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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 23, 2016 14:17:13 GMT -6
I'll try and get these uploaded to Soundcloud for those that don't want to download the PT files. we.tl/HQaemTcfMlHere is my order of preference: 1) Jeff's Vintage 251 - thick and gooey, handles transients with ease 2) Sal's Vintage 250 - little less bottom end than Jeff's (I believe this is Shannon's capsule) 3) ADK 251 modded by Shannon - really surprisingly balanced. 4) Upton 251 - Mids are totally there, little smaller on bottom than Jeff's. Much more top than the others (which can be dialed out, but haven't decided yet) 5) CV4 mod - little honkier than the rest to me  |
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Post by Ward on Sept 23, 2016 14:24:11 GMT -6
But... I see 6 mics and you only describe 5.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 23, 2016 14:41:04 GMT -6
Sherlock Holmes. I'll have to go back and listen. I was hammered by the end  |
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Post by Ward on Sept 23, 2016 14:45:37 GMT -6
LOL!!
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Post by veggieryan on Sept 23, 2016 16:09:39 GMT -6
Man that Upton is haunting me. Thanks for this. I've been thinking about this a lot lately... do yo think that running the Upton through a nice hardware pultec to gently cut out some treble is as good as having the mic internals changed to remove some of the treble? I'm finding that sometimes I really like having that treble there to work with from the mic...
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Post by Guitar on Sept 23, 2016 16:19:28 GMT -6
those old 251's sound incredible! seems like you guys had a lot of fun. I wish I could have thrown in my DIY version to see how it stands up against the real deal. I used an ADK capsule in mine.
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Post by indiehouse on Sept 23, 2016 16:23:53 GMT -6
Sherlock Holmes. I'll have to go back and listen. I was hammered by the end Isn't the 6th one of Shannon's 251 builds? |
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Post by Shannon on Sept 23, 2016 16:44:34 GMT -6
Sherlock Holmes. I'll have to go back and listen. I was hammered by the end Isn't the 6th one of Shannon's 251 builds? it was but i didn't make the deadline i was burnt out |
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Post by indiehouse on Sept 23, 2016 16:51:36 GMT -6
Isn't the 6th one of Shannon's 251 builds? it was but i didn't make the deadline i was burnt out We'll just assume it would've hung right in with the vintage crowd.  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 23, 2016 18:04:06 GMT -6
I'll put one up with the Upton eq'd to match Jeff's.
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Post by jsteiger on Sept 23, 2016 18:06:03 GMT -6
I'll put one up with the Upton eq'd to match Jeff's. How dare you  LOL |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 23, 2016 18:07:28 GMT -6
Man that Upton is haunting me. Thanks for this. I've been thinking about this a lot lately... do yo think that running the Upton through a nice hardware pultec to gently cut out some treble is as good as having the mic internals changed to remove some of the treble? I'm finding that sometimes I really like having that treble there to work with from the mic... I'm not totally sure I want to take the top out...you can roll off the top easily with any low pass filter. Honestly, in a mix, with the vintage mics you would probably take out a little of the bottom and add a little top... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 23, 2016 18:08:12 GMT -6
I'll put one up with the Upton eq'd to match Jeff's. How dare you LOL We will see if it can be done. |
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Post by veggieryan on Sept 23, 2016 18:14:02 GMT -6
Listening to the clips I REALLY like the lack of sibilance in the modded CV4...
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Post by littlesicily on Sept 23, 2016 18:39:58 GMT -6
I'll try and get these uploaded to Soundcloud for those that don't want to download the PT files. we.tl/HQaemTcfMlHere is my order of preference: 1) Jeff's Vintage 251 - thick and gooey, handles transients with ease 2) Sal's Vintage 250 - little less bottom end than Jeff's (I believe this is Shannon's capsule) 3) ADK 251 modded by Shannon - really surprisingly balanced. 4) Upton 251 - Mids are totally there, little smaller on bottom than Jeff's. Much more top than the others (which can be dialed out, but haven't decided yet) 5) CV4 mod - little honkier than the rest to me View AttachmentMy 250 is original capsule w Shannon's fantastic reskin |
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Post by littlesicily on Sept 23, 2016 18:41:07 GMT -6
Listening to the clips I REALLY like the lack of sibilance in the modded CV4... Yeah until you eq and compress it. It's just darker to begin with, IMO. |
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Post by littlesicily on Sept 23, 2016 18:42:41 GMT -6
Man that Upton is haunting me. Thanks for this. I've been thinking about this a lot lately... do yo think that running the Upton through a nice hardware pultec to gently cut out some treble is as good as having the mic internals changed to remove some of the treble? I'm finding that sometimes I really like having that treble there to work with from the mic... I'm not totally sure I want to take the top out...you can roll off the top easily with any low pass filter. Honestly, in a mix, with the vintage mics you would probably take out a little of the bottom and add a little top... I'm finding I don't need to add any top on the vocal channel but the 2bus eq is adding some 12k and air band stuff. |
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Post by Ward on Sept 24, 2016 6:13:43 GMT -6
Sherlock Holmes. I'll have to go back and listen. I was hammered by the end Isn't the 6th one of Shannon's 251 builds? That's what I was thinking... but, then Shannon popped on to correct us. So, the mystery goes unsolved. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 24, 2016 7:44:25 GMT -6
You're hearing a cv4 that Shannon converted to one of his builds...with the brown body. The other cv4 isn't in the shootout.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Sept 24, 2016 7:52:59 GMT -6
You're hearing a cv4 that Shannon converted to one of his builds...with the brown body. The other cv4 isn't in the shootout. Is there any specific reasons you chose the Upton 251 instead of Shannon's 251? I know you speak highly of both parties, I was just curious |
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Post by littlesicily on Sept 24, 2016 10:47:09 GMT -6
I'd also like to add that Shannon's Custom 251 and the Upton look fantastic. Excellent machine work on both.
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Post by avgatzeblouz on Sept 24, 2016 12:23:59 GMT -6
I wonder how the ADK was sounding before Shannon's mod. Cause it stands up really well ! Is it the Z-shop thing ?
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Post by hasbeen on Sept 24, 2016 12:51:29 GMT -6
1) Jeff's Vintage 251 - thick and gooey, handles transients with ease 2) Sal's Vintage 250 - little less bottom end than Jeff's (I believe this is Shannon's capsule) 3) ADK 251 modded by Shannon - really surprisingly balanced. 4) Upton 251 - Mids are totally there, little smaller on bottom than Jeff's. Much more top than the others (which can be dialed out, but haven't decided yet) 5) CV4 mod - little honkier than the rest to me Would you please identify where each mic is in the pic? Thanks |
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Post by ragan on Sept 24, 2016 14:03:33 GMT -6
I wonder how the ADK was sounding before Shannon's mod. Cause it stands up really well ! Is it the Z-shop thing ? I've used the Z Mod 251 some. Really nice sounding mic. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 24, 2016 14:09:22 GMT -6
Again, this isn't a stock adk
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LOL
