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Post by Guitar on Sept 9, 2016 13:14:04 GMT -6
Has anyone seen this? I didn't see a thread.
Looks really interesting, a U87 copy.
The funny part to me is, I was thinking about building the exact same microphone myself. Eric Heiserman capsule, vintagemicrophonepcbkit.com PCB, Cinemag iron.
I would use Chunger's body though, which might give a nicer shockmount.
The Stam mic looks really good though, especially for people who don't DIY.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 9, 2016 13:41:49 GMT -6
Where is it?
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Post by Guitar on Sept 9, 2016 14:36:29 GMT -6
I get all my Stam infos from Facebook. I don't even know if they have a real website... I wonder if they would care if I posted their pictures here. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 9, 2016 15:16:22 GMT -6
Hell no
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Post by Guitar on Sept 9, 2016 15:21:12 GMT -6
From Stam Audio Facbook page: "Hi Guys, I am excited to announce Stam Audio SA-87 vintage microphone, an authentic reproduction of the legendary vintage U87 microphone. For this particular product we took a different approach as we decided to use Dany Bouchard PCB's, we consider Dany one of the most (if not the most) knowledgeable guy when it comes to vintage microphones and their circuits, we are extremely confident you will get to enjoy a real vintage u87 mic when getting one of these. The single most important component on a microphone is it's capsule, we will be using Eric's Heiserman capsules on all microphones, Eric makes the most authentic reproduction of the U87/67 and 47 vintage capsules in the world and since they are responsable for 90% of this microphone tone it was a logical step to take regardless of cost. The icing on the cake comes from Cinemag, who makes a wonderful output transformer for the u87 and as always we will place some quality capacitors. We are giving ourselves plenty of time to finish shipping our SA4000's and 1073's that have been pre-ordered, in the meantime we will start ordering parts for the first batch that we will start shipping in February. Stock price: 990 dollars Pre-order price: 890 dollars (200 dollar deposit required) SA-4000 clients and the first 100 to reserve: 790 dollars Paypal fees included. Includes solid case and mic holder. To reserve you can send your deposit (200) via PayPal at stamaudio@gmail.com, please add "SA87" on the subject or note. Videos, audio samples and more coming soon. Thanks!"    |
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Post by Ward on Sept 10, 2016 10:32:14 GMT -6
This kind of rots me, actually... since so many of us are awaiting our SSL buss comp clones.
I wish our friend would finish one thing at a time.
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Post by stam on Sept 10, 2016 12:53:13 GMT -6
Your friend is not starting those until after the SA-4000 and 1073´s are delivered, he does not have 6 hands, which would come handy now.
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Post by pope on Sept 11, 2016 5:57:21 GMT -6
So, if I got that right... He'll buy all the already available parts and he'll just put them together for you (instead of 'Doing It Yourself')?
Interesting approach.
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Post by ragan on Sept 11, 2016 9:02:39 GMT -6
So, if I got that right... He'll buy all the already available parts and he'll just put them together for you (instead of 'Doing It Yourself')? Interesting approach. Yes. He'll put Eric's capsule in Dany's kit. I think there's probably a pretty decent market for that. |
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Post by stam on Sept 11, 2016 9:31:23 GMT -6
So, if I got that right... He'll buy all the already available parts and he'll just put them together for you (instead of 'Doing It Yourself')? Interesting approach. Correct, Dany redraw the pcb´s for us to fit the new body. We could have done our own but I really like his work and he was happy to work together, this saves a lot of time on prototypes, tests, etc... The rest you know, HK-87 from Eric, Vishay caps, Cinemag transformer, all the good stuff. They will be handmade entirely in Chile. |
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Post by pope on Sept 11, 2016 9:54:26 GMT -6
So, if I got that right... He'll buy all the already available parts and he'll just put them together for you (instead of 'Doing It Yourself')? Interesting approach. Correct, Dany redraw the pcb´s for us to fit the new body. We could have done our own but I really like his work and he was happy to work together, this saves a lot of time on prototypes, tests, etc... The rest you know, HK-87 from Eric, Vishay caps, Cinemag transformer, all the good stuff. They will be handmade entirely in Chile. Thanks for clarifying. Will there be any warranty come with the purchase? |
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Post by Ward on Sept 11, 2016 17:58:40 GMT -6
So, if I got that right... He'll buy all the already available parts and he'll just put them together for you (instead of 'Doing It Yourself')? Interesting approach. Correct, Dany redraw the pcb´s for us to fit the new body. We could have done our own but I really like his work and he was happy to work together, this saves a lot of time on prototypes, tests, etc... The rest you know, HK-87 from Eric, Vishay caps, Cinemag transformer, all the good stuff. They will be handmade entirely in Chile. I really like this approach. Drawing in sources and assembling in one place will likely yield some very good results. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 11:56:30 GMT -6
So what's the low down on this? Anyone ordered one? Seem's very resonably priced for what you're getting.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jan 2, 2017 16:09:21 GMT -6
If waiting 3 to 9 months to receive your gear is up your alley, please place an order. If you need one tom, wa87 could be a t your door step. The capsule in the stam maybe higher quality if Dany makes them by hand still? ( idk ) We all know the Warm is mass produced... not sure these mics will sound so different in the end especially with nominal levels and the same preamp settings... the dany capsule may be more true, however Warm very well may have knocked their capsule out the park too so short answer get both in your studio and shoot them out! Jus might have to wait 3-6 months for the shootout...
