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Post by scumbum on Jan 29, 2017 16:10:30 GMT -6
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Post by scumbum on Jan 29, 2017 16:18:11 GMT -6
Ok , after quick search I found Jeff has a 1976 API model 3232 console . So I'm guessing the VP26 is based on the 3232 mic pre .
So whats the difference between the two consoles ? 3232 VS 3288 ?
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Post by jsteiger on Jan 29, 2017 16:44:15 GMT -6
So whats the difference between the two consoles ? 3232 VS 3288 ? To my knowledge (I could be wrong) there was never actually a model 3288. I think its a bit of a misnomer. They made a 2488 which was 24 input channels and typically 8 subgroups. The 32 input desks were of the same lineage as the 2488 but the model # of my doc set is 3232. I think that stood for 32 input channels and 32 monitor returns. My desk has 16 subgroups. Either way, the input channel cards were the same just populated a little differently mainly regarding the switches used and such. Bottom line, unless the desk has been modded (which is often the case) the 1604, 2488 and 3232 were all based on the same circuitry just with a few different features. |
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Post by jsteiger on Jan 29, 2017 16:51:07 GMT -6
They also did a lot of custom things with different features and stuff. The old remote truck desk at HOB Studio D is a good example. I think Gary said its a 1978. The input channels are similar to mine except there are no output transformers or direct outs. They also added a monitor path on each hannel. 24 buses all based on the same ACA cards my desk has. Scroll down the the D pics www.houseofbluesstudios.com/portfolio |
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Post by ericn on Jan 29, 2017 17:27:41 GMT -6
So whats the difference between the two consoles ? 3232 VS 3288 ? To my knowledge (I could be wrong) there was never actually a model 3288. I think its a bit of a misnomer. They made a 2488 which was 24 input channels and typically 8 subgroups. The 32 input desks were of the same lineage as the 2488 but the model # of my doc set is 3232. I think that stood for 32 input channels and 32 monitor returns. My desk has 16 subgroups. Either way, the input channel cards were the same just populated a little differently mainly regarding the switches used and such. Bottom line, unless the desk has been modded (which is often the case) the 1604, 2488 and 3232 were all based on the same circuitry just with a few different features. Amazing how many other console manufacturers did pretty much the same thing! There is the common misconception that somebody's bigger board is better, when in fact the smaller less complicated version measures better because of the simplicity! Jeff could you go into some basic detail about the mods/ improvements you made to your Desk? I know few people understand that the monitor section on the vintage API's are not the same as the input channels! |
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2017 17:43:20 GMT -6
Uh......what's a monitor section?  |
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Post by jsteiger on Jan 29, 2017 19:29:14 GMT -6
Jeff could you go into some basic detail about the mods/ improvements you made to your Desk? I know few people understand that the monitor section on the vintage API's are not the same as the input channels! The monitor side is IC based so totally different than the input channel side. Kinda lame in comparison. I'll let you know what I do if I ever get around to working on it!! LOL The shoemakers kids have no shoes.....not that I am much of a shoemaker..... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2017 19:36:42 GMT -6
You need to get that damn studio built.
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Post by ericn on Jan 29, 2017 19:43:13 GMT -6
You need to get that damn studio built. Yeah I need a reason for a road trip! |
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Post by scumbum on Jan 29, 2017 21:59:11 GMT -6
So whats the difference between the two consoles ? 3232 VS 3288 ? To my knowledge (I could be wrong) there was never actually a model 3288. I think its a bit of a misnomer. They made a 2488 which was 24 input channels and typically 8 subgroups. The 32 input desks were of the same lineage as the 2488 but the model # of my doc set is 3232. I think that stood for 32 input channels and 32 monitor returns. My desk has 16 subgroups. Either way, the input channel cards were the same just populated a little differently mainly regarding the switches used and such. Bottom line, unless the desk has been modded (which is often the case) the 1604, 2488 and 3232 were all based on the same circuitry just with a few different features. So Ramones first album was recorded February 1976 on the eighth floor of Radio City Music Hall at a studio called Plaza Sound . It says here in this interview they used a 32 input API , the first one installed in New York . titlewaveproductions.com/uploads/RobFreeman_RecordingRamones.pdfMaybe he means the first "32 input API" installed in New York and not the actual very first API console in New York . I don't know . Anyways if it was new than most likely it wasn't modified yet ?? You said "Bottom line, unless the desk has been modded (which is often the case) the 1604, 2488 and 3232 were all based on the same circuitry just with a few different features." So then the VP26 or VP28 should be pretty much what they used back then . Any idea what an API console like that today would be worth ?? |
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Post by scumbum on Feb 15, 2017 23:08:04 GMT -6
After doing close listening and comparions on stuff I've recorded with VP26's , I'm 99% sure the api console used to record The Ramones first album wasn't modified because it sounds EXACTLY like the VP26 .
I love the VP26 even more now !!! Its got that classic rock sound .
As far as the one for sale today ......its probably been modified after all these years .
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Post by roundbadge on Feb 16, 2017 1:14:55 GMT -6
Id imagine the vp 28 would be pretty close..with the output line stage and all.but vp26's friggin rock either way!
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