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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 18:41:01 GMT -6
Watch in HD, I didn't make this and I don't have the answers but I can't hear much difference maybe you guys can. I'd love to upgrade my mic preamps but I think I'd need a bigger difference than this.
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 19, 2016 19:19:00 GMT -6
Boooo! this is awful.
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Post by sozocaps on Apr 19, 2016 20:01:05 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 19, 2016 20:27:40 GMT -6
Haven't listened and haven't watched, but everything is valuable. What's the truth?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 20:37:31 GMT -6
Want to hear a Capi preamp... here you go.... I was hoping for more examples on drums, that I could compare with other "clean interface" preamps, which is exactly what the vid is.. was just wondering if people could pick out what's what. |
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Post by sozocaps on Apr 19, 2016 20:41:25 GMT -6
Want to hear a Capi preamp... here you go.... I was hoping for more examples on drums, that I could compare with other "clean interface" preamps, which is exactly what the vid is.. was just wondering if people could pick out what's what. Look up Ben Sesar on YouTube |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 22:13:09 GMT -6
I was hoping for more examples on drums, that I could compare with other "clean interface" preamps, which is exactly what the vid is.. was just wondering if people could pick out what's what. Look up Ben Sesar on YouTube Drums sound great on those vids, but it is hard to determine whether that's just a good drummer, kit and room or if the preamp is really adding much there. That's why the other video is so interesting because it compares the two side by side controlling the other variables. |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Apr 21, 2016 7:03:08 GMT -6
Look up Ben Sesar on YouTube Drums sound great on those vids, but it is hard to determine whether that's just a good drummer, kit and room or if the preamp is really adding much there. That's why the other video is so interesting because it compares the two side by side controlling the other variables. This should tell you that the drummer, the kit and the room are more important to the final sound than the preamps :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 10:00:07 GMT -6
Drums sound great on those vids, but it is hard to determine whether that's just a good drummer, kit and room or if the preamp is really adding much there. That's why the other video is so interesting because it compares the two side by side controlling the other variables. This should tell you that the drummer, the kit and the room are more important to the final sound than the preamps :-) But I have a great kit, I work with great players, great mics and all I'm missing at my stage is mic preamps. I'm just wondering if it's a gain I'm even going to notice. |
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Post by bluenoise on Apr 21, 2016 10:07:25 GMT -6
With all the other bases covered you'll sure notice it. You just get there faster ans easier.
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Post by svart on Apr 21, 2016 10:41:21 GMT -6
I'd say the B preamps are the CAPI. A slight but definite increase in low thump in the B preamp examples..
However, is it just me, or do those drums sound extremely anemic overall? When I track drums, I struggle with reigning in the low end, where these seem completely low-end-less.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 21, 2016 10:50:27 GMT -6
I thought B sounded a bit better too. I PM'd the guy to see which is which and to see if there is a download for the files anywhere so I can load them into ABXer too. Probably should have invited him over too, but it didn't cross my mind.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 21, 2016 20:33:48 GMT -6
I went back and forth over which sounded "better"...Really wasn't that much of a difference at all. Where the Capi would be different is when you drive the hell out of it and let it start eating the transients. Don't hear any of that with this shootout.
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Post by ericn on Apr 21, 2016 21:17:44 GMT -6
I went back and forth over which sounded "better"...Really wasn't that much of a difference at all. Where the Capi would be different is when you drive the hell out of it and let it start eating the transients. Don't hear any of that with this shootout. Was about to say you Push CAPI and you hear the goo and the life, you push generic clean and it falls apart. This is why Jeff added the PAD! |
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Post by bluenoise on Apr 22, 2016 1:32:14 GMT -6
Friends don't let friends use the pad on a vp28...  |
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Post by ericn on Apr 22, 2016 7:46:15 GMT -6
Friends don't let friends use the pad on a vp28... But good friends don't let you clip!  |
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Post by svart on Apr 22, 2016 8:04:20 GMT -6
I went back and forth over which sounded "better"...Really wasn't that much of a difference at all. Where the Capi would be different is when you drive the hell out of it and let it start eating the transients. Don't hear any of that with this shootout. It sounds strange to me, because it doesn't sound anything like when I track drums. These sound completely anemic and lifeless to me.. But that could just be Youtube compression, but I doubt it. It sounds more like something choked the life out of the tracks. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 22, 2016 8:05:10 GMT -6
Friends don't let friends use the pad on a vp28... But good friends don't let you clip! this is what i do when i see someone treating a VP28 gingerly  , then I grab the input and output knobs with my left and right fingers respectively, and give a "Hiiiiiyaaaaa!" while titty twisting them inward!!!! Then I dust off and say "yerwelcome".... as I walk into the sunset to |
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Post by svart on Apr 22, 2016 8:23:49 GMT -6
But good friends don't let you clip! this is what i do when i see someone treating a VP28 gingerly , then I grab the input and output knobs with my left and right fingers respectively, and give a "Hiiiiiyaaaaa!" while titty twisting them inward!!!! Then I dust off and say "yerwelcome".... as I walk into the sunset to Kinda early to be drinking so heavily, innit? |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 22, 2016 8:42:41 GMT -6
I thought A was a more appealing sound, B was more muffled. I liked the rounded snap the snare had with it.
One preamp might not make so much difference, but I imagine the cumulative effect of having 16 or 24 of these preamps on a track might make a huge difference.
Did anyone find the reveal? I'm curious which was which.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 22, 2016 8:54:17 GMT -6
I thought A was a more appealing sound, B was more muffled. I liked the rounded snap the snare had with it. One preamp might not make so much difference, but I imagine the cumulative effect of having 16 or 24 of these preamps on a track might make a huge difference. Did anyone find the reveal? I'm curious which was which. I PM'd the guy, but he hasn't gotten back to me yet. I'll update if/when I hear. |
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Post by warrenfirehouse on Apr 22, 2016 9:11:58 GMT -6
I went back and forth over which sounded "better"...Really wasn't that much of a difference at all. Where the Capi would be different is when you drive the hell out of it and let it start eating the transients. Don't hear any of that with this shootout. To my ears, a good pre that can be driven pleasantly makes more than a subtle difference especially on bass DI and close micd drums. You cant beat the pumpless compression you can get by driving a transformer. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 17:53:35 GMT -6
Interesting to read what you guys are hearing, I've been going with the Zen preamps for quite some time and I'm really wondering if a box of Capis would just be a nice addition to what I have if they can really add something. If you guys have examples of what these sound like particularly on drums when pushed I'd love to hear.
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Post by svart on Apr 28, 2016 14:40:34 GMT -6
Interesting to read what you guys are hearing, I've been going with the Zen preamps for quite some time and I'm really wondering if a box of Capis would just be a nice addition to what I have if they can really add something. If you guys have examples of what these sound like particularly on drums when pushed I'd love to hear. I'll have some next week. Doing a big drum tracking session over the weekend. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 28, 2016 18:21:47 GMT -6
Interesting to read what you guys are hearing, I've been going with the Zen preamps for quite some time and I'm really wondering if a box of Capis would just be a nice addition to what I have if they can really add something. If you guys have examples of what these sound like particularly on drums when pushed I'd love to hear. Don't get hung up on this video, it means exactly 0, if your wondering about old school discrete API pre's against Antelope IC pre's? don't, get some CAPI Vp28's and see what the fuss is about, you can't lose, the versatility is nutz, and your drum sounds will certainly improve. |
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