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Post by sozocaps on Feb 14, 2017 18:18:25 GMT -6
Done deal, Heard it from a birddy... Will run in standalone with new software update for us that do not have Thunderbolt... I could be hooking it up to my RayDat via ADAT. hmmm
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Post by sozocaps on Feb 14, 2017 21:02:25 GMT -6
Just saying... Looking inside the MK2 modules is amazing... TOP notch chips AKM "VERITA" AKxxxEQ and ESS SABRE32 Reference 32-bit DAC super up to date.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 14, 2017 21:28:28 GMT -6
The SMkII is the new interface de jure at RGO. What were the new chips you were talking about that were coming out?
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Post by ericn on Feb 14, 2017 21:37:03 GMT -6
The SMkII is the new interface de jure at RGO. What were the new chips you were talking about that were coming out? I feel so out of fashion!😪 Wait I'm a lone wolf I feel special again👘 |
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Post by veggieryan on Feb 14, 2017 21:37:09 GMT -6
Good news. I use my MK1 Symphonies in standalone mode with a Motu AVB 112D and its been a revelation. Love the Motu AVB mixer and routing... lightyears ahead of Maestro.
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Post by sozocaps on Feb 14, 2017 21:42:05 GMT -6
The SMkII is the new interface de jure at RGO. What were the new chips you were talking about that were coming out? The chips are still top notch is all |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Feb 14, 2017 22:11:38 GMT -6
Good news. I use my MK1 Symphonies in standalone mode with a Motu AVB 112D and its been a revelation. Love the Motu AVB mixer and routing... lightyears ahead of Maestro. How many channels are you running via the Symphony? |
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 15, 2017 4:03:34 GMT -6
Just saying... Looking inside the MK2 modules is amazing... TOP notch chips AKM "VERITA" AKxxxEQ and ESS SABRE32 Reference 32-bit DAC super up to date. Doesn't the BF Apollo 16 MKII use the same DA chips? |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Feb 15, 2017 4:11:57 GMT -6
everyone knows its the analog stage that matters more than the chip...
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 15, 2017 7:16:41 GMT -6
everyone knows its the analog stage that matters more than the chip... Yeah, indiehouse, why are you such a Dummy??  (That was very gearslutian, Chuck) |
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Post by sozocaps on Feb 15, 2017 9:03:02 GMT -6
everyone knows its the analog stage that matters more than the chip... Yeah, indiehouse , why are you such a Dummy?? (That was very gearslutian, Chuck) Apogee typically does and has always had a better analog section which was better then most. That being said the new Lynx and Merging keep me wondering though. |
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Post by veggieryan on Feb 15, 2017 13:31:55 GMT -6
Good news. I use my MK1 Symphonies in standalone mode with a Motu AVB 112D and its been a revelation. Love the Motu AVB mixer and routing... lightyears ahead of Maestro. How many channels are you running via the Symphony? I run 8 in and 24 out on the Symphonies, 8 AD in from my JCF AD8 and 8x8 ADAT on my Blackface Apollo all on the 112D and its rock solid so far. Better latency and CPU performance than the Apollo thunderbolt or Thunderbridge, truly unlimited routing and a mixer that you can control via an ipad... I'm loving it. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 15, 2017 13:35:00 GMT -6
As someone who has been running tbolt pci-e for 3 years plus what exactly does "stand alone " mean ? How does the interface talk to the computer/daw ?
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Feb 15, 2017 13:47:34 GMT -6
It'll talk via lightpipe (ADAT) most likely
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Post by swurveman on Feb 15, 2017 14:01:09 GMT -6
The SMkII is the new interface de jure at RGO. What were the new chips you were talking about that were coming out? Except for us PC owners.... |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Feb 15, 2017 14:11:50 GMT -6
The SMkII is the new interface de jure at RGO. What were the new chips you were talking about that were coming out? Except for us PC owners.... You'll be able to if your interface has ADAT ports. |
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Post by sozocaps on Feb 15, 2017 16:37:01 GMT -6
Except for us PC owners.... You'll be able to if your interface has ADAT ports. Correct instead of strictly TB or HD |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 15, 2017 16:40:56 GMT -6
So, it just adds another way of communicating digitally ?
