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Post by bartacusad on Oct 23, 2016 7:28:59 GMT -6
Anybody heard of Wes Audio? They're making a 500 series SSL style compressor called the Dione with total recall over a usb cable for $1199! Thoughts?? wesaudio.com/_dione/_DIONE is second product in new generation 500 series line created by WesAudio. It implements famous stereo bus compressor design made with best components available on the market. Unit is fully compatible with GCon protocol which allows complete parameters management over USB or through open specification 500 series frame – _TITAN. Besides its vintage and transparent nature, unit itself implements many modern features which brings extreme flexibility to shape your sound – like parallel compression or configurable harmonic distortion. Features: – famous stereo bus compressor design with usage of best analogue components, – compatible with GCon – innovative High-speed USB/Ethernet protocol, – digitally controlled and isolated analog circuit – direct USB connection to control analogue device with usage of VST2/VST3/AAX/AAX DSP/AU plugins. – hardware A/B settings switch, – digital sidechain – side chain signal can be sent from the plugin itself (DAW) to the compressor, – 3 touch sensitive encoders allow record automation of particular parameters (Threshold, Mix, Make Up) in DAW, – true bypass – accurate analogue GR meter and its precise simulation implemented in the plug-in itself, – THD – harmonic distortion with two modes (Medium & High), – Mix knob which allows parallel compression, – free software and firmware upgrades, – +24dBu of headroom Specs: Frequency response: 20Hz-20kHz (0.1dB) THD+N (WET): 0.008% (1kHz,0dBu) THD+N (DRY): 0.004% (1kHz,0dBu) Input impedance: 10kohm Output impedance: <100ohm Max gain: 21dB Crosstalk: < -90dB Attack: 0.1,0.3,1,3,10,30 (ms) Release: 0.1,0.3,0.6,0.9,1.2,Auto (s) Ratio: 1.5,2.4.10 SC Filter: 60,90,150,T1,T2 THD (MID switch): 1% THD (HIGH switch): 4%
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Post by rocinante on Oct 23, 2016 8:40:28 GMT -6
Very cool.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 14:17:48 GMT -6
What a great bitof kit. I like this Mixbus TV guy does some great comparisons and also good tips and tricks. Va Bene!
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Post by ChaseUTB on Oct 23, 2016 16:47:46 GMT -6
Bettermaker also make an eq and compressor and now limiter that does this as well... Digitally recallable analog... Looks like they just have a product pic for the limiter bitnhere are the eq and comp... www.bettermaker.eu/c502v/www.bettermaker.eu/eq-502p/Also look at Tegeler Audio they have a vari mu comp that's is all analog 4 triode tubes and 3 transformers per channel and also fully recallable as well. It also can perform different compression modes like vca style compression, opto etc and has a crazy side chain filter implementation link below www.tegeler-audio-manufaktur.de/Schwerkraftmaschine_der_Kompressor
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Post by rocinante on Oct 23, 2016 20:47:13 GMT -6
Shiiiiiittt. That Tegeler is where its at. Just some eq's please. Two 550's with recall and Id be fine. I remember a dude on gdiy made a recallable 1084 that was impressive as all hell.
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Post by ariel on Oct 23, 2016 23:33:48 GMT -6
I am planing on buying the wes audio unit soon, Totally amazing stuff for sure. I do own the Bettermaker 502P and it is amazing with the plug in control and recall. It sounds super transparent but not harsh at all, if you want some clean 2 Bus pultec eq this is the unit for you
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Post by ChaseUTB on Oct 24, 2016 1:06:20 GMT -6
Shiiiiiittt. That Tegeler is where its at. Just some eq's please. Two 550's with recall and Id be fine. I remember a dude on gdiy made a recallable 1084 that was impressive as all hell. Ya I'm excited for companies to implement the digital controlled analog gear more often in new Classic pieces we all love.... this one isn't digital control but the output transformers are vigortronix which is a very respected brand ( former OEP tx owner, revered/ recomended in DIY transformer company known for their Neve replacement / copies. Geoff Tanner recommends them on his web site and a company called Heritage Audio implements Vigortronix transformers www.soundonsound.com/reviews/tegeler-audio-manufaktur-vtrc
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Post by schmalzy on Oct 24, 2016 7:58:50 GMT -6
Digital recallability of analog pieces of gear would be great.
I have one piece of gear in my studio that I don't mind doing analog recall on, though: an SSL style compressor.
Stepped pots = happy me.
Threshold and makeup gain can be a photo or a written description away. If I was REALLY intense about exact analog recall on it, I could just resolve to never change the settings on the compressor and just make adjustments of input and output volumes ITB.
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Post by ericn on Oct 24, 2016 16:26:57 GMT -6
Shiiiiiittt. That Tegeler is where its at. Just some eq's please. Two 550's with recall and Id be fine. I remember a dude on gdiy made a recallable 1084 that was impressive as all hell. but 550s are so easy to recall!
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Post by rocinante on Oct 25, 2016 1:51:58 GMT -6
If I was REALLY intense about exact analog recall on it, I could just resolve to never change the settings on the compressor and just make adjustments of input and output volumes ITB. I kind if do this for a bunch of my gear already. Thats another plus for having several of the same hardware especially if it's an la2a or 1176 where it's all pretty simple.
