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Post by mrholmes on Apr 30, 2017 12:15:14 GMT -6
Is it possible that some mics do not sound good in a different tracking room?
Sounds stupid but it seems that happened to me today...
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Post by jeremygillespie on Apr 30, 2017 12:54:09 GMT -6
I think it has little to do with a mic not sounding good, and everything to do with the instrument not sounding good in the room or in the placement of the room.
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Post by terryrocks on Apr 30, 2017 13:28:17 GMT -6
Polar pattern and placement are almost as important as the player and room.
My bass rig sounds good in my basement, but it is a nightmare to record down there. After a few years, i just gave up and decided to di all bass and reamp upstairs (wood floors, more spatial volume).
Now that I think about it, if I want to track it in the bassment, I should consider piling up some absorbers around the cabinet.
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 30, 2017 15:31:18 GMT -6
Polar pattern definitely has a lot to do it. Especially if you have some less than flattering room reflections.
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Post by Ward on Apr 30, 2017 17:31:52 GMT -6
The source.
Then the room
Then the microphone
Then the Preamp
Then the compressor
Then the EQ
Then the converter.
The n the platform.
Priorities firmly in order./
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Post by ericn on Apr 30, 2017 18:38:09 GMT -6
The source. Then the room Then the microphone Then the Preamp Then the compressor Then the EQ Then the converter. The n the platform. Priorities firmly in order./ You forgot a biggie The song! |
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 30, 2017 19:39:34 GMT -6
The source. Then the room Then the microphone Then the Preamp Then the compressor Then the EQ Then the converter. The n the platform. Priorities firmly in order./ You forgot a biggie The song! My fault yeah we talk power fingerpicking blues with a lot of string and fret noise. My usal suspects UMT or KM 184 did work the way I suspected them to do....in the end I took a dynanic one and everything went with artifical verb.... I have no idea what went wrong normaly I can say three feet away poiting at 12-14 fret is doing it fairly good but for this kind of dirty picking ..... nope.... |
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Post by guitfiddler on Apr 30, 2017 19:52:00 GMT -6
The source. Then the room Then the microphone Then the Preamp Then the compressor Then the EQ Then the converter. The n the platform. Priorities firmly in order./ You forgot a biggie The song! Lol...forgot to plug in the sustain pedal on the keyboard. After the performance the artist says to me, I just thought it was a demo so I didn't say anything. lol, it was just a trial run and I tracked it and it was an excellent performance. I noticed it during, but just couldn't stop it, it was sounding too good! |
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Post by aamicrophones on Apr 30, 2017 20:51:32 GMT -6
Is it possible that some mics do not sound good in a different tracking room? Sounds stupid but it seems that happened to me today... Absolutely, for example the K67/87 capsule in the U87 has an anomaly. In Cardiod the rear rejection is about -20db from 100hz to 2khz except for 400hz and 800hz which are only -10db at 5khz. By 100hz the rear response start to drop and is down only -10db at 25hz and the rejection start to drop past 2khz and is down if you use them in a live room with lots of reflection getting to the rear of the microphone then 400hz and 800hz the "honky/nasal" frequencies will be more pronounced. The U87 is a microphone bodes well with a reflection screen as it can greatly improve the sound when used in rooms with lots of reflection coming back to the microphone. Our friend Joe Carrell in Nashville likes to use them over drums and re-called that in two tracking room in Nashville there seemed to be more midrange 'honk' both these rooms had low ceiling while in studio with higher ceilings they sounded much better. In our AK67 capsule which has more holes drilled in the back-plate than the K67/k87 the rear rejection is -18db at 400hz and -17db at 800hz on average. Now, this is where mike placement and placement of the instrument in the room can make a big difference to final sound. Cheers, Dave aamicrophones.com Cheers, Dave |
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 30, 2017 23:19:33 GMT -6
I was going to say something about the U87 too. I love my U87ai in a big room with a live sound. I think it sounds incredible. I don't particularly love it in a smaller dead room. I did a recording in a church that I loved.
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