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Post by swurveman on Feb 15, 2017 17:27:04 GMT -6
You'll be able to if your interface has ADAT ports. Correct instead of strictly TB or HD It gets better: I asked Apogee about Symphony and my PC. This was their response: I wasn't expecting to be able to keep my RME AES32 cards. It will be interesting to see what the cost will be. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 15, 2017 17:38:50 GMT -6
The SMkII is the new interface de jure at RGO. What were the new chips you were talking about that were coming out? They are 8 ch AKM chip in the Slate interface ( also in merging ( for sure ) and dad I believe ) which has higher specs when ran in an 8 channel configuration. Also there is such thing as an ESS sabre 32 ADC chip but you hear people rave over the DA more for some reason. Yes RGO members love their Symphonies ( you should 😂 ) |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 15, 2017 17:50:15 GMT -6
How many channels are you running via the Symphony? I run 8 in and 24 out on the Symphonies, 8 AD in from my JCF AD8 and 8x8 ADAT on my Blackface Apollo all on the 112D and its rock solid so far. Better latency and CPU performance than the Apollo thunderbolt or Thunderbridge, truly unlimited routing and a mixer that you can control via an ipad... I'm loving it. Do you mix analog console or hybrid? What genres of music? If the Symphony is that great why a JCF? The JCF is very expensive for converters, I know it has ampex tape amps or something and a PEP stage however wouldn't tone and color be achieved through a HW color tone box ( Hg 2 )or HW chain if color is what you are pursuing or does the JCF enable a tape like capture off the console without tape? |
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Post by veggieryan on Feb 15, 2017 18:45:34 GMT -6
I run 8 in and 24 out on the Symphonies, 8 AD in from my JCF AD8 and 8x8 ADAT on my Blackface Apollo all on the 112D and its rock solid so far. Better latency and CPU performance than the Apollo thunderbolt or Thunderbridge, truly unlimited routing and a mixer that you can control via an ipad... I'm loving it. Do you mix analog console or hybrid? What genres of music? If the Symphony is that great why a JCF? The JCF is very expensive for converters, I know it has ampex tape amps or something and a PEP stage however wouldn't tone and color be achieved through a HW color tone box ( Hg 2 )or HW chain if color is what you are pursuing or does the JCF enable a tape like capture off the console without tape? I use the Apogee DA into my Thermionic Culture Fat Bustard II LE summing mixer. I do mostly folk, indie and rock style music. The JCF AD8 is very expensive but worth every penny I think. It does sound very much like tape (without the hiss, wow or flutter) and it is a noticeable step up from the Symphony which is already quite good. It's the only AD converter I have heard that seems to round the edges or smooth the transients like tape does. To put it another way: when tracking vocals with the JCF I don't have to immediately reach for plugins like bx_refinement or Oeksound Soothe to "fix" harshness like I do with other converters. You can read the reviews and threads on the JCF AD8 and it's pretty unanimous that it's something special. I have become a huge fan of PEP... It's really helping me sleep at night and not constantly dream and fret about going back to a tape machine.  |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Feb 16, 2017 0:30:39 GMT -6
How do you capture the output of your DA so that everyone else can hear what you're hearing when you release a mix?
Edit: oh, I see that the jcf is your a-d, so you're piping the symphony output thru it when you print a mix?
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Post by veggieryan on Feb 16, 2017 0:49:46 GMT -6
How do you capture the output of your DA so that everyone else can hear what you're hearing when you release a mix? Edit: oh, I see that the jcf is your a-d, so you're piping the symphony output thru it when you print a mix? Yes, I track through the JCF in A/D PEP mode but that has a big "delay" for the PEP processing so I split the signal from my preamps and use the Symphony AD for headphone cue mixes... Then I use Voxengo latency delay to re-align the tracks... At 96khz samplerate PEP takes 6,147 samples to work its mojo. On mix down I sum the Symphony DA into the Fat Bustard then to my Hanks 660 pair for tube compression and feed it to the JCF A/D PEP. I do like what PEP does on tracking AND mixdown. Things tend to sound right without much need for fiddling. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 16, 2017 2:09:55 GMT -6
How do you capture the output of your DA so that everyone else can hear what you're hearing when you release a mix? Edit: oh, I see that the jcf is your a-d, so you're piping the symphony output thru it when you print a mix? Yes, I track through the JCF in A/D PEP mode but that has a big "delay" for the PEP processing so I split the signal from my preamps and use the Symphony AD for headphone cue mixes... Then I use Voxengo latency delay to re-align the tracks... At 96khz samplerate PEP takes 6,147 samples to work its mojo. On mix down I sum the Symphony DA into the Fat Bustard then to my Hanks 660 pair for tube compression and feed it to the JCF A/D PEP. I do like what PEP does on tracking AND mixdown. Things tend to sound right without much need for fiddling. Thanks for the in depth answer 😀That's a Big boy setup. I like that the gear you choose enables you to have an efficient workflow and vast improvements. I hope I don't have to get into that $ territory to achieve the results I desire or what I hear in my head lol. That is the type of gear investments I seek and like to make. Do the symphony and JCF ever have phase issues when recording of is the voxengo that precise. I was always told to keep the instruments mics thru the same converter, meaning if I have 8 drum mics don't put 6 thru the Apollo and 2 thru a Hilo 😆 |
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