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Post by ragan on Jan 2, 2017 16:45:29 GMT -6
If waiting 3 to 9 months to receive your gear is up your alley, please place an order. If you need one tom, wa87 could be a t your door step. The capsule in the stam maybe higher quality if Dany makes them by hand still? ( idk ) We all know the Warm is mass produced... not sure these mics will sound so different in the end especially with nominal levels and the same preamp settings... the dany capsule may be more true, however Warm very well may have knocked their capsule out the park too so short answer get both in your studio and shoot them out! Jus might have to wait 3-6 months for the shootout... Stam uses Eric Heiserman's capsule, FYI. It's Dany's kit they're putting it in. I haven't heard it so can't comment. The WA-87 I have heard though and it's excellent. Like a U87 it's a workhorse. Great on Vox, drums, guitar...probably most anything. I've no doubt the Stam one is great too. Dany knows his stuff and Heiserman capsules are supposed to be very good. The capsules Bryce is using in the WA-87 is also excellent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 18:11:10 GMT -6
ChaseUTBProbably a little bit excessive on the wait time, thanks for the info. raganCould do with more clips on the WA-87 thread to make my mind up about it, first impresssions on the WA listening room were not too good.
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Post by rob61 on Jan 2, 2017 19:33:26 GMT -6
I built an 87 clone using Eric's capsule and Dany's board. While not an exact match to my vintage 87, its a very usable mic in its own right and gets regular use here. Judging from the online samples, if you are going for a vintage 87 vibe, the Stam would probably get you closer.
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Post by reddirt on Jan 2, 2017 19:45:04 GMT -6
Hi rob 61 , am interested in the Stam as a utility mic in much the same way an 87 is although I find an 87 can be edgy on some vocalists.
i certainly wouldn't want the Stam to be worse in that area.
Are you able to give some more impressions on how it does and doesn't stack up in relation to your original please.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by rob61 on Jan 2, 2017 20:10:16 GMT -6
I'd say the DIY 87 I built with Eric's capsule and Dany's board is 90% of my vintage 87, and a very fine mic in its own right. The DIY87 has a bit more air on top. The extra air on top most vocalists today would love I'm sure. It has a nice low mid warmth reminiscent of my U87 with a bit more girth. If the Stam, using the same capsule and board as my DIY87, is similar, I think you be a proud owner of it and find it very usable on many sources. I've been doing a bit of male rap vocals, and everyone loved it. I've also used it on a female singer with good results. Acoustic guitar sounds nice, but not quite as good as my U87. I also have the Innertube tube mod for my vintage U87 (a quick plug and play interchange) and for some sources prefer that. That combo is hard to beat.
