Mix it like Vinyl..........But it sounds like a Demo ??

I don't think vinyl is all that good.

I think people like the density of the mix on vinyl. It's usually well balanced yet rolled off. Most people that I know that espouse vinyl as the best usually have some hearing loss on the high frequencies, which seem to fit the vinyl frequency profile.

Besides, if you spend all day listening to vinyl, then yes, other mediums will seem like they have too much high frequency content.

Recordings from the vinyl era tend to sound better because performances from the vinyl era were better.

And whilst we have re-kindled the love affair with vinyl, we have done nothing to get back to the performance level of the original vinyl era.

In and of itself, the vinyl sound is rubbish. The format is not where the sound came from, that was from the performances.

People are used to where they set the volume knob on the stereo for different formats. If it seems off, they think something is wrong rather than adjusting to taste. Like it's an ice machine or something.

I generally like my car volume at 32. If my mixes don't sound good at 32, it's back to the drawing board. Haha

You'll also find that the non-trend following vinyl lovers are generally older folks from the vinyl era.

You know what else they like from that era?

Bands from that era.

Why? Because they've proven that folks generally form their favorite objects/items/music and such from the period around adolescence. That's why you always hear about "the good old days" whenever you talk to older people.

I stoped thinking like this because technology moves on and digital gives me the freedom to mix it like I hear it.
I like to know what people like about to not live here and now.
The fiture is in front of you.

If I really like a record, I want the highest quality file I can get, which is frequently the CD.....if it can even be had.  I listen to most things on the studio monitors, and the difference is apparent.   

Thats why I started this thread . Is it the actual medium thats better ? Or....is it that its Mastered and even mixed differently than the Digital version ........and maybe the majority of people that prefer Vinyl is simply because they don't like the usual Mastering or Mix style engineers use to make Digital recordings .

Is there even an apples to apples , exact CD and Vinyl release that use the same mix and Mastering process ??

Because every comparison I've heard the CD is much brighter and louder .

Former SOTA /Audio Research/ Magnepan owner, Vinyl isn't better its compromises are different . Vinyl is the sonic reference many of us grew up hearing and probably formed our sonic expectations.
Vinyl is a ritualistic experience, vinyl is about the long play not the short, it's about the heyday of the music biz. It is not some magic elixir that can repair a bad digital recording, that is an emotional response to the experience and yes emotion is an integral part of any musical experience, we have to seperate that.
I'll wager and having recently experienced way to many " high quality " reissues that suffer from sources that have suffered at the hands of time and the promised savior of modern DSP I'll argue it's far from the best of both worlds it's for the most part the worst sonic wise, but the experience is grand !

Idk, Sounds like you need to go direct from vinyl from logic Pro from here on out to achieve the sonic wizardry you love 😀😃

I don't think you've ever heard fresh, well mastered and pressed vinyl played over a high quality system. If you think that "Vinyl is too muddy and missing too much highs" that leads me to beieve that you're listening to worn out records, most likely with a misaligned turntable. Vinyl records wear fairly quickly unless great care is taken with the playback system and the first thing to go is the high end. DJ systems (and DJs) in particular are very hard on vinyl because of the relatively high tracking force required to keep the needle in the groove and the amount of abuse that the records, needle, cartridge, and arm are subjected to on a routine basis.

Why do people prefer vinyl to digital? Because for whatever reason, vinyl is, all other things being equal, a better sounding format. I don't care what the "specs" say. This is a clear cut case of "specs" not telling the whole story. Perhaps the wrong things are being measured. Perhaps the right things are being overlooked. Perhaps things are not being interpreted properly. Maybe it is a simple as that the common processes used in mastering of new digital product often suck or that current mastering is unduly infuenced by people in a financially powerful position who have lots of preconceptions but no ear. (I personally tend to believe that the latter has a lot to do with it.)

Why do people love oil paintings? Why even when there have been vastly "superior" graphics technologies available to every kid with a phone and a computer do people still pay thousands, even millions of dollars for pictures that, when you get down to it, really don't look all that much like the things they represent, have poor color rendition, and for the most part don't have particularly great detail?

I submit that people love vinyl because at the end of the day it's a more aesthetically pleasing audio format. And you can't measure that with a meter on your computer.

And these musings about why older people prefer what they do are out to lunch. Yes, it's true that much of the music I listen to is from an earlier era. But you know something? The vast majority of what I listen to now is stuff I HATED when I was young*. Sure, I still like a lot of the stuff I did when I was younger - but I don't listen to it much. In fact, I hear that music being played and listened to a lot by younger people. Why would that be? Perhaps it's because the appeal of good music is universal? And there's relatively little of it being distributed commercially now?

I guess I'm in the minority in that I never purchase digital downloads unless it's something I really want that I'm unable to find otherwise - for the most part I buy CDs - they play in the car. Generally when I buy music I want something physical that I can hold in my hands and look at. I intensely dislike the singles format and the current commercial trend in that direction. Many of my best loved songs have been B sides and album cuts. I can think of many promoted A sides that were not representative of the band or artist.


* - after starting as a "folkie" when I was about 12 (after being into rock and roll as a real little kid in the '50s) I went on to spend the majority of my life doing various types of rock and blues**. I NEVER listened to country music back then - it was on the other side of the "great cultural divide" Now it's almost all I play and pretty much the only thing I pay for on the juke box at the local bar.

** - in rough chronological order -  (60s) folk, blues, surf, British Invasion, folk rock, pyschedlic, blues, "classic R&B", a little jazz (70s) blues, hard rock, blues rock, a little reggae, "classic" punk rock, garage rock, punky rockabilly, "classic" metal, "New Wave", "Experimental" (80s) Punk rock, new wave, "classic" metal, "New Wave of Heavy Metal", (90s) various "metal" variants, post-punk, blues, "classic" punk (00-07) "classic" punk, "classic" metal, blues, '60s garage, occasional reggae, occasional country (07- 10) garage rock, blues, occasional reggae, occasional "classic" R&B, country (10s) country. Sometimes I'll go sing at a blues jam. I still enjoy most of the stuff I listened to in earlier periods but I hardly ever put it on myself, except for the occasional punk, blues, or very miscellaneous other tunes.

So how does a young rocker end up as an old guy listening to Hank Thompson, Patsy Cline, and Jim Reeves? According to the "conventional wisdom" I should spend all my time listening to The Stones, The Yardbirds, BOC, The Ramones, Sabbath, and Motorhead with the occasional Solomon Burke, Desmond Dekker, Howlin' Wolf, and Byrds thrown in. What Happened?

If its on vinyl itll be played on something that is probably better than computer speakers.