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Post by rocinante on Jan 1, 2016 9:51:05 GMT -6
Anyone take the plunge? Most importantly how is the compatibilty with audio hardware and software?
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Post by chasmanian on Jan 1, 2016 11:04:06 GMT -6
keeping in mind that I'm an amateur, and don't know much about really anything:
upgraded to 10 on my old gateway laptop. listen to playbacks on Reaper. have not tried it for hardware. (I record on a different computer.)
the only problem I had was that it changed Reaper to full screen, so there was no x box in the upper right corner. that was a real pain, until I stumbled on how to re-enable it.
I read a post a while back by Justin (Reaper's creator). he said he would wait to upgrade to 10.
all of that said, I was very psyched to get it back in August. I upgraded to 10 on my Sony Vaio laptop. but then went back to 7 because:
- Reaper would not open - my Roland V-drums which I had purchased new from GC, 7 months earlier was not supported. I called Roland, they said it was discontinued and they probably would not be creating drivers for my model for Windows 10. I decided I would think twice before ever buying any Roland gear again. (they've since made drivers for it for 10. but I don't trust them after that experience. sorry to say something negative about them. I have been buying Roland gear since the 70's. whatever.)
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Post by rocinante on Jan 1, 2016 11:42:27 GMT -6
Thanks that's the kind of info i was looking for. Usb compatibility is a must for me regarding laptops. The studio is staying 7. Probably forever. My live rig on the other hand had a sudden death a few months ago via my dead laptop. I just got a new one and im not sure which direction to go.
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Post by mobeach on Jan 1, 2016 13:38:07 GMT -6
keeping in mind that I'm an amateur, and don't know much about really anything: upgraded to 10 on my old gateway laptop. listen to playbacks on Reaper. have not tried it for hardware. (I record on a different computer.) the only problem I had was that it changed Reaper to full screen, so there was no x box in the upper right corner. that was a real pain, until I stumbled on how to re-enable it. I read a post a while back by Justin (Reaper's creator). he said he would wait to upgrade to 10. all of that said, I was very psyched to get it back in August. I upgraded to 10 on my Sony Vaio laptop. but then went back to 7 because: - Reaper would not open - my Roland V-drums which I had purchased new from GC, 7 months earlier was not supported. I called Roland, they said it was discontinued and they probably would not be creating drivers for my model for Windows 10. I decided I would think twice before ever buying any Roland gear again. (they've since made drivers for it for 10. but I don't trust them after that experience. sorry to say something negative about them. I have been buying Roland gear since the 70's. whatever.) I'm on Win 10, when Roland wrote a new driver for my Um-One MIDI to USB adapter it just automatically updated when it came out, I didn't have to go looking for it. but I think it's unacceptable to not write a new driver for V-Drums, that sucks
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Post by chasmanian on Jan 1, 2016 16:05:58 GMT -6
hey mobeach. thank you for the support, man. yeah, bad customer service on their part. I just got the drum bug recently, and researched quite a bit before buying my vdrums. I was astonished, when Roland customer support told me he said it would be unusual for them to make drivers for a discontinued model. I had just bought the freakin thing. it was by no means an old, obscure model. highly recommended on the vdrums forum. whatever. water under the bridge. but crazy, man. just crazy.
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Post by rocinante on Jan 1, 2016 18:17:44 GMT -6
We've been seriously considering getting an elec kit here and naturally roland was the top of the list so this is super informative.
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Post by mobeach on Jan 1, 2016 19:18:52 GMT -6
I would be persistent with their customer service, keep bugging them until they do it I have a Yamaha DTextreme Special 4 kit that I like, I'm not familiar with the options of Vdrums, I just record as an audio track and the module has MIDI of course.
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Post by mobeach on Jan 1, 2016 19:20:18 GMT -6
hey mobeach. thank you for the support, man. yeah, bad customer service on their part. I just got the drum bug recently, and researched quite a bit before buying my vdrums. I was astonished, when Roland customer support told me he said it would be unusual for them to make drivers for a discontinued model. I had just bought the freakin thing. it was by no means an old, obscure model. highly recommended on the vdrums forum. whatever. water under the bridge. but crazy, man. just crazy. This claims there's a solution for Win 10 www.vdrums.com/forum/advanced/technical/1118885-vdrums-windows-10-driver-solved
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Post by chasmanian on Jan 1, 2016 20:08:03 GMT -6
yeah, I saw that. still not in a hurry to switch to 10 on any other computers.
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Post by formatcyes on Jan 2, 2016 2:09:08 GMT -6
We've been seriously considering getting an elec kit here and naturally roland was the top of the list so this is super informative. I have a 2box drumit 5 Its awesome stranded heads super fast great feel very dynamic I tried the Roland td30 the 2 box is better IMHO.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 2, 2016 7:50:48 GMT -6
I am using Windows 10 just for general browsing, but I love it. I think it puts PC pretty much on par with Mac in terms of being smooth and easy.
I am waiting for Universal Audio's big update for Windows before I switch to 10 for my DAW. It is not officially supported yet.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 2, 2016 16:57:28 GMT -6
I'm on 10 but its impending release was why I got a brand new computer and an interface that had just come out. This will hopefully be my last for a long long time. I'm 3 cpus from the top and have 4 empty RAM slots along with 5 empty drive slots and 6 empty PCI-E slots. My friends tell me there's no point in anything more powerful unless I want to edit video.
