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Post by stormymondays on Jun 16, 2019 7:51:08 GMT -6
OTB: TK Audio SSL style comp > Black Box Analog HG-2 ITB: Slate VTM Sometimes I’ll have an EQ after the comp: Retro 2A3 or Hammer 2. I bought the Hammer for this but it’s so good on vocals and anything that needs some hammering that it’s not part of the chain yet. I still need to try the Chromas and EM-PEQ on 2-buss.
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Post by mikec on Jun 16, 2019 8:20:09 GMT -6
Silver Bullet with an Audio Scape bus compressor on the insert, Pro L 2, and sometimes either a stereo matched pair of RS124s or Retro Powerstrips depending on what I am working on and how lazy I am.
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Post by drsax on Jun 16, 2019 8:24:45 GMT -6
These days it’s usually just the Silver Bullet. Sometimes I’ll insert a stereo buss comp, but usually not. Normally I leave EQ til mastering
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Post by M57 on Jun 16, 2019 8:47:43 GMT -6
So with the Silver Bullet, if you were only planning using it on the 2, doesn't it make more sense to go with chroma or some other mojo inducer, or is there a reason that it's better to put the compressor in the insert and not before or after the SB?
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Post by mikec on Jun 16, 2019 8:54:27 GMT -6
So with the Silver Bullet, if you were only planning using it on the 2, doesn't it make more sense to go with chroma or some other mojo inducer, or is there a reason that it's better to put the compressor in the insert and not before or after the SB? Not to make this a Silver Bullet thread, but for me it is one of the most if not the most flexible pieces of gear in my studio. It lives on the mix bus, but since I have mine wired into a patch bay I also use the preamps heavily during tracking. I also use it as a hardware insert if I want to run something through it to print back with some mojo.
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Post by M57 on Jun 16, 2019 9:03:48 GMT -6
So with the Silver Bullet, if you were only planning using it on the 2, doesn't it make more sense to go with chroma or some other mojo inducer, or is there a reason that it's better to put the compressor in the insert and not before or after the SB? Not to make this a Silver Bullet thread, but for me it is one of the most if not the most flexible pieces of gear in my studio. It lives on the mix bus, but since I have mine wired into a patch bay I also use the preamps heavily during tracking. I also use it as a hardware insert if I want to run something through it to print back with some mojo. Got it, but if it ONLY sits on the mix buss, it seems like a waste of functionality. I've got my recording chains pretty happy at at this point. I'm just asking if there's a less expensive alternative that delivers comparable sonic quality sans all the extra functionality that I don't plan on using.
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Post by drbill on Jun 16, 2019 9:57:08 GMT -6
Not to make this a Silver Bullet thread, but for me it is one of the most if not the most flexible pieces of gear in my studio. It lives on the mix bus, but since I have mine wired into a patch bay I also use the preamps heavily during tracking. I also use it as a hardware insert if I want to run something through it to print back with some mojo. Got it, but if it ONLY sits on the mix buss, it seems like a waste of functionality. I can certainly understand that. I mix enough that even if that's the only place I used it, it would be more than worthwhile, but I know there are lots of guys that track way more than they mix, and it's set up for that as well. Personally, I never even monitor thru my DAW without going thru a Silver Bullet. I probably don't even know what my DAW sounds like anymore. LOL There is a lot of functionality built into the unit so that it (IMO) should get used throughout your production process. You can check out the manual on the LTL site. It will give you some more insight into how to use it in various ways than I can type out this AM before coffee.... I use mine at virtually every stage of my production workflow. Cheers,
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Post by Ward on Jun 16, 2019 10:03:02 GMT -6
Honestly, I've been ITB lately . . . but used to be a Focusrite Red 2 and Red 3 and/or the Stam SSL buss comp, sometimes the pultec clones.
I'll be getting back to hybrid mixing soon. But doing mix collaborations has driven me to the ITB environment, as I can share PT sessions with my mix partners across continents.
