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Post by M57 on Dec 12, 2016 7:28:40 GMT -6
Hmm.. It seems like this could be a good thread to inspire some trades, or at least give folks some opportunities to test drive some under-used gear. Dust 'em off. All they need is a little love.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 12, 2016 8:53:43 GMT -6
635's...I'd rather make a record with nothing but those than an equivalent number of SM57's. Mine don't quite get graveyard status because they are great for club remotes when you need to just hang a mic cable over an amp because there's no room to use a stand. I did get an older EV 654A omni recently and it's been good for a number of things.
Another graveyard mic I forgot about is an Amperite lavalier ribbon. It's fun to make a drummer wear, but the joke got old.
Ward, I was thinking those MKH104's were the 6V unbalanced version usually run on batteries, I hear those are cool mics.
JohnEppstein and Gouge, yeah a Shure 300 is cool. I have one off for repair after it got knocked over. Mine more often than not lives behind the drummer (butt mic), really good for certain vocals and stringed instruments. Darker than most ribbons; that says a lot.
M57, good idea there.
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Post by ericn on Dec 12, 2016 9:12:54 GMT -6
Yeah a good AKG D202 is a great mic but getting harder and harder to find , the 3 digit AKG dynamics seam to be some of the worst constructed mics ever, way to much plastic, The 190 with its plastic rimmed gold splaterd grill makes my list. I call them the "pope mic", they can often be seen in front of his holiness, you need his prayers to keep them together. A pair of Nady LDC's bought them to use the bodies for DIY U87's but never got to it.
My countryman Lavs & Crown PCC160's don't see a lot of use, but they have their uses.
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 12, 2016 13:50:39 GMT -6
I haven't had the heart to let go of my Shure KSM44. It was my first studio microphone. I did a shoot out at Guitar Center of everything they had under $1000 and it sounded fantastic on my voice. I also did a couple of my first big projects with it (both Charlemagne albums). Ultimately it's a pretty neutral sounding mic. It doesn't have the low end of a U87 and can be a little boomy, but still a very natural sound (if a tad bright). It went in the mic locker when I got my U87AI and has only come out for a string session I did a year ago. I threw it on Viola and it did the job well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 0:17:36 GMT -6
When i think useless and graveyard, after a few seconds my first thought is: AKG C1000s I bought it and have no clue why i did that. Or whatfor? Or why it sounds so shitty by design. Or why so many people bought it nevertheless. Or where it actually is and that i couldn't care less about it. I never used it, just tested, lend out 2 times and that's about it. It just does not sound good. On anything, i guess. R.I.P. whereever and whenever i will find your lifeless body. Couldn't think of something more useless.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Dec 13, 2016 1:21:27 GMT -6
I will gladly trade my charming expertise for a Sony c800g 😬😂😂😀
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 2:00:02 GMT -6
I would also gladly trade your charming expertise for a C800g! Edit: To make it clear - this is a joke. Sorry if this could be misunderstood. In future i will definitely take care of adding emoticons and think twice if it could be read with another meaning as intended. Sorry, ChaseUTB
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Post by jjinvegas on Dec 13, 2016 3:01:52 GMT -6
When i think useless and graveyard, after a few seconds my first thought is: AKG C1000s I bought it and have no clue why i did that. Or whatfor? Or why it sounds so shitty by design. Or why so many people bought it nevertheless. Or where it actually is and that i couldn't care less about it. I never used it, just tested, lend out 2 times and that's about it. It just does not sound good. On anything, i guess. R.I.P. whereever and whenever i will find your lifeless body. Couldn't think of something more useless. Did you ever take the plastic widget out, that gave it that "worst tendency of AKG" presence boost? I worked at a music store for a little while before phantom power was common on little personal recorders and a myriad of PA mixers, just because of the battery power option. and unleashed a lot of the useless little buggers on the world. Sort of surprised they still make them, now with bass roll-off, just in case you have lost all your hearing above 1200 cycles....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 6:11:31 GMT -6
Aaaah, thanks for reminding me that it even has a worse mode. No, really. A 57 or 58 would have had use. A used M201. Whatever mic in that range, preferably passive. Man, i tested a chinese 58 copy for longer than the C1000s - it just sucks, does not sound good - for no obvious reason. The next better AKG is actually good enough and does not suck. The C2000 that has been discontinued. And the C3000 - OK mic. The C1000s - not. It just doesn't have it. Yes, a battery driven condenser, very useful. If done right. Naa, this one is in the graveyard.
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 13, 2016 7:32:46 GMT -6
Mark Fouxman offers a service rebuilding AKG c1000 for $169 turning them into a very useful mic. www.samaraudiodesign.com/modifications2.htmlI always said every microphone has it's use but I never found one for the Stedman N90.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Dec 13, 2016 8:26:30 GMT -6
When i think useless and graveyard, after a few seconds my first thought is: AKG C1000s I bought it and have no clue why i did that. Or whatfor? Or why it sounds so shitty by design. Or why so many people bought it nevertheless. Or where it actually is and that i couldn't care less about it. I never used it, just tested, lend out 2 times and that's about it. It just does not sound good. On anything, i guess. R.I.P. whereever and whenever i will find your lifeless body. Couldn't think of something more useless. This is pretty much exactly how I felt about the NT1-A that I purchased as my first mic. Right out of the box I thought it was broken. Went back to the store and traded it for another brand new one out of the box. Still sounded like crap... I sold that off years ago
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Post by ericn on Dec 13, 2016 8:28:44 GMT -6
Mark Fouxman offers a service rebuilding AKG c1000 for $169 turning them into a very useful mic. www.samaraudiodesign.com/modifications2.htmlI always said every microphone has it's use but I never found one for the Stedman N90. Tim, the Stedman is the secret weapon for the guy who has to have a condenser, but you know is going to sound better with a RE20! You just put it up, nod your head and keep your mouth shut as he tells you "See how well a condenser works on my voice" Now I did only pay $75 for the pair I had, but then I love cheap dynamics!
