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Post by cameronlabs on Sept 2, 2015 18:30:51 GMT -6
I and my father, the late Fred Cameron, used to modify Neumann U87s into valve microphones. After his death, I closed the company, Cameron Labs. I am now looking towards retirement, and am considering modifying a limited number of microphones. What is the group's thoughts on any interest regarding this?
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Post by wiz on Sept 2, 2015 18:32:24 GMT -6
Welcome.
I guess more info would be good.
87.. 87ai
price
whats involved?
Can it be returned to its original state easily?
Difference to the inner tube mod?
cheers
Wiz
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Post by tasteliketape on Sept 2, 2015 18:37:19 GMT -6
I've heard two different Cameron mics they were amazing you won't send them back
may have to sell everything for one of these
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 2, 2015 19:48:30 GMT -6
welcome, which 87's will you be modding? and what does the mod entail tube wise and implementation? do you build the PSU or use something existing? any info is appreciated, thanx
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Post by tasteliketape on Sept 2, 2015 20:31:42 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Sept 2, 2015 21:08:22 GMT -6
Do tell us more! Pretty please!
Oh and welcome to our little corner of the Internet!
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Post by robschnapf on Sept 3, 2015 9:26:20 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 3, 2015 13:07:18 GMT -6
A friend of mine has a Fred Cameron 87 and says it's the best mic he has... Welcome, cameronlabs |
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Post by kidvybes on Sept 3, 2015 14:52:08 GMT -6
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Post by robschnapf on Dec 8, 2015 11:16:03 GMT -6
I have the inner tube audio tube electronics for the 87.
Going on 20 years now.
Sounds very nice.
Wonder if these are the same vibe....
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Post by sean on Dec 9, 2015 9:08:38 GMT -6
There are a lot of Fred Cameron modified microphones here in Nashville. There's a couple at Sound Emporium, used to use on at Jack Clement's before the fire, a I use an 8 channel Cameron preamp at Dave Roe's studio (don't know anything about that one)
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 9, 2015 9:10:28 GMT -6
Interesting...I remember singing a scratch on an 87 in the B Room that Matt had put up...I thought it was a 67 and commented on it and Matt corrected me (guess I could've read the bottom) ...fantastic mic. Wonder whether it had the Cameron mod?
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Post by jsteiger on Dec 9, 2015 9:49:17 GMT -6
For many years I had a Fred 87. It was an amazing mic. I sold it about 10 years ago. I never had the chance to put it side by side with a real 67. From memory I would put it somewhere between an 87 and a 67, leaning closer to a 67. This was a permanent mod though and I think the inner tube mod that robschnapf is talking about its easily reversible? I will add that I have heard there are one or two Fred 670's floating around that are suppose to be outstanding? Is this a rumor cameronlabs or fact? |
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Post by sean on Dec 9, 2015 10:00:35 GMT -6
We used to have a Fred Cameron 660 (or some sort of vari-mu compressor) but it started to not sound so great anymore so we sold it because there wasn't any information about it and Fred had passed away and we didn't want it to sit on a tech's bench for a year...it was a nice unit! I'd like to know what the preamps are. They look card based so I was wondering if there were old API or UA 1108's. It's not my unit so I can't really tear into it.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 9, 2015 10:13:06 GMT -6
For many years I had a Fred 87. It was an amazing mic. I sold it about 10 years ago. I never had the chance to put it side by side with a real 67. From memory I would put it somewhere between an 87 and a 67, leaning closer to a 67. This was a permanent mod though and I think the inner tube mod that robschnapf is talking about its easily reversible? I will add that I have heard there are one or two Fred 670's floating around that are suppose to be outstanding? Is this a rumor cameronlabs or fact? Doesn't ioaudio have a 87-67 mod too? Where you just drop it right in? |
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 9, 2015 10:14:46 GMT -6
We used to have a Fred Cameron 660 (or some sort of vari-mu compressor) but it started to not sound so great anymore so we sold it because there wasn't any information about it and Fred had passed away and we didn't want it to sit on a tech's bench for a year...it was a nice unit! I'd like to know what the preamps are. They look card based so I was wondering if there were old API or UA 1108's. It's not my unit so I can't really tear into it. awe man, it was probably just tubes going bad? one of 12!(i think there's 12..right?), how long ago did you sell it? those things are so cool and so out of reach it'$ not even funny, jsteiger how'd your 660 fare after the post office debacle? |
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 9, 2015 10:18:57 GMT -6
For many years I had a Fred 87. It was an amazing mic. I sold it about 10 years ago. I never had the chance to put it side by side with a real 67. From memory I would put it somewhere between an 87 and a 67, leaning closer to a 67. This was a permanent mod though and I think the inner tube mod that robschnapf is talking about its easily reversible? I will add that I have heard there are one or two Fred 670's floating around that are suppose to be outstanding? Is this a rumor cameronlabs or fact? Doesn't ioaudio have a 87-67 mod too? Where you just drop it right in? Max is the man, groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=58030.0 |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 9, 2015 10:22:15 GMT -6
We used to have a Fred Cameron 660 (or some sort of vari-mu compressor) but it started to not sound so great anymore so we sold it because there wasn't any information about it and Fred had passed away and we didn't want it to sit on a tech's bench for a year...it was a nice unit! I'd like to know what the preamps are. They look card based so I was wondering if there were old API or UA 1108's. It's not my unit so I can't really tear into it. awe man, it was probably just tubes going bad? one of 12!(i think there's 12..right?), how long ago did you sell it? those things are so cool and so out of reach it'$ not even funny, jsteiger how'd your 660 fare after the post office debacle? |
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 9, 2015 10:36:06 GMT -6
awe man, it was probably just tubes going bad? one of 12!(i think there's 12..right?), how long ago did you sell it? those things are so cool and so out of reach it'$ not even funny, jsteiger how'd your 660 fare after the post office debacle? i'm speechless.... |
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Post by sean on Dec 9, 2015 10:48:40 GMT -6
Found some really old cell phone video. Actually it was a preamp/compressor/EQ. Probably sold it 4 years ago. It wasn't mine personally, I don't know how much the studio sold it for.   |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 9, 2015 10:54:51 GMT -6
Don't tell us if you find out...
"$375"
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Post by tasteliketape on Dec 17, 2015 22:04:29 GMT -6
Thought you all might like this a friend is in Nashville working on his record the studio has 8of these Fred Cameron mic pre's rare birds Attachment Deleted not much to look at but wow amazing sounding |
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Post by EmRR on Dec 17, 2015 22:41:08 GMT -6
it was a preamp/compressor/EQ. It wasn't mine personally. Looks like RCA BA-20 series transformers repurposed. |
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Post by sean on Dec 18, 2015 0:28:52 GMT -6
Thought you all might like this a friend is in Nashville working on his record the studio has 8of these Fred Cameron mic pre's rare birds View Attachment not much to look at but wow amazing sounding That's at Dave Roe's studio, I work out there pretty often. No idea what they are I need to pull them out sometime and look under the hood. |
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Post by odyssey76 on Dec 18, 2015 5:02:19 GMT -6
Thought you all might like this a friend is in Nashville working on his record the studio has 8of these Fred Cameron mic pre's rare birds View Attachment not much to look at but wow amazing sounding I actually like the look of gear like these pres. If I saw them in a studio I would immediately want to try them. What kind of design/sound/build do these have? |
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