I'm sure I'm not alone here in that.
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Post by M57 on Jun 16, 2019 10:13:21 GMT -6
Usually Focusrite Red 2 and Red 3, but lately the Warm EQs have been strapped across it. ITB contains SSL buss comp, Air stereo widening and then then L1 with ultra maximizer. And I do mix into all that. I like to "pre-master" and in doing so, I know that there's not a whole lot the mastering engineer can do to ruin my mixes. After hundreds of records, I've found very few pleasant mastering surprises. It happens, but very rarely. So I play it safe in advance. Hey Ward, Check out the timestamp on the above post of yours from this thread. That's partly why I bumped it - to see what's changed for some of you since those posts from four years ago.
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Post by viciousbliss on Jun 16, 2019 10:17:42 GMT -6
Heavyocity Punish is just awesome. Been using the DS-1 MK3 with more specific settings in regard to mid-side and band pass. The Neve DFC from UAD is a big help. Sometimes I’ll use their Distressor too. Been seeing what Sonnox Dynamics can do while I wait for the satellite to get fixed. I’ve been adding the VSM-3 in mid-side while my UAD is not available.
On a pre-master aux I’ll use a bx console SSL E and a tape plugin like Satin or Tapedesk. HG-2 and Disto-S are back with the UAD missing. Still trying to get the same qualities as I do with UAD, so I’m going to be trying more things.
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Post by EmRR on Jun 16, 2019 10:38:50 GMT -6
usually WE 111C's -> FCS P4DMS -> Dolby 740
Sometimes lately it's a passive 4 to 2 mixer with P4DMS on one bus and SB4001 on another -> RCA 85-X line amps -> Dolby 740.
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Post by seawell on Jun 16, 2019 11:07:37 GMT -6
SSL Fusion with Audioscape Buss Comp on insert(pre-eq option selected) > Chandler Germanium Pair. That all comes back in the box and on that master buss aux there is a UAD Chandler Curve Bender > Cranesong Phoenix > Fab Filter Pro L2 > Print Track.
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Post by ml on Jun 16, 2019 14:55:30 GMT -6
Kazrog True iron (mix 50%) Brainworx bx_digital V2 Waves PuigTec EQP-1A FabFilter Pro-L-2
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Post by Tbone81 on Jun 16, 2019 16:09:03 GMT -6
Sebatron vmp4000 Capi vp28 Portico 542 tape emulators (lately been using these on individual instruments or busses instead) Buzz Audio DBC
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Post by wiz on Jun 16, 2019 16:19:47 GMT -6
Soundcraft Delta Stam SA4000 Handsome Audio Zulu
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jun 16, 2019 17:39:01 GMT -6
For the last couple years, AML 2254’s and AML pultecs. Would love to add a Silver Bullet after playing with one at NAMM.... super vibey and flexible!
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Post by nomatic on Jun 16, 2019 17:46:30 GMT -6
My 2-buss: Silverbullet -> IGS Tubecore -> Foote P4DMS -> Zulu -> Hendyamps Michelangelo. I have had all of those in my chain at one time or another!
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Post by mike on Jun 16, 2019 18:04:15 GMT -6
BumpI just went OTB for the first time; putting the Audio-Scape Buss Compressor on the 2 has changed my life, so I'm rethinking the chain. If they "re"-post, I think it will be really interesting to see how much has changed for some of the folks who posted in this thread almost four years ago.
I've been thinking about a hardware SSL buss comp and couldn't find good recent comparisons online between Software and Hardware SSL buss comps. How much better was the hardware over the software version for you ? Thanks in advance!
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Post by M57 on Jun 16, 2019 18:40:18 GMT -6
BumpI just went OTB for the first time; putting the Audio-Scape Buss Compressor on the 2 has changed my life, so I'm rethinking the chain. If they "re"-post, I think it will be really interesting to see how much has changed for some of the folks who posted in this thread almost four years ago.
