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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 18, 2016 17:15:18 GMT -6
There are currently sharc dual core like chips with the same footprint as the current but UA has not said anything about utilizing them in a redesign of the apollo. The next gen apollo needs a fundamental redesign to increase its throughput ,as the impediment to more on board ua processing is currently the bottleneck of the current design.
UAD 2 was not designed to be backwards compatible to uad1 as UA was in the process of deciding to mothball the whole uad-1 server system due to its limitations.
Ua never pre announces.
The windows guys can correct me on this next part but I believe the windows apollo OS is already running on TB3 MB and is USB-C compatible and backwards compatible to TB 1-2 systems.
If UA utilizes the new dual core sharc chips and significantly increase the unit throughput, (which seems likely given the dsp demands of the newer great sounding plug ins), I envisage certainly apollos with the on board uad2 capacity of a current octo and possibly double that. Remember that currently Console, the apollo gui front end, dedicates a channel while tracking with ua plugs to an individual sharc chip in all apollos and splits two channels across an individual sharc chip in the 8p, halving its plug in capacity. I expect UA to look for ways to harness these more powerful sharc chips and to tweak the chip allocation load process to increase flexibility, as much as possbile.
Personally, if I was you, I wouldn't worry about this but instead contact proaudiostar (Mick) and see if they are still selling the factory refurb apollo quad with full warranty for 1750 as they qualify for the free quad satellite deal and the plug in registration custom bundle deal.
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Post by veggieryan on Nov 19, 2016 17:08:06 GMT -6
Yes sir.
I want a 16 core apollo with only 16 AES I/O and much more flexible routing in Console app... no analog I/O needed just like Motu did with the brilliant Motu 112D.
Come one UAD, this would be easy to offer and it would let us use our existing conversion.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 19, 2016 18:30:00 GMT -6
Yes sir. I want a 16 core apollo with only 16 AES I/O and much more flexible routing in Console app... no analog I/O needed just like Motu did with the brilliant Motu 112D. Come one UAD, this would be easy to offer and it would let us use our existing conversion. Do you run a digital console or have a bunch or bricasti? Other than already having the symphony, is that the reason you don't need analog i/o? I would like to see the base be an octo and dual octo for standard ( like the quad ) and yes a quad octo maxing out the satellite with USB c / TB3. ****Edit **** Then they could make the Apollo BF line have all the same converter chips so one doesn't feel like they have a lesser version of the product  |
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 19, 2016 19:05:09 GMT -6
Yes sir. I want a 16 core apollo with only 16 AES I/O and much more flexible routing in Console app... no analog I/O needed just like Motu did with the brilliant Motu 112D. Come one UAD, this would be easy to offer and it would let us use our existing conversion. AGREED! 16 AES 16 analog would be perfect with an Octocard. I don't want optical. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 19, 2016 19:57:37 GMT -6
Apollo BF'a don't have all the same converters, they have the same AD but the BF 16 has top of the line DA.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 23, 2017 13:24:30 GMT -6
Any new thoughts between the UAD API 2500 and the Zener Limiter? I have a 50% coupon staring me down, and I don't think I can resist. I want both, but trying oh so hard to do the right thing (whatever that is).
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 23, 2017 13:51:31 GMT -6
May god be with you, my son !
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 23, 2017 14:52:07 GMT -6
I was able to get a lot more character out of the Zener. I've never used a hardware 2500 but I'm not sure what all the fuss is about if it sounds like that
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 23, 2017 20:10:57 GMT -6
Man. This sounds like it's gonna be an immediate buy for me. Sigh... Yep, I did 2 mixes with it on various things and pulled the trigger. I use it on everything! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 23, 2017 21:57:22 GMT -6
I really only tried it on drum bus. What else were you using it on?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 23, 2017 21:59:20 GMT -6
I was going to buy, but then pulled up the Klanghelm MJUC. That Altec looking comp is pretty killer.
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 23, 2017 23:05:54 GMT -6
I love using the Chandler on THD on the buss. Also killer on Keys, electric buss and acoustic GTR buss. I chose the Chandler over the Manley after a ton of listening and when Randy compared it to his and did the shoot out I was blown away by how close it was. The Curve Bender and the Sonnox Inflator can do some really amazing things along with the Zener.... Little bit of magic sauce  |
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 23, 2017 23:10:08 GMT -6
I was going to buy, but then pulled up the Klanghelm MJUC. That Altec looking comp is pretty killer. I like that one a lot too! But to me it doesn't have the muscle that the Zener has. That sucker just sounds like audio steroids. I use it on drums, bass, vocals, piano, and the 2 buss. I do wish it had a mix knob though. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 24, 2017 7:12:36 GMT -6
At first I liked them both but subsequently preferred the zener so If I was buying one it would be the zener. I have vari mu and liked that extra muscle/character of the zener described above !
