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Post by wiz on Mar 25, 2017 16:15:36 GMT -6
Dry Drums with ZuluI thought you guys might like to hear the Zulu, just on drums.. I tracked this yesterday, the ZULU is on KICK and SNARE during my reamp phase. So this is drums tracked straight from preamp to MOTU 16A into logic I then run Sound Radix Drum Leveller on the kick snare and toms (which takes care of some of my inconsistency and gating duties) Then the tracks get sent out to my Delta, EQ'd, Kick and Snare through Zulu then into Comps, other tracks go through comps as well, then back into Logic No other processing ITB just mixed down Sounds good to me... 8) cheers Wiz
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Post by deehope on Mar 25, 2017 16:59:35 GMT -6
This is my exact plan until I can afford 8 channels wOrth. Awesome to know it works... thanks for this.. I always tell Langston ur my hero lmao the anti gearslut lol
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Post by wiz on Mar 25, 2017 17:11:32 GMT -6
This is my exact plan until I can afford 8 channels wOrth. Awesome to know it works... thanks for this.. I always tell Langston ur my hero lmao the anti gearslut lol Thanks for checking it out deehopecheers Wiz |
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Post by illacov on Mar 26, 2017 10:51:21 GMT -6
Dry Drums with ZuluI thought you guys might like to hear the Zulu, just on drums.. I tracked this yesterday, the ZULU is on KICK and SNARE during my reamp phase. So this is drums tracked straight from preamp to MOTU 16A into logic I then run Sound Radix Drum Leveller on the kick snare and toms (which takes care of some of my inconsistency and gating duties) Then the tracks get sent out to my Delta, EQ'd, Kick and Snare through Zulu then into Comps, other tracks go through comps as well, then back into Logic No other processing ITB just mixed down Sounds good to me... 8) cheers Wiz Amazing at what Zulu on just kick and snare will do for a drum mix. Tapey as hell. Try it on all the drums man. Just heard Zulu with a Tubetech mic pre following it. Almost fell over at how sick it sounded. Thanks -L. |
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Post by wiz on Mar 26, 2017 15:32:59 GMT -6
Dry Drums with ZuluI thought you guys might like to hear the Zulu, just on drums.. I tracked this yesterday, the ZULU is on KICK and SNARE during my reamp phase. So this is drums tracked straight from preamp to MOTU 16A into logic I then run Sound Radix Drum Leveller on the kick snare and toms (which takes care of some of my inconsistency and gating duties) Then the tracks get sent out to my Delta, EQ'd, Kick and Snare through Zulu then into Comps, other tracks go through comps as well, then back into Logic No other processing ITB just mixed down Sounds good to me... 8) cheers Wiz Amazing at what Zulu on just kick and snare will do for a drum mix. Tapey as hell. Try it on all the drums man. Just heard Zulu with a Tubetech mic pre following it. Almost fell over at how sick it sounded. Thanks -L. Hey Langston thanks for checking it out... I would need more zulu's...I do my drum reamping in one pass, you can send me another pair...8) I only need 6 channels.... LOL cheers Wiz |
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Post by illacov on Mar 27, 2017 0:40:01 GMT -6
Amazing at what Zulu on just kick and snare will do for a drum mix. Tapey as hell. Try it on all the drums man. Just heard Zulu with a Tubetech mic pre following it. Almost fell over at how sick it sounded. Thanks -L. Hey Langston thanks for checking it out... I would need more zulu's...I do my drum reamping in one pass, you can send me another pair...8) I only need 6 channels.... LOL cheers Wiz I hear so much tasty splat. Harmonic over wash is what I hear. Thanks -L. |
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Post by lcr on Mar 27, 2017 8:21:17 GMT -6
Dry Drums with ZuluI thought you guys might like to hear the Zulu, just on drums.. I tracked this yesterday, the ZULU is on KICK and SNARE during my reamp phase. So this is drums tracked straight from preamp to MOTU 16A into logic I then run Sound Radix Drum Leveller on the kick snare and toms (which takes care of some of my inconsistency and gating duties) Then the tracks get sent out to my Delta, EQ'd, Kick and Snare through Zulu then into Comps, other tracks go through comps as well, then back into Logic No other processing ITB just mixed down Sounds good to me... 8) cheers Wiz Wiz, I know your sessions are low track count, do you run the entire mix out thru your delta at once? 16 channels at once? |
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Post by javamad on Mar 27, 2017 13:57:35 GMT -6
Nice. I like what it is doing to the snare transient. The cymbals sound lovely too.