I've been thinking about a hardware SSL buss comp and couldn't find good recent comparisons online between Software and Hardware SSL buss comps. How much better was the hardware over the software version for you ? Thanks in advance!
Hay Mike, You're asking the wrong guy. I just don't have the experience the pros around here have. All I know is that it has a life and vibe to it that none of the soft comps I use can touch. That includes things like the comps in Logic, the Slate Everything Bundle, and probably a half dozen aftermarket comps from the likes of Waves, Kush, Klangheim, etc.
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Post by christopher on Jun 17, 2019 10:41:58 GMT -6
For ITB I’m pretty light handed, MJUC and barricade limiter, RBJ High pass and low pass filters for quick mix checks. The main thing on my ITB chain is BC frequency analyzer, the other stuff on the 2bus I bypass mostly and try to get the sound on sub busses. So I guess the subgroups are where I go crazy with plugins.
For OTB been pretty much the same chain since forever for me: late 80s era MCI (sony) console EQ and summing (ACN), + parallel subgroup w/EQ, built in ssl style VCA comps on the subgroup and 2bus. Then into 70s MCI jh110 deck either with 996/sm900, or just input monitoring = no tape. The 110 electronics are pretty thick, so that’s interesting at times. This chain just always seems to work for me, although I experiment with other stuff often.
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Post by stratboy on Jun 17, 2019 11:32:42 GMT -6
So, here was me in 2015: UAD Brainworx bx_digital V2 M/S EQ, Vintech x73i pair, Elysia xFilter, IGS S-type
And here’s me now: APB Promix Rack Stereo out > Silver Bullet mojo amps > SB insert send > Kush Electras > IGS S-type > Zulu > SB insert return > SB Bax EQ > Svartbox A/D
Basically a more sophisticated version of 2015. The APB does 20x2 analog summing with some nice channel EQ on individual stems, if needed. The Silver Bullet gives me numerous shades of ‘attitude’ on the 2-bus front end, the Electras do the fine tuning, the S-type ‘glues’ and drives the Zulu back into the Silver Bullet’s EQ for broad strokes. The SB is patched so I can use it for tracking, overdubs and mixing, usually just by twisting the mode switch.
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Post by M57 on Jun 17, 2019 13:07:34 GMT -6
So, here was me in 2015: UAD Brainworx bx_digital V2 M/S EQ, Vintech x73i pair, Elysia xFilter, IGS S-type And here’s me now: APB Promix Rack Stereo out > Silver Bullet mojo amps > SB insert send > Kush Electras > IGS S-type > Zulu > SB insert return > SB Bax EQ > Svartbox A/D Basically a more sophisticated version of 2015. The APB does 20x2 analog summing with some nice channel EQ on individual stems, if needed. The Silver Bullet gives me numerous shades of ‘attitude’ on the 2-bus front end, the Electras do the fine tuning, the S-type ‘glues’ and drives the Zulu back into the Silver Bullet’s EQ for broad strokes. The SB is patched so I can use it for tracking, overdubs and mixing, usually just by twisting the mode switch. Funny, I was just watching the home page videos for the Electra and the Zulu. The Zulu just plain looks weird, and the video was fairly executed at best. It was hard to tell what things do because the demo made minute changes with no A/Bing. That and nothing was explained. Sometimes words came up on the screen - sometimes not. Not so for the Electra, where the video was comprehensive and clear, with a working demonstration that walked through every control in the context of a mix.
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 17, 2019 13:16:23 GMT -6
IAA 1222 summing mixer -> IAA prototype stereo bridged T EQ, and an API 2500. /shameless plug
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 15:10:32 GMT -6
LTL Stage II (blue) --> TK Audio BC501 --> UAD EQP1A --> UAD ATR-102
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Post by shoe on Jun 17, 2019 16:39:30 GMT -6
2x BAE10DCF Chandler Curvebender
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