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Post by kilroyrock on Sept 16, 2016 7:09:27 GMT -6
I'm looking at this focusrite rednet stuff.. they've got a rednet digilink for 32x32 that hooks up to the Avid 192 I/o's which have made a pretty good number of records.
those I/o's are going from 2-400. digital around 200, 3-400 for analog I/o ones.
So for about 500 bucks plus the 1k for the rednet I'd be able to hook up 32 channels of digi 192 I/o to Dante, right? I wouldn't need any HD cards, and can run it to Vanilla PT? It'd just be I/O? I have a powerful computer, but seeing the best options, between this and the MOTU 16a, both are pretty cool. The rednet means I could put it in a case, record anywhere with my laptop, including my garage, back to my computer, right? Am I understanding this correctly?
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Post by drew571 on Sept 17, 2016 9:11:59 GMT -6
I have the 16a for my studio and have used Dante for live when I'm using a Yamaha CL 5 with the RIO's. Dante can be a little finicky to get mounted at first but once it's on it's always been solid. I love the 16a for my studio though. Sounds great.
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Post by ericn on Sept 19, 2016 9:57:00 GMT -6
The Rednet digilink is great for adding Dante to HD systems, but I don't know of anybody using it the other way or if it's possible. That said honestly yeah 192's were used on a ton of hits, but most considered them a "blah " at best they were used because they worked with HD and were rock solid.
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Post by ericn on Sept 19, 2016 10:06:56 GMT -6
Yeah I don't think it will work after looking at the manual, they emulate a 192, not a PT system. Digilink is a bit more complicated than a simple I / O, you can't simply reverse the connection.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Sept 19, 2016 10:24:36 GMT -6
Apogee reversed engineered the connection so that their symphony i/o's appear as ProTool interfaces when set to that mode.. it's possible to emulate a 192, they did it.
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Post by ericn on Sept 19, 2016 10:38:02 GMT -6
Apogee reversed engineered the connection so that their symphony i/o's appear as ProTool interfaces when set to that mode.. it's possible to emulate a 192, they did it. Yes and that is what this box is doing ! But this box isn't able to do the opposite ! Not Saint it couldn't be done this just can't !
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Sept 19, 2016 12:06:46 GMT -6
I probably should have read the thread more carefully, as I'm not sure what you guys are saying that Dante box cannot do.
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Post by kilroyrock on Sept 20, 2016 10:42:40 GMT -6
Yeah, I figured this out as well and hadn't gotten back. I was trying to run a 192 > pro tools using Dante. It looks like their Red digilink doesn't allow you to use dante soundcard software, but is the downstream to the PT cards, similar to lynx aurora and apparently symphony.
Darn. Even if they're blah, they're better than wasted space in an electronics dump, which is where they're all heading. proprietary hardware is a bitch like that.
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Post by ericn on Sept 20, 2016 10:51:45 GMT -6
Yeah, I figured this out as well and hadn't gotten back. I was trying to run a 192 > pro tools using Dante. It looks like their Red digilink doesn't allow you to use dante soundcard software, but is the downstream to the PT cards, similar to lynx aurora and apparently symphony. Darn. Even if they're blah, they're better than wasted space in an electronics dump, which is where they're all heading. proprietary hardware is a bitch like that. What about using an AES card in the interface & a lynx or RME card in the computer? Might limit I/o per unit but I thought the had a stand alone mode!
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Post by kilroyrock on Sept 20, 2016 12:58:02 GMT -6
Yeah, I figured this out as well and hadn't gotten back. I was trying to run a 192 > pro tools using Dante. It looks like their Red digilink doesn't allow you to use dante soundcard software, but is the downstream to the PT cards, similar to lynx aurora and apparently symphony. Darn. Even if they're blah, they're better than wasted space in an electronics dump, which is where they're all heading. proprietary hardware is a bitch like that. What about using an AES card in the interface & a lynx or RME card in the computer? Might limit I/o per unit but I thought the had a stand alone mode! Nope, that would've been easy! These things have been around for 15 years. No standalone.
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Post by ericn on Sept 20, 2016 13:22:28 GMT -6
Ok then how about a first gen HD rig for control of HD192's only and use AES!
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Post by kilroyrock on Sept 21, 2016 5:47:29 GMT -6
That would mean running two computers, extra electric bill on the pc, finding hardware that would run it, maintaining two operating systems (pci/pci-x is OLD news), and at that point, the cost savings are eaten up as you can get good converters for the price of that. Someone should make a new housing for those cards that could then operate as a straight converter box without all the HD card nonsense..
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