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 24, 2017 14:24:26 GMT -6
Yeah, that Zener is pretty sweet. Had a go with it last night. Very colorful. The 2500 was also pretty rad. Seeing how it's a VCA comp, and I've already got a couple of other stereo VCA comps (Serpent SB4001 & Foote P3EX), I may go for the Zener. Still, half off is hard to pass on.
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Post by javamad on Jan 24, 2017 14:28:06 GMT -6
Thanks for this. Very very close. Maybe a teeny bit of more lower end in the HW and a slightly more immediate attack? I compared the waveforms and the first two transient peaks from the HW version maintain the volume, the software lowers them slightly. Interesting. I just saw one of these second hand in the UK for 3000 UK pounds including power supply. link Sooo tempting. But it would mean putting a high percentage of my gear budget into one single item .. I already did that when I went crazy and got a RND 5060  EDIT: I saw I had 3 UAD coupons totaling $175 so I got the plugin yesterday for $124 to avoid further hardware temptations :-) |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2017 19:45:35 GMT -6
Any new thoughts between the UAD API 2500 and the Zener Limiter? I have a 50% coupon staring me down, and I don't think I can resist. I want both, but trying oh so hard to do the right thing (whatever that is). How do you see your coupons? Also - how does one get a 50% off coupon... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 24, 2017 20:10:02 GMT -6
Ah...went and put it in the cart and you can see the coupons. I had a $50 off...but man, I just can't justify buying another plug for $250...
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 24, 2017 22:05:51 GMT -6
I look at it in price per function and use when I'm buying something.....
The Manley sounded nice, but it's just a Vari-mu style compressor.
The API sounded good and does some nice things, but, it's still just a VCA compressor.
Now the Chandler, it's a very stout and nice sounding compressor/limiter but the fact you can flip that THD on and use it for a total different reason is like buying 2 plugs in one. To me, that's value and when spending this kind of money on plugins value is important. A killer tone box that happens to have a killer compressor is a win win.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 30, 2017 18:41:03 GMT -6
I also cannot access Randy's dropbox files. I'd like to hear them, though.
Somebody out there said in recent times "compression has replaced EQ" and that seems to be the sentiment for me. Always on the lookout for the greatest ITB or OTB compressors.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 4, 2017 6:07:56 GMT -6
Although I am trying to be strong and not buy more plugs (needlessly or at all), Ms. Z keeps whispering sweet mix everythings in my ears nice demo video from Pt X: bloody plug teasers !! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 4, 2017 6:23:13 GMT -6
I also cannot access Randy's dropbox files. I'd like to hear them, though. Somebody out there said in recent times "compression has replaced EQ" and that seems to be the sentiment for me. Always on the lookout for the greatest ITB or OTB compressors. ^^this^^, I still have so much to learn about mixing ( good :I do bad mixing great !) etc, but recently I started going out to my 5 channels of comp while mixing ( 2 wa76, 1 stam adn 1 wa2a). It was like a revelation, things just became dynamic and, single notch changes could be heard and how that track and the mix was affected: mixing became fun as opposed to clicking shit with my mouse: so much more real. Maybe I have just gone through my first 10,000 hours and my ears, brain and abilities are finally getting it (a little better), but I have found the last little while the sonics are just working better. Our site friend MrHolmes has been helping me use REW and to get my room/absorbers better sorted out and I must admit although apparently the symphony mkii and bf apollo are closely design related, personally, I find the symphony mkii seems much more linear and dimensional to me. I understand there could be some simple coincidence affecting my perception, i.e., the room is working better so any box will sound better. But I also think the DA is a big part of this as although I know the headphones out on the bf and symph mkii are very different sonically the dimensional linear difference is very very apparent there too, so I think it is more the box supported by a better behaved room. And then when I add in the comps, I thought the same thing wow, don't even need eq's just get more comps but a lass (Ms. U.A. Zener), keeps whispering in my ear, so sweetly. |
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Post by mikec on Feb 4, 2017 7:43:54 GMT -6
Although I am trying to be strong and not buy more plugs (needlessly or at all), Ms. Z keeps whispering sweet mix everythings in my ears nice demo video from Pt X: bloody plug teasers !! I am right there with you. I may end up getting this one this weekend, but trying to resist. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 4, 2017 10:31:05 GMT -6
Ms. Z told me she my mixes sound way bigger than yours: (does that cool your plug lust jets a bit ? ? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 4, 2017 11:08:57 GMT -6
Just brings out that room sound so explodingly. The Slate Monster will do a similar thing, a little less convincingly, though. Also, the older Abbey Roads RS124 did a similar thing when you engaged the 250ma switch.
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