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Post by wiz on Mar 27, 2017 14:58:49 GMT -6
Dry Drums with ZuluI thought you guys might like to hear the Zulu, just on drums.. I tracked this yesterday, the ZULU is on KICK and SNARE during my reamp phase. So this is drums tracked straight from preamp to MOTU 16A into logic I then run Sound Radix Drum Leveller on the kick snare and toms (which takes care of some of my inconsistency and gating duties) Then the tracks get sent out to my Delta, EQ'd, Kick and Snare through Zulu then into Comps, other tracks go through comps as well, then back into Logic No other processing ITB just mixed down Sounds good to me... 8) cheers Wiz Wiz, I know your sessions are low track count, do you run the entire mix out thru your delta at once? 16 channels at once? Hi lcrthanks for checking it out. No, I dont usually do that many at once... Here is how it normally goes. 1) I track a guide acoustic guitar part, this gets discarded after the next step. 2) I track drums 2a) since getting zulu, I now reamp the drums at this point, with zulu on kick and snare, before zulu I would keep on below 3) I track bass 4) I track rhythm guitar part 5) now I reamp those two elements out (including zulu) 6) cut vocal part 7) cut second rhythm guitar part (last time, I tracked this through zulu) 8) reamp those two elements (including zulu,if not tracked with it) So at this point, its up for grabs, usually backing vocals, then guitar solo, then what ever else is needed. If I had more channels of zulu, I would use them on the overheads at the reamp stage. Remember that I only use 6 channels of drums, kick, snare, floor tom, rack tom, overhead left, overhead right. The overheads on the above track, have a apex 320A compeller (modded by revive audio) on them, and the delta EQ... cheers Wiz |
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Post by wiz on Mar 27, 2017 14:59:35 GMT -6
Nice. I like what it is doing to the snare transient. The cymbals sound lovely too. Hey javamadthanks for checking it out. See my comments about the overheads above... cheers Wiz |
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Post by illacov on Mar 28, 2017 14:55:51 GMT -6
Wiz, I know your sessions are low track count, do you run the entire mix out thru your delta at once? 16 channels at once? Hi lcrthanks for checking it out. No, I dont usually do that many at once... Here is how it normally goes. 1) I track a guide acoustic guitar part, this gets discarded after the next step. 2) I track drums 2a) since getting zulu, I now reamp the drums at this point, with zulu on kick and snare, before zulu I would keep on below 3) I track bass 4) I track rhythm guitar part 5) now I reamp those two elements out (including zulu) 6) cut vocal part 7) cut second rhythm guitar part (last time, I tracked this through zulu) 8) reamp those two elements (including zulu,if not tracked with it) So at this point, its up for grabs, usually backing vocals, then guitar solo, then what ever else is needed. If I had more channels of zulu, I would use them on the overheads at the reamp stage. Remember that I only use 6 channels of drums, kick, snare, floor tom, rack tom, overhead left, overhead right. The overheads on the above track, have a apex 320A compeller (modded by revive audio) on them, and the delta EQ... cheers Wiz Can't hurt to try printing an old school 4 track drum bus thru Zulu during reamp. It will still work in parallel to the dry tracks. Or just use it as it is after you print! If you wants more channels please don't fail to contact me. Thanks -L. |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 28, 2017 15:50:49 GMT -6
Dry Drums with ZuluI thought you guys might like to hear the Zulu, just on drums.. I tracked this yesterday, the ZULU is on KICK and SNARE during my reamp phase. So this is drums tracked straight from preamp to MOTU 16A into logic I then run Sound Radix Drum Leveller on the kick snare and toms (which takes care of some of my inconsistency and gating duties) Then the tracks get sent out to my Delta, EQ'd, Kick and Snare through Zulu then into Comps, other tracks go through comps as well, then back into Logic No other processing ITB just mixed down Sounds good to me... 8) cheers Wiz Would be interesting to hear the drums, just with and without Zulu. Going in, not reamped. Otherwise can't tell what the Zulu is doing. |
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Post by wiz on Mar 28, 2017 15:58:33 GMT -6
