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Post by swurveman on Aug 15, 2016 14:40:25 GMT -6
My acoustician has designed my room to have 19 GIK 2'x2' Spot Panels on the ceiling. They are 4-8 lbs, spec. Feel like 5-6 lbs. They were supposed to send me sawtooth picture hanger, but didn't. So, I was wondering if anybody has any experience using an industrial double sided tape for hanging, which would be the easiest way to go if possible. Thanks to anybody with experience lending a helping hand. |
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Post by M57 on Aug 15, 2016 14:44:21 GMT -6
I wouldn't mess with tape; that just sounds scary. Besides those panels will function MUCH better with air between them and the ceiling. Even an inch goes a long way.
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Post by swurveman on Aug 15, 2016 14:59:52 GMT -6
I wouldn't mess with tape; that just sounds scary. Besides those panels will function MUCH better with air between them and the ceiling. Even an inch goes a long way. Thanks M57. My guy didn't spec them with a gap and has diffusion between the spot panels. I became interested in double sided tape after seeing this video, and these spot panels don't even come close in weight to what he's showing the tape holding. |
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Post by M57 on Aug 15, 2016 16:19:29 GMT -6
I should qualify.. I have a lot of mounted 2" thick panels in my studio that have plywood backs. This makes them more sturdy and easier to mount, BUT I believe the advantage of having air behind them is diminished as a result of air not being able to pass through them. I mounted mine with these z-brackets. A set of 12" is more than adequate and though I suppose you could use them with panels that are not backed buy mounting them with the frames, it wouldn't be as pretty. By the way, I noticed that the mounting hardware that GIK recommends for your panels, is not that appetizing either - and the fact that they mount it on the frame suggests that your panels have no backs.. In which case I DO recommend that you figure out a way to hang them. www.gikacoustics.com/product/acoustic-panel-ceiling-cloud-mounting-brackets/ |
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Post by swurveman on Aug 15, 2016 17:01:07 GMT -6
I should qualify.. I have a lot of mounted 2" thick panels in my studio that have plywood backs. This makes them more sturdy and easier to mount, BUT I believe the advantage of having air behind them is diminished as a result of air not being able to pass through them. I mounted mine with these z-brackets. A set of 12" is more than adequate and though I suppose you could use them with panels that are not backed buy mounting them with the frames, it wouldn't be as pretty. By the way, I noticed that the mounting hardware that GIK recommends for your panels, is not that appetizing either - and the fact that they mount it on the frame suggests that your panels have no backs.. In which case I DO recommend that you figure out a way to hang them. www.gikacoustics.com/product/acoustic-panel-ceiling-cloud-mounting-brackets/Yeah, these Spot Panels have 2" fiberglass in a frame with a cloth like cover on the front that staples in the back to the frame. There's a sheer piece of fabric on the back. The weird thing about the saw tooth hanger is, I presume it is supposed to penetrate the sheer piece and claw into the fiberglass. I think if I use the saw tooth claws, I'm gonna put some adhesive on the saw tooth to make it adhere even more. I have my doubts that just the saw tooth is gonna hold. Which specific Z brackets did you use? These are only 2'x2' 2". So, we're not talking about a lot of weight or size. BTW: These spot panels are for the live portion of my dual use room. But I'll ask my guy if he wants them off the ceiling at all. |
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Post by M57 on Aug 15, 2016 17:13:16 GMT -6
I have these 48x24x2 inch panels and I'm pretty sure I'm using the 12" Z brackets - and they are more than up to the task. Really, they're overkill if you asked me. I seem to remember being advised to go with 4" panels, and while I'm sure that would be better, the 2" panels make a HUGE difference on my 8' ceilings. I don't see why you couldn't mount them using the frame - though you will see the brackets, and they're not exactly architectural grade. with your 2x2s you could cut the Zs in half.. |
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Post by kilroyrock on Aug 24, 2016 12:24:54 GMT -6
I use a stack of furniture scratch foot pads on each corner and hang them using picture frame wire. Gives me the space behind it and better isolates it from the wall for vibrations. it was also cheap at home depot.
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Post by svart on Aug 25, 2016 7:11:43 GMT -6
There is certainly a difference in adhesion between brands and intended applications of double sided tape. The stuff you can buy at regular stores is decent if the surfaces are clean and smooth.
However, I used to work at a place that would hang industrial fixtures in trucks with some kind of "industrial strength" double sided tape. That stuff would tear the walls down before you could get it to come loose. It was as close to permanent as good glue. It was rather gooey and the tape backing was more like fiberglass. I can't remember the brand or model, but you had to order it from an industrial supply house.
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Post by swurveman on Aug 25, 2016 8:41:20 GMT -6
There is certainly a difference in adhesion between brands and intended applications of double sided tape. The stuff you can buy at regular stores is decent if the surfaces are clean and smooth. However, I used to work at a place that would hang industrial fixtures in trucks with some kind of "industrial strength" double sided tape. That stuff would tear the walls down before you could get it to come loose. It was as close to permanent as good glue. It was rather gooey and the tape backing was more like fiberglass. I can't remember the brand or model, but you had to order it from an industrial supply house. Thanks Svart. As it turns out, not too many people use these spot panels flush on the ceiling as my acoustician has recommended. So, I'm still mulling solutions. They range from usingg two impaler clips per panel and putting two finishing nails through the frames and into the ceiling. Having an industrial strength double sided tape would be another option. One of the elements that make it different is that the panel's frame has cloth on the back. So, short of cutting off the cloth where the tape would adhere to wood, I'm also looking at stapling one side of the two sided tape to the panel/cloth of the spot panel. |
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