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Post by wagz on Jan 2, 2016 21:15:58 GMT -6
Over the last few days, I "upgraded" from Win 7 Pro 64 to Win 10 Pro 64. (In case you don't want to read my rambling: So far, this upgrade was worth the hassle! I like Win 10 Pro 64. My DAW is rock-solid.)
The process was a bit annoying because the files on Microsoft's site didn't specifically line up with the instructions that they gave about "upgrading". Following, the link provided by Microsoft (which was repeatedly linked to by many articles), I only found the Media Creation tool in what I assume must have been 32 bit format. I say assume because I ran the thing, following the instructions that I mentioned. Never once did I see the choice for 64 bit, much less Win Pro, versus Win Home or something. I needed the OS to run in 64 bit, because if I didn't maintain that, I'd basically have to re-install and authorize many programs and plugins. And, that would be pretty un-fun. So, I cancelled the install once it finished downloading (I used the "Upgrade this PC now option). I didn't want to take any chances. So, I kept searching the net. All links and articles about upgrading led to the Microsoft site, but not to the 64 version of the Windows media creation tool. So annoying. I eventually did find the file and ran it. No matter what the Microsoft program tells you, it NOT take "a few minutes". Also, it said something like "feel free to surf the net and use your computer while the file downloads". My advice is to anyone doing what I did is to expect this whole process to take an hour or so. Once the thing downloads, you can then choose to upgrade or cancel. Since I now had the 64bit version, I decided to "upgrade". The screens that I was presented with differed from the installation instructions that I read in articles and on Microsoft's site. Discrepancies. I was, at some point, notified that the program would be upgrading me to Win 10 Pro, since I was previously using Win 7 Pro. Again, the program should have said "Upgrading to Windows 10 Pro 64 bit". Because it did not, I had to wonder whether or not I just ruined my computer setup and created a mess by trying this "upgrade". I proceeded with the process. The computer restarted a few times. I left for work, but came back some time later (about thirty minutes?) to find that the process was complete.
My name was up on the screen and it certainly looked a bit different than Win 7. I noticed that the start-up time was much slower than it was with Win 7 Pro 64. After booting up, I saw that my settings and preferences were indeed preserved (they gave me an option to do that). So, all of my programs and whatnot were just as I left them. There were some apps that I didn't want in the Start Menu. If you right-click, you can uninstall some of them. Others, you have to use special commands to remove.
Issues after the "upgrade": I had no sound in foobar2000 or Youtube. Also, iLOK wouldn't run, which meant that I couldn't load projects in Cubase. There was a plugin called Canary that I had to sign in to re-authorize. Other than that, my Waves programs wouldn't work. So, I had to fix these issues.
However, all of my programs are intact. Also, Win 10 Pro 64 is running very well. It's quite snappy, not sluggish. After removing those bloaty apps that I didn't want and tweaking a few things that load at startup, I can say that it is very nice. At some point, I re-installed my Lynx AES16 drivers. I don't remember the exact reason why I did that. I think that Cubase was cutting out and my meters were spiking. I tracked the problem to the fact that my buffer settings had been changed. I can load the same project that was crushing my computer in my previous Win 7 Pro 64 OS (lots of Nebula and cpu-heavy plugins) with no problem. I feel like I got a new computer! It seems much faster.
Now, I only have two issues. The first is that I want my boot-up time to be even shorter. Also, when I load my writing template into Cubase, which loads Superior Drummer 2, it takes quite a while for the files to all be loaded. After that, my computer runs like a champ. I am very happy with this upgrade! I have found it quite stable. This computer goes to eleven, now!
*Keep in mind that I have only been running this upgrade for two or three days.
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Post by WKG on Jan 2, 2016 23:11:22 GMT -6
I made the jump from 8.1 to Win 10 pro here also. Went pretty smooth overall which surprised me. I made sure to image my drive with Acronis before venturing out though. I did end up uninstalling/reinstalling my RME UFX drivers and then some plugins when I went to PT 12. For some reason it didn't recognize a few. I also updated my Nvidia driver but had to roll that back due to weird CPU spikes in PT 12, Reaper was just fine though, something in PT12 apparently.
In any case all is running smooth now and on my system PT seems more efficient than it was, used to idle at 4% now it sits at 0% until I open a project. Not bad considering it isn't Avid supported for PT 12 yet. I do run pretty basic sessions though, and no video. Oh, I also set my internet connection to metered to give me some control over how updates are installed
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Post by rocinante on Jan 3, 2016 9:27:08 GMT -6
Thanks guys. Well before I begin reuploading my software to my new laptop I guess ill upgrade. Thanks for the detailed responses. We honestly do a faIr share of video work here so from what im reading I'm okay in that department too. Just one more thing; And this is just my being raised by Russian biker hippy NYers, but did you read what Snowden had said about 10? We're kinda already there but I guess you gotta read the fine print and install using the custom and not express? Whatta you gonna do Eh. These days I'm so boring and uninvolved I guess I dont really care but it's kind of a lousy endorsement into such tactics. Thanks again.
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