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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 3:38:10 GMT -6
Hi guys, turns out we possibly got a female singer at hand for our personal non-commercial electro music project. I didn't hear anything from her yet, my brother talked to her and she might be kind of a nice loud mezzo-sopran with some love for soul.  AFAIK she has a background as a live performer in top-40 cover bands with some studio experience for demos. I will co/write vocals for her and try to accomodate for her musical background. So, i thought about if it would be a viable idea to squeeze better recording performance out of her with a more familiar handheld mic instead of a condenser. ;-) The 441 is the best dynamic mic i have. A plus might be it's hypercardiodid character cause room sound and treatment is suboptimal. We originally never planned to record 'real lead vocals' or acoustical instruments in our place. I was also thinking about avoiding headphones and doing the "speaker monitoring" while tracking for better performance. Do you think this could work? Opinions? |
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Post by baquin on May 17, 2015 6:16:23 GMT -6
I really like the 441 for vocals, also Sm7 & RE20. It's hard to beat them. Just play with the mic position in your room and taylor the sound with the HP/Presence. Moving the axis of the mic a little bit will make a softer response in the 's' area. Sometimes I record demos for bands in their untreated rehearsal place. The 441 is usually the singers mic, low room tone, low bleed from other instruments. You may like using a Sm57 and the 441 at the same time. The thing is, you'll need tons of gain. Some singers find distracting hearing the room, so that helps, and you can later use the 57 for heavy FX. Let us know if it worked.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 9:59:51 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing yor experience. We have 2 weeks to go before the first meeting and will try to experiment in advance and prepare tracks etc....
Will report how it worked out.
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Post by ragan on May 17, 2015 10:09:35 GMT -6
I love the 441 on vox. I first learned to appreciate it while I was playing guitar on a record and they wanted to do it all live (the studio is in an old theatre). The engineer threw the 441 up for its tight pattern and we all just loved how it sounded on the singer's voice. Doing some overdubs later we preferred the 441 to the old M49 they had rented for the record. Anyway, it really impressed me and I picked one up a few weeks later. It's one of my favorite mics.
The record is Shelby Earl "Swift Arrows" if you want to check it out. 95% of her vox is the 441 into a Quad 8 desk and an 1178.
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Post by Ward on May 17, 2015 13:06:14 GMT -6
The 441 is a formidable microphone... and I ALWAYS forget to try it on Femvox. Doh!!!
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Post by ragan on May 17, 2015 13:09:07 GMT -6
It certainly worked for Stevie Nicks!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 13:10:52 GMT -6
Sounds awesome - thanks for the sound example. Sounds really good!
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Post by jayson on May 17, 2015 13:26:06 GMT -6
It certainly worked for Stevie Nicks! Daah!!! You beat me to it! I was gonna say I remember reading that Stevie Nicks was reputed to carry a 441 in her purse at all times. Great mic for female voice. If you change your mind abut an LDC, the Lawson L-47 is a great secret weapon as well. |
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Post by drbill on May 17, 2015 20:46:15 GMT -6
It certainly worked for Stevie Nicks! And Devo.....although they weren't girls... :-) The combination of flowerpot hats and 441's was magical on the videos. Yes, the 441 is a vastly under-the-radar mic. Shhhhh...I need more. |
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Post by carymiller on May 17, 2015 20:51:58 GMT -6
Hi guys, turns out we possibly got a female singer at hand for our personal non-commercial electro music project. I didn't hear anything from her yet, my brother talked to her and she might be kind of a nice loud mezzo-sopran with some love for soul. AFAIK she has a background as a live performer in top-40 cover bands with some studio experience for demos. I will co/write vocals for her and try to accomodate for her musical background. So, i thought about if it would be a viable idea to squeeze better recording performance out of her with a more familiar handheld mic instead of a condenser. ;-) The 441 is the best dynamic mic i have. A plus might be it's hypercardiodid character cause room sound and treatment is suboptimal. We originally never planned to record 'real lead vocals' or acoustical instruments in our place. I was also thinking about avoiding headphones and doing the "speaker monitoring" while tracking for better performance. Do you think this could work? Opinions? A 441 was used for lead vocals on every Stevie Nicks record my old boss worked on (Shelly engineered and mixed Bella Donna and several more after that if I'm not mistaken.) He talked about how at the end of the day it was "the mic" for her voice out of practically everything they auditioned for several days. I can't see it sounding bad, but I would shoot out a few mics and see which one "grabs" you. |
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