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Post by cademan7 on Feb 16, 2016 16:23:57 GMT -6
Hey, I was curious if anybody had any info/ideas on what the vocal effect is on the song "Rockin' Into The Night" and also a lot of Billy Squire's material. It sounds almost like a chorus or maybe just a double tracked vocal. It's more subtle in 38 special's material, but I think it sounds really good. Any info I'd love to hear.
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Post by cademan7 on Feb 16, 2016 16:26:04 GMT -6
I'm thinking it may be a short delay. Like shorter than a slap delay.
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Post by ericn on Feb 16, 2016 16:49:51 GMT -6
From memories of some long ago one nighters very short delay with some pitch shift , H3000 I think but it's been a long long time and way to many brain cells to be certain, I think I also remember a Roland and Deltalabs in the rack!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 16, 2016 17:04:57 GMT -6
I was thinking fast delay with eventide too. Just a guess though.
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Post by Ward on Feb 16, 2016 17:47:00 GMT -6
From memories of some long ago one nighters very short delay with some pitch shift , H3000 I think but it's been a long long time and way to many brain cells to be certain, I think I also remember a Roland and Deltalabs in the rack! Your memory is not failing you Eric! If my memory serves, from one conversation back many years ago, a Roland Dimension D on setting 4 factored into that sound. |
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Post by cademan7 on Feb 16, 2016 21:08:46 GMT -6
Wow, ok, cool. Lots of great insight. I think a Dimension D as well as an H3000 would both be great for achieving this type of effect.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 17, 2016 23:18:54 GMT -6
Yep. UAD's Dimension D will get you close. Put it on a stereo send same as you would a verb and dial it in till you start hearing it, then back it off some. It will gel quite nice. Nashville mixers use this trick on vocals all the time.
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Post by ragan on Feb 17, 2016 23:21:57 GMT -6
I think you'll need a little more delay than the Dimension D will give you, though that will help with the modulation. I love Dimension D on a stereo aux, like Cowboy just said.
Check out Softube's new doubler. I haven't demo'd it yet but that's because I know I will buy it and I'm waiting till mix phase of this record so I can put off the purchase.
You can get in the ballpark with Soundtoys "Echoboy" and Waves "Reel ADT" too if you tweak some.
The Eventide would probably be the real way though.
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Post by jayfitz on Feb 19, 2016 11:57:45 GMT -6
For a hardware version, TB Audio makes a stereo chorus based on the Dimension D in a 500-series format, the TBDD-500.
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Post by sean on Feb 20, 2016 0:10:19 GMT -6
I dig the UAD Dimension D but there's also a patch in the Valhalla UberMod that's meant to emulate if you don't have the UAD stuff. SoundToys MicroShift is great for the slight detuned widener (I think it models a couple H3000 patches and the SPX Pitch Change C). Roland also made the SDX-330 which is a bit cheaper than the Dimension D but has a couple patches for that sound a bunch of other interesting effects. I think if you mix on a console a SPX-90 is worth owning for the Pitch Change C and Ambience patch.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 20, 2016 6:30:12 GMT -6
I think if you mix on a console a SPX-90 is worth owning for the Pitch Change C and Ambience patch. Hold the phone, we're talking about a $120 used Yamaha unit right? |
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Post by sean on Feb 20, 2016 13:27:50 GMT -6
I wouldn't pay $120 for one, but they show up on Craigslist for $50 and I think they are worth it for that. And it's Symphonic on the SPX90, not Ambience.
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