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 13, 2016 8:45:15 GMT -6
Jeremygillespie, I agree with you about a stock NT1a but I've modded many by changing out the capsule and they can sound terrific. They are an extremely clean, transformerless preamp mated to one of the worst capsules I've heard. I recently converted a pair to omni, using my capsules for a bluegrass band. It made me lust after a pair myself.
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Post by Ward on Dec 13, 2016 8:57:18 GMT -6
When i think useless and graveyard, after a few seconds my first thought is: AKG C1000s I bought it and have no clue why i did that. Or whatfor? Or why it sounds so shitty by design. Or why so many people bought it nevertheless. Or where it actually is and that i couldn't care less about it. I never used it, just tested, lend out 2 times and that's about it. It just does not sound good. On anything, i guess. R.I.P. whereever and whenever i will find your lifeless body. Couldn't think of something more useless. Oddly, we are not in agreement on this. Have you ever had a really trashy drum kit with what sounds like trash can lids for cymbals and thought to yourself "If only there were a magic mic that could fix this train wreck?" Well, you're not alone!! And the good folks at AKG made the C1000 back in the late 80s for this exact purpose. And they still work in this application, extremely well.
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Post by Ward on Dec 13, 2016 9:00:22 GMT -6
Ok, they didn't make them for this exact purpose... and the only good ones were the original black ones with green trim. But they do work in this application!
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Post by EmRR on Dec 13, 2016 9:04:13 GMT -6
My memory was that people bought C1000's back in the day because "man you gotta have a condenser" and there just weren't many affordable ones to be had. With the flood of cheap condensers over the last 15 years, that would be lost on the youth.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 13, 2016 9:06:43 GMT -6
Blue Balls - Phantom powered dynamic. They sound like sweaty balls. CAD TSM411 - Got these as part of a drum mic kit when I was probably 14. Terrible sound. Unusable. EV 664a - Sits idle. Not enough time during tracking to really experiment with it.
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Post by Ward on Dec 13, 2016 9:13:16 GMT -6
EV 664a - Sits idle. Not enough time during tracking to really experiment with it. That's because these are the NEIGHBORS of the beast. For best results, try an EV 666
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Post by ericn on Dec 13, 2016 9:16:38 GMT -6
Ok, they didn't make them for this exact purpose... and the only good ones were the original black ones with green trim. But they do work in this application! I still want to strangle who ever it was at AKG who said " hey let's include a stupid plastic piece that will make this thing hyper cardioid " The marketing guys at AKG were so hung up on cheap multi pattern and not stealing sales of higher priced mics, as evidence I give you the c3000! hey let's build a cheap single diaphragm c414, wait have to EQ that sucker so nobody who can afford a 414 will buy 3 of these instead, wait let's mount a little tiny capsule aimed towards the back so it can do hypercardiod ( what is it about these guys and hyper cardioid) ! The fine folks at AKG bring you the least expensive multi pattern mic, and if they had tried a bit harder it could have sounded killer!
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Post by ericn on Dec 13, 2016 9:19:15 GMT -6
EV 664a - Sits idle. Not enough time during tracking to really experiment with it. That's because these are the NEIGHBORS of the beast. For best results, try an EV 666 Funny how Christian broadcasters shun this classic ! They don't do well in holy water👺
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Post by Ward on Dec 13, 2016 9:41:50 GMT -6
I grew up going to full-on Pentecostal and AOG churches. And let me tell you, there were PLENTY of EV666 mics around. All with the model number scratched off too!
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Post by ericn on Dec 13, 2016 9:57:18 GMT -6
I grew up going to full-on Pentecostal and AOG churches. And let me tell you, there were PLENTY of EV666 mics around. All with the model number scratched off too! m That explains everything!
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Post by jimwilliams on Dec 13, 2016 10:50:15 GMT -6
No SM57's left here. I still use an old Unidyne III 58 for live vocals, the rest are long gone. My older ones broke and the Juarez 57's sound like crap.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 13, 2016 11:01:56 GMT -6
Have you ever had a really trashy drum kit with what sounds like trash can lids for cymbals and thought to yourself "If only there were a magic mic that could fix this train wreck?" Why yes, yes I have. For some reason, it never occured to me to use an equally shitty microphone. My main junkyard mic that I can't quite throw away is a counterfeit SM57 I got stuck with on eBay. That thing sounds TERRIBLE. And I'll never get my $60 back. Depressingly enough, it looks like the real thing. I also have so many cheap EV dynamics that some of them don't get a lot of use, even though I like them and want to keep them around. I haven't used the RE11 in years. The DS35 has been used exactly once. There are a few mic bodies here that aren't being used, they are just waiting for the day that I do my mic mods/rebuilds on them. But I'm with jazznoise and john kenn, I gotta keep it specific and useful if it's going to be here, even though I do have quite a lot. One thing I've also been struggling with a lot the past 4 or 5 years is CK12 capsules. I need to bite the bullet and get one of Tim's, everything I've tried so far keeps coming up short. First I hated the Peluso, now I'm having issues with the ADK. There aren't too many options left at this point, and they are all $400. I guess that's what I get for trying to save a little money.
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Post by donr on Dec 13, 2016 11:20:30 GMT -6
Ha. EV666 The Mic of the Beast.
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