise as possible - no matter what studio I’m working at. Drives me nuts. Mayer productions make it seem effortless. I'd bet my bottom dollar he has a guitar tech that makes sure that stuff doesn't happen, and finds solutions when necessary. I think Andrew scheps was talking about Metallica and how their guitars are utterly silent. Zero noise. At that level solutions can be had when you have bottomless funds and access to world-class techs. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 10, 2017 20:31:33 GMT -6
Can’t think of the name of the tracks right now - but Cobb has a few tunes he produced that are totally dry sounding, and it’s amazing.
I’ve tried doing this on a few projects and just can’t ever pull it off...
Really frustrating haha.
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Post by jeromemason on Nov 10, 2017 20:46:08 GMT -6
Izotope RX 6 is invaluable to me when I'm hired to edit albums. The De-noise function will leave everything totally in tact and erase all that noise.
On label releases the amount of editing involved is probably around 10 hours on average per song. Depending what I'm asked to do it could take an hour or 15. What is the most time consuming is aligning the drums and bass honestly. In these types of releases you can't just do a global snap. I have to start out with what I feel moves the song the best and then start snapping the entire band around that. But, in almost every single session I have to de-noise the guitars. Some of these cats still will send out tracks that have clipping and the RX6 can solve that as well, I use it all the time in fixing clipping.
I'd be completely blown away if they've found a way to keep any high/mid gain amp totally silent, Most guys use pedals anyways as well, they're noisy when you start pushing any amplifier with them. Not all songs I will be asked to snap, but they always want that noise removed. If I get a project to mix and the guy before me editing didn't do this I always take the time to rid all the tracks of noise and clipping.
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 10, 2017 22:03:37 GMT -6
Izotope RX 6 is invaluable to me when I'm hired to edit albums. The De-noise function will leave everything totally in tact and erase all that noise. On label releases the amount of editing involved is probably around 10 hours on average per song. Depending what I'm asked to do it could take an hour or 15. What is the most time consuming is aligning the drums and bass honestly. In these types of releases you can't just do a global snap. I have to start out with what I feel moves the song the best and then start snapping the entire band around that. But, in almost every single session I have to de-noise the guitars. Some of these cats still will send out tracks that have clipping and the RX6 can solve that as well, I use it all the time in fixing clipping. I'd be completely blown away if they've found a way to keep any high/mid gain amp totally silent, Most guys use pedals anyways as well, they're noisy when you start pushing any amplifier with them. Not all songs I will be asked to snap, but they always want that noise removed. If I get a project to mix and the guy before me editing didn't do this I always take the time to rid all the tracks of noise and clipping. Even 60 cycle hum? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 10, 2017 22:29:46 GMT -6
This new Sam Smith record is both inspiring and depressing...Just a fantastic record.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 10, 2017 22:41:20 GMT -6
Izotope RX 6 is invaluable to me when I'm hired to edit albums. The De-noise function will leave everything totally in tact and erase all that noise. On label releases the amount of editing involved is probably around 10 hours on average per song. Depending what I'm asked to do it could take an hour or 15. What is the most time consuming is aligning the drums and bass honestly. In these types of releases you can't just do a global snap. I have to start out with what I feel moves the song the best and then start snapping the entire band around that. But, in almost every single session I have to de-noise the guitars. Some of these cats still will send out tracks that have clipping and the RX6 can solve that as well, I use it all the time in fixing clipping. I'd be completely blown away if they've found a way to keep any high/mid gain amp totally silent, Most guys use pedals anyways as well, they're noisy when you start pushing any amplifier with them. Not all songs I will be asked to snap, but they always want that noise removed. If I get a project to mix and the guy before me editing didn't do this I always take the time to rid all the tracks of noise and clipping. Kind of crazy to me that any heavy band wouldn’t fully edit the drums before moving on to tracking the bass and guitars. That’s usually the first move for me. Get that stuff locked up and it makes everything else easier to deal with down the line. I don’t think I’d take on an editing project that was tracked with nothing locked up. Especially if the heavy guitars didn’t have a DI track to edit off of. Bless you! 🙏🏻 |
