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Post by unit7 on Jan 6, 2014 17:40:36 GMT -6
Mixing a rock'ish song that calls for a more processed sound (finally!  ). Compared the eq on my desk (Harrison), LC53As and the TB550, and winner was the TBs. Used on BD, SD and OHs with some pretty heavy boosting. Feeling some DIY luuuve here! |
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Post by horvitz on Jan 7, 2014 10:51:24 GMT -6
Awesome!! This kind of stuff can really make a guy's day  Thanks so much. |
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Post by unit7 on Jan 7, 2014 12:54:39 GMT -6
My pleasure Brian. I already posted a pic at GDIY but couldn't resist a followup TB550s from left to right: BD, SD and OH L/R. Clients came in today to finalize mix. All smiles. Attachments:
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 7, 2014 23:30:02 GMT -6
Nice, what were the characteristics where Brian's TB shined over the others Paul?
Thanx and happy new year fellas
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Post by unit7 on Jan 8, 2014 3:57:55 GMT -6
Thx Tony! I tried to explain the last time you asked and I'm afraid I can't describe it better than that the TBs sounds more processed/less natural. In this case in a good way. Added a certain bite that I felt the others lacked. Wouldn't use it for natural, 'organic' stuff, let's say classical music or naturally recorded jazz.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 8, 2014 9:14:33 GMT -6
Indeed u did tell me that, just forgot,... 8/
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Post by rocinante on May 28, 2014 8:37:49 GMT -6
Thesee are now definitely on my list. Well after this endorsement they are. Can anyone compare them to capi or the originals?
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Post by svart on May 28, 2014 9:36:51 GMT -6
Seems a little high priced for not coming with opamps or transformer and still being a kit.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 28, 2014 9:52:46 GMT -6
Seems a little high priced for not coming with opamps or transformer and still being a kit. It's another flavor with costs right in line(a little higher) with other "no brainer" kits, classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_117_119_171I will be building some soon, the lc53a's i have are amazing and totally worth 3 times the $ imv, and prefer them over the original API's i've used(many times). $450+ some of my time for a precisely laid out kit of a spitting image 550A is a steal imv. |
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Post by svart on May 28, 2014 10:10:16 GMT -6
Seems a little high priced for not coming with opamps or transformer and still being a kit. It's another flavor with costs right in line(a little higher) with other "no brainer" kits, classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_117_119_171I will be building some soon, the lc53a's i have are amazing and totally worth 3 times the $ imv, and prefer them over the original API's i've used(many times). $450+ some of my time for a precisely laid out kit of a spitting image 550A is a steal imv. I dunno. 425+45(transformer and shipping)+ 80(two opamps)+ 15$ shipping = 565$. I could do the CAPI one 415$ +35 (opamps) + 15 shipping = 465$.. 100$ savings is nothing to sneeze at.. Besides, if either one sold them as partial kits, that would be great because I have all the R's C's and other parts I need for the most part and would probably knock another 50-75$ off the kits. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 10:42:37 GMT -6
dont' be such a debbie downer, svart. horvitz is charging what he feels is appropriate for his product, kit or not. Drip's stuff isn't exactly cheap either.... |
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Post by svart on May 28, 2014 11:05:48 GMT -6
dont' be such a debbie downer, svart. horvitz is charging what he feels is appropriate for his product, kit or not. Drip's stuff isn't exactly cheap either.... You'll notice that in a drip thread I said his stuff is overpriced too.. |
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Post by unit7 on May 28, 2014 23:30:22 GMT -6
It's another flavor with costs right in line(a little higher) with other "no brainer" kits, classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_117_119_171I will be building some soon, the lc53a's i have are amazing and totally worth 3 times the $ imv, and prefer them over the original API's i've used(many times). $450+ some of my time for a precisely laid out kit of a spitting image 550A is a steal imv. I dunno. 425+45(transformer and shipping)+ 80(two opamps)+ 15$ shipping = 565$. I could do the CAPI one 415$ +35 (opamps) + 15 shipping = 465$.. 100$ savings is nothing to sneeze at.. Besides, if either one sold them as partial kits, that would be great because I have all the R's C's and other parts I need for the most part and would probably knock another 50-75$ off the kits. My figures don't match your's as I ordered xformers ($36 each) and GAR2520 DOAs ($35 for the pair) from Jeff. Shipping to Sweden adds up quite a lot though. So you really can't order only one kit  P.S. But my days stuffing PCBs are over. I only do P2P tube designs now  D.S. |
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Post by unit7 on Jun 13, 2014 9:46:03 GMT -6
Mixing a fusion project. Or 'New Jazz' or whatever they call it these days :-). Again, compared to my Harrison eqs and TB550As are now parked on kick/snare for this project.