For the money, my DIY87 is a real performer, especially when considering what I've got in my U87 and Innertube mod. Because the head basket contacts are different, I can't use the Innertube mod on my DIY87 but that would be interesting. Overall, if the Stam U87 is like my DIY87, I think you'd be very happy with it, and it would be hard to find a better mic for the price. It does not have the harsh top end so prevalent in the cheaper clones and Chinese capsules.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 3, 2017 8:59:35 GMT -6
I'd say the DIY 87 I built with Eric's capsule and Dany's board is 90% of my vintage 87, and a very fine mic in its own right. The DIY87 has a bit more air on top. The extra air on top most vocalists today would love I'm sure. It has a nice low mid warmth reminiscent of my U87 with a bit more girth. If the Stam, using the same capsule and board as my DIY87, is similar, I think you be a proud owner of it and find it very usable on many sources. I've been doing a bit of male rap vocals, and everyone loved it. I've also used it on a female singer with good results. Acoustic guitar sounds nice, but not quite as good as my U87. I also have the Innertube tube mod for my vintage U87 (a quick plug and play interchange) and for some sources prefer that. That combo is hard to beat. For the money, my DIY87 is a real performer, especially when considering what I've got in my U87 and Innertube mod. Because the head basket contacts are different, I can't use the Innertube mod on my DIY87 but that would be interesting. Overall, if the Stam U87 is like my DIY87, I think you'd be very happy with it, and it would be hard to find a better mic for the price. It does not have the harsh top end so prevalent in the cheaper clones and Chinese capsules. That's awesome! Thanks for the review. That's about what I expected to hear, maybe better. I might make one of these in 2017. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 15:19:11 GMT -6
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Post by stam on Jun 26, 2017 15:40:59 GMT -6
I'd say the DIY 87 I built with Eric's capsule and Dany's board is 90% of my vintage 87, and a very fine mic in its own right. The DIY87 has a bit more air on top. The extra air on top most vocalists today would love I'm sure. It has a nice low mid warmth reminiscent of my U87 with a bit more girth. If the Stam, using the same capsule and board as my DIY87, is similar, I think you be a proud owner of it and find it very usable on many sources. I've been doing a bit of male rap vocals, and everyone loved it. I've also used it on a female singer with good results. Acoustic guitar sounds nice, but not quite as good as my U87. I also have the Innertube tube mod for my vintage U87 (a quick plug and play interchange) and for some sources prefer that. That combo is hard to beat. For the money, my DIY87 is a real performer, especially when considering what I've got in my U87 and Innertube mod. Because the head basket contacts are different, I can't use the Innertube mod on my DIY87 but that would be interesting. Overall, if the Stam U87 is like my DIY87, I think you'd be very happy with it, and it would be hard to find a better mic for the price. It does not have the harsh top end so prevalent in the cheaper clones and Chinese capsules. Hi Rob61 I am glad you are happy with your DIY87, I would like to state some differences our SA87 has with the regular DIY87 with Eric's capsule and Dany's board. First is the capsule, we made some tweaking with Eric to get it closer to my vintage u87 after several tests, I consider it 95% there. I also use a Sowter 1303f which is a much larger and expensive output transformer than the offerings or suggestions on Dany's website, I tested all alternatives and the Sowter provides the best sonic character, quite a difference actually. Finally, I adjusted C6 with a slight different value for a more balanced response on the top end. Prior to these adjustments I felt the mic was maybe 90% there but I liked my vintage 87 a bit better, after these changes we don't use the vintage u87 anymore, I consider the SA87 to sound a little better while having the same characteristics. Since I am the builder you should take that from whom it comes from, that is my honest opinion though and I am happy to send you one for testing! Thanks, Joshua |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 26, 2017 18:22:03 GMT -6
To me the hk87 sounds more polished and less spitty in the sibilance range. I feel the hk87 will react to we and heavy insert compression and limiting which is prevalent in most popular genres. I do agree on the rk87 sounding good for an affordable capsule ( not sure of cost ). I think sounds good in the mic and circuit and can produce great results. Also personal preference is a factor 😎 |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 26, 2017 20:50:07 GMT -6
For me the HK87 reminds me of my U87ai. The RK87 reminds me of my modded Studio Projects C3.
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Post by stam on Jun 27, 2017 7:11:11 GMT -6
For me the HK87 reminds me of my U87ai. The RK87 reminds me of my modded Studio Projects C3. I think I need to do more recording, the HK87 sounds like my vintage 87, it is much darker than the ai, very different actually. The RK sounds closer to the ai. I need to repeat the test with single takes, decent preamps and another type of singer. I will bring the Neumann's as well and film it, kind of what sweet water does. A/B them Thanks! Josh |
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