Dry Drums with ZuluI thought you guys might like to hear the Zulu, just on drums.. I tracked this yesterday, the ZULU is on KICK and SNARE during my reamp phase. So this is drums tracked straight from preamp to MOTU 16A into logic I then run Sound Radix Drum Leveller on the kick snare and toms (which takes care of some of my inconsistency and gating duties) Then the tracks get sent out to my Delta, EQ'd, Kick and Snare through Zulu then into Comps, other tracks go through comps as well, then back into Logic No other processing ITB just mixed down Sounds good to me... 8) cheers Wiz Would be interesting to hear the drums, just with and without Zulu. Going in, not reamped. Otherwise can't tell what the Zulu is doing. Hi John yes, that would be interesting. I did post a full mix done with and without the zulu the other day, hope you checked that one out. I will see if I can do this next time I am doing something. cheers Wiz |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 28, 2017 20:56:49 GMT -6
Would be interesting to hear the drums, just with and without Zulu. Going in, not reamped. Otherwise can't tell what the Zulu is doing. Hi John yes, that would be interesting. I did post a full mix done with and without the zulu the other day, hope you checked that one out. I will see if I can do this next time I am doing something. cheers Wiz Well, actually no, I didn't. It's not really relevant to me. I'm interested in seeing if it might replace my 24 track Studer during tracking, I'm not particularly interested in what it does to tracks already mangled by digital conversion. We're tracking to tape, then transferring to digital. Tape is getting expensive, so I'm considering alternatives. Tape is a medium, not an effect. I'm looking for something that does a reasonable job of duplicating that medium. |
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Post by veggieryan on Mar 30, 2017 3:46:45 GMT -6
Hi John yes, that would be interesting. I did post a full mix done with and without the zulu the other day, hope you checked that one out. I will see if I can do this next time I am doing something. cheers Wiz Well, actually no, I didn't. It's not really relevant to me. I'm interested in seeing if it might replace my 24 track Studer during tracking, I'm not particularly interested in what it does to tracks already mangled by digital conversion. We're tracking to tape, then transferring to digital. Tape is getting expensive, so I'm considering alternatives. Tape is a medium, not an effect. I'm looking for something that does a reasonable job of duplicating that medium. To John's point, I actually think the gain reduction and compression effects when tracking are the greatest strength of the Zulu. One of the biggest differences in tracking between tape and even the best digital converters is the reaction to pushing the headroom. Put simply, when tracking with Zulu I can run my preamps hotter which puts me more in their "sweet spot" more consistently. Zulu then compresses the signal and drops the gain so that there is far less chance I clip my AD on the way in. The saturation and eq effects of Zulu are great but the real magic for me happens on the headroom portion of the unit. Zulu is a unique compressor in that you have to think about your gain staging a little differently but it seems to have a very natural, soothing and tape like compression. One of the reasons it does what we wish tape plugins would do is because it is happening pre-conversion in the analog realm. Very important as John has noted in the past. I am currently tracking into my JCF AD8 with the calibration set to +4dBu = -13dBFS instead of the factory +4dBu=-18dBFS and I like the results for the mainly acoustic music I do. Even with this reduced attenuation on the AD I still have to add some gain ITB but hey, that's what having 24 bits of headroom is for, right? My current favorite path is 2 Mics -> 2 NPNG blueface -> 2 Zulu -> JCF AD8. I also have a Zulu on the output of my Bustard summing mixer going back into my JCF AD8 with the same higher gain calibration. It also sounds great going into a nice tube compressor for the makeup gain. Zulu is giving me the best tone I have ever gotten in my mixes by far. It really feels like you are having your cake and eating it to. I would love to hear what John has to say after trying one since he seems to be very discerning. I seem to be noticing reduced ear fatigue as well which is just great. |
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