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Post by bartacusad on Oct 26, 2016 7:23:08 GMT -6
Bettermaker also make an eq and compressor and now limiter that does this as well... Digitally recallable analog... Looks like they just have a product pic for the limiter bitnhere are the eq and comp... www.bettermaker.eu/c502v/www.bettermaker.eu/eq-502p/Also look at Tegeler Audio they have a vari mu comp that's is all analog 4 triode tubes and 3 transformers per channel and also fully recallable as well. It also can perform different compression modes like vca style compression, opto etc and has a crazy side chain filter implementation link below www.tegeler-audio-manufaktur.de/Schwerkraftmaschine_der_KompressorCool! I'll definitely check those out! Thanks for the heads up!
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Post by bartacusad on Oct 26, 2016 7:27:45 GMT -6
Digital recallability of analog pieces of gear would be great. I have one piece of gear in my studio that I don't mind doing analog recall on, though: an SSL style compressor. Stepped pots = happy me. Threshold and makeup gain can be a photo or a written description away. If I was REALLY intense about exact analog recall on it, I could just resolve to never change the settings on the compressor and just make adjustments of input and output volumes ITB. Yeah that's where I'm currently at with my SSL bus compressor. I just leave it stagnant and push into it as needed. Not ideal but it's worked okay. I'd probably be looking at buying this Dione even if it wasn't total recall but that put it over the top for me. I'll be buying one soon! Hopefully : )
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Post by bartacusad on Oct 26, 2016 7:31:40 GMT -6
The main reason I'm interested in any piece of gear that is total recall is that I've usually got 4 or 5 mixes going at the same time. I have to work fast and don't have the time to be taking pictures and trying to remember to do the recalls of the analog gear each time I switch to another song. This fixes that problem! Woohoo!
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Post by rocinante on Oct 26, 2016 7:59:58 GMT -6
Exactly what Bart said. I often jump between 4-5 songs in a session. I guess its to prevent ear fatigue. Although I also agree that I rarely ever touch my buss comps enough for it to warrant needing recall.
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Post by ariel on Dec 24, 2016 4:25:00 GMT -6
This unit is incredible ! I love the plug in control and the install was so simple and easy to do, just make sure you follow the instructions when you do. I sold my SSL bus comp to grab this unit and I do not regret it at all. AT half the price with more features and plug in control this is a no brainer. It works incredibly well on all source material from rock and metal to electronic. It is punchy and snappy yet it retains such a solid quality even when you crank the threshold down. The THD is a cool bonus that allows gtrs to pop out more but not in a way that you would with a fader, it does something different that is hard to explain. If you want an SSL bus comp at half the price with far better control then I suggest to get this. I run it with my SSL SIGMA and it sounds amazing!
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Post by bartacusad on Dec 25, 2016 18:11:26 GMT -6
This unit is incredible ! I love the plug in control and the install was so simple and easy to do, just make sure you follow the instructions when you do. I sold my SSL bus comp to grab this unit and I do not regret it at all. AT half the price with more features and plug in control this is a no brainer. It works incredibly well on all source material from rock and metal to electronic. It is punchy and snappy yet it retains such a solid quality even when you crank the threshold down. The THD is a cool bonus that allows gtrs to pop out more but not in a way that you would with a fader, it does something different that is hard to explain. If you want an SSL bus comp at half the price with far better control then I suggest to get this. I run it with my SSL SIGMA and it sounds amazing! Amen to all that! I just got mine a few weeks ago and I have no idea why anybody would buy anything else. It just kills!
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Post by guitfiddler on Dec 26, 2016 19:24:04 GMT -6
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Post by ariel on Jan 8, 2017 1:41:46 GMT -6
Any one here have the 1176 style comp yet ?
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 9, 2017 8:54:43 GMT -6
Any one here have the 1176 style comp yet ? I only have the Dione at this point but I will most likely get the Mimas based on how good the Dione has been. I can't imagine ever having to go back to a software VCA compressor again.
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Post by svart on Jan 9, 2017 8:57:17 GMT -6
Most of my compressors stay at similar settings between mixes. I don't see the value in this for me, personally.
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Post by timcampbell on Jan 9, 2017 9:14:18 GMT -6
A grease pencil does this for a lot less and can be retrofitted to all your equipment
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 9, 2017 9:16:07 GMT -6
Most of my compressors stay at similar settings between mixes. I don't see the value in this for me, personally. Yeah I tried that for a while but I found myself adding additional compressors afterwards to make up for not wanting to touch my VCA compressor. Now I'm doing less processing and getting better and more punchy results. Also the feature set on this is outstanding compared to the traditional SSL compressor I was using.
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Post by ariel on Jan 9, 2017 11:10:25 GMT -6
Most of my compressors stay at similar settings between mixes. I don't see the value in this for me, personally. The value is that it is cheaper than the SSL one which is great ! and you can automate the threshold to go along with the mix or any other feature as well that you want. Same goes for the 1176 unit so when you hit a quiet part in the song the comp can go along with that just like a plug in. Also you have a complete safety and backup for full recall way down the road.
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 9, 2017 12:09:19 GMT -6
Most of my compressors stay at similar settings between mixes. I don't see the value in this for me, personally. The value is that it is cheaper than the SSL one which is great ! and you can automate the threshold to go along with the mix or any other feature as well that you want. Same goes for the 1176 unit so when you hit a quiet part in the song the comp can go along with that just like a plug in. Also you have a complete safety and backup for full recall way down the road. Word 👍🏻
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Post by sam on Jan 9, 2017 22:23:59 GMT -6
I agree with many people here. I think this company's talents would be tremendously useful on an SSL style EQ for around the $1000 range. That would be life changing.
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