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Post by jfoc on Jul 16, 2014 10:12:21 GMT -6
from groupdiy... groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=47094.160"If you've been waiting for a TB550A kit, there are a VERY limited number available in the store right now. Don't wait too long!" Mine are in the mail |
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Post by ericn on Jul 17, 2014 16:58:38 GMT -6
It's another flavor with costs right in line(a little higher) with other "no brainer" kits, classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_117_119_171I will be building some soon, the lc53a's i have are amazing and totally worth 3 times the $ imv, and prefer them over the original API's i've used(many times). $450+ some of my time for a precisely laid out kit of a spitting image 550A is a steal imv. I dunno. 425+45(transformer and shipping)+ 80(two opamps)+ 15$ shipping = 565$. I could do the CAPI one 415$ +35 (opamps) + 15 shipping = 465$.. 100$ savings is nothing to sneeze at.. Besides, if either one sold them as partial kits, that would be great because I have all the R's C's and other parts I need for the most part and would probably knock another 50-75$ off the kits. This is the problem with DIY from a vendor point of view. Do you supply just the propriety parts ? Or do you sell a full kit? You can't make everybody happy! I don't think anybody is really makeing any money on these GroupDIY projects and the biggest cost to anybody who is makeing a board or kit is the cost of Using there cash to finance these endeavors . I have seen some that might seam high priced to me, but my gut tells me many of these guys are financing their inventory on a VISA or MASTERCARD! DIY isn't about a low cost solution it's about the pride of I made this! |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 17, 2014 17:52:55 GMT -6
I dunno. 425+45(transformer and shipping)+ 80(two opamps)+ 15$ shipping = 565$. I could do the CAPI one 415$ +35 (opamps) + 15 shipping = 465$.. 100$ savings is nothing to sneeze at.. Besides, if either one sold them as partial kits, that would be great because I have all the R's C's and other parts I need for the most part and would probably knock another 50-75$ off the kits. This is the problem with DIY from a vendor point of view. Do you supply just the propriety parts ? Or do you sell a full kit? You can't make everybody happy! I don't think anybody is really makeing any money on these GroupDIY projects and the biggest cost to anybody who is makeing a board or kit is the cost of Using there cash to finance these endeavors . I have seen some that might seam high priced to me, but my gut tells me many of these guys are financing their inventory on a VISA or MASTERCARD! DIY isn't about a low cost solution it's about the pride of I made this! Different eq's too. |
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Post by unit7 on Apr 24, 2015 14:40:43 GMT -6
I continue my 'endorsement' for this baby, and also the LC53A. A few weeks ago I did a free mix for a good friend, as a tryout for an unsigned project. The most complex mix I've ever done. Worked for more than three full days. Kind of Grace Jones'ish production which called for a lot of action and fun stuff. A lot of time went to testing my gear that I haven't really put thru the paces.. Again I prefer the TBs on Kick/Snare/Rimshot, but think they smear a tad too much on distorted electric guitar where the LCs worked better, so I guess I'm gradually finding my 'Go To's', which feels great. Used the Hairball rev A on snare, like many suggest, and wow! I'm sure it doesn't sound like an original but that's another story. Hairball rev D on lead vocal feeding the AnalogueTube AT101, yummy! Also got time to try other stuff: Culture Vulture on Drum parallel (fed by drum paralel compressor - Chandler Zener), Culture Vulture #2 on lead vocal parallel. And finally confirmed old favorites: BAE 10DC on kick, Zener on Drum room, Purple MC77->AT101 on bass, ADL 1500s on backing vocals and SHMC on parallel mix bus, and finally AT101->Pultec on the 2 bus. Quite expensive for a free mix  End of bragging. I'll talk to my buddy and ask if he'll allow me to link to a snippet, to see what you guys think. jfoc, did you build one? What's your impression? Edit: Got permission from the producer/writer to post the mix mentioned above, but put it here instead: realgearonline.com/thread/3215/cool-project-fun-mix |
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Post by EmRR on Apr 24, 2015 20:29:20 GMT -6
I have a pair of TB550A's and a pair of LC53A's, both with GAR's in them. They sound very different. I like them both. I'd never put program material through the LC53a's unless it needed real softening and smearing in the bottom end. The TB550A's always win any test of full frequency clarity to me. The LC53a's are generally going to win on guitars and vocals, and I agree they sound more focused and less smeared in that sort of band-limited capacity. Somewhat contradictory on the surface. I'd be happy with two more pairs of them, time/$/availabiilty allowing. Price comparison: I'll just guess CAPI maybe has a little more turnover to get overhead down.
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Post by dandeurloo on Apr 24, 2015 21:01:04 GMT -6
I am finally finishing up a pair of these. I would have been done had I not made the stupidest DIY mistake in years. SO, hopefully I will get these in action soon. I am looking for something tighter and more how EmRR described. I have the LC's and they are great at softening things. I love the highend on the LC's but need something different for other things.
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Post by unit7 on Apr 25, 2015 1:49:16 GMT -6
Interesting to hear your impressions EmRR. Thanks again for your tip about removing the couple of caps that make the filter HPF only. Did that on all mine. I guess I haven't really analyzed my findings and I don't have the measuring equipment that you have Doug, I have just noticed that I really dig the TB on kick, and Brian also said that's one of the most common applications that his clients appreciate. But besides frequency response I sense that the TB does something with transients that I alwys seem to like on kick and sometimes snare. I could be wrong but I don't think I hear that on the LCs. And great to hear that your's will be ready soon dandeurloo. After reading your posts thru the years I get the feeling you really have golden ears, so it'll be interesting to hear your impressions. I agree that the high end on the LCs is really nice. To me, that is where the most obvious difference is to the TBs. I think the latter sounds more processed in the high end. Very cool sometimes. |
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Post by EmRR on Apr 25, 2015 8:32:02 GMT -6
Be good to hear Dan's impressions.
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). Compared the eq on my desk (Harrison), LC53As and the TB550, and winner was the TBs. Used on BD, SD and OHs with some pretty heavy boosting. Feeling some DIY luuuve here!
Thanks so much.
D.S.
End of bragging. I'll talk to my buddy and ask if he'll allow me to link to a snippet, to see what you guys think.