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Post by jeromemason on Nov 10, 2017 22:46:20 GMT -6
Izotope RX 6 is invaluable to me when I'm hired to edit albums. The De-noise function will leave everything totally in tact and erase all that noise. On label releases the amount of editing involved is probably around 10 hours on average per song. Depending what I'm asked to do it could take an hour or 15. What is the most time consuming is aligning the drums and bass honestly. In these types of releases you can't just do a global snap. I have to start out with what I feel moves the song the best and then start snapping the entire band around that. But, in almost every single session I have to de-noise the guitars. Some of these cats still will send out tracks that have clipping and the RX6 can solve that as well, I use it all the time in fixing clipping. I'd be completely blown away if they've found a way to keep any high/mid gain amp totally silent, Most guys use pedals anyways as well, they're noisy when you start pushing any amplifier with them. Not all songs I will be asked to snap, but they always want that noise removed. If I get a project to mix and the guy before me editing didn't do this I always take the time to rid all the tracks of noise and clipping. Even 60 cycle hum? Yep..... Now, I mean you can have some issues if you're getting that out of a bass.... But other than that it'll suck it right out. |
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Post by jeromemason on Nov 10, 2017 22:54:45 GMT -6
Izotope RX 6 is invaluable to me when I'm hired to edit albums. The De-noise function will leave everything totally in tact and erase all that noise. On label releases the amount of editing involved is probably around 10 hours on average per song. Depending what I'm asked to do it could take an hour or 15. What is the most time consuming is aligning the drums and bass honestly. In these types of releases you can't just do a global snap. I have to start out with what I feel moves the song the best and then start snapping the entire band around that. But, in almost every single session I have to de-noise the guitars. Some of these cats still will send out tracks that have clipping and the RX6 can solve that as well, I use it all the time in fixing clipping. I'd be completely blown away if they've found a way to keep any high/mid gain amp totally silent, Most guys use pedals anyways as well, they're noisy when you start pushing any amplifier with them. Not all songs I will be asked to snap, but they always want that noise removed. If I get a project to mix and the guy before me editing didn't do this I always take the time to rid all the tracks of noise and clipping. Kind of crazy to me that any heavy band wouldn’t fully edit the drums before moving on to tracking the bass and guitars. That’s usually the first move for me. Get that stuff locked up and it makes everything else easier to deal with down the line. I don’t think I’d take on an editing project that was tracked with nothing locked up. Especially if the heavy guitars didn’t have a DI track to edit off of. Bless you! 🙏🏻 Nope.... In the stuff I work on the band has played to a click and together. So, when I edit I go for whatever instrument is grooving the best to me and I'll lock everything around it. That's all by hand too, not just doing a mass snap with beat detective or elastic, that's going one instrument at a time, making the cuts, nudging around and then applying the fade, manually as well. To get a track to groove right if you start snapping drums to the grid before anyone else plays on it then it takes away from the natural movement a song should have. Letting everyone swing a bit makes the mix sound natural to me, the trick and all the hard work comes when you have to lock everyone together with that swing. The producers on these projects could care less if it takes me 10 hours a song to lock everything with a natural groove and movement. There is normally a pretty sizable budget for editing. Plus doing all the cleaning, de-noising, fades, squeeks etc. etc. These projects have to be perfect but sound like no one every laid a hand on them. It's definitely a challenge but I love doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 2:47:47 GMT -6
This, my fave recorded acoustic guitar sound of all time.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 11, 2017 17:19:20 GMT -6
Lots of stuff, anything by Nigel Godrich in the past 20 years.
I've been listening to some pretty inspiring Eric Valentine produced stuff the past few days.
Joe Barresi with Queens of the Stone Age. So heavy and big sounding. Perfection on vinyl.
Anything in the past 20 years by Aphex Twin (Richard D. James) as well.
Takes you right back to school.
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