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Post by mrholmes on Apr 26, 2015 19:21:58 GMT -6
I was to young to play guitar but I have clients caling for that sound.
Most often everything I need in the Studio is my Strat, the Bugera Vintage 5 on a Celestion V30, a Cry-Baby and a Tubescreamer .....and I can do lot of sounds with this combination. The Bugera goes soundwise into the Marshall corner. Now I search for a pedal that gives me that typical 80s overdrive sound...
Wich pedal to buy?
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Post by gouge on Apr 26, 2015 19:43:00 GMT -6
there was good and bad 80's distortion.
boss ds-1 black label or boss hm-2 are pretty good.
then there is the jcm800 cranked sound.
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Post by mobeach on Apr 26, 2015 19:45:04 GMT -6
Try to find an old MXR Distortion +. It's actually a late 70's pedal but a lot of metal guys in the early 80's used them. A Maxon 808 would do the trick but you already have the Tubescreamer.
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Post by gouge on Apr 26, 2015 19:48:14 GMT -6
the cheaper version of the mxr are the vintage ross pedals. not being well known they are cheap.
I reckon they sound better as well but they were pretty much copies. the ross phaser is excellent as well.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 26, 2015 20:08:02 GMT -6
Try to find an old MXR Distortion +. It's actually a late 70's pedal but a lot of metal guys in the early 80's used them. A Maxon 808 would do the trick but you already have the Tubescreamer. For my taste 80s lead guitar distortion is way more dense, the Tubescreamer is nice when blowing an already driven amp a bit more, like SRV did it. |
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Post by swurveman on Apr 26, 2015 20:45:29 GMT -6
When I think of 80's distortion sound I think of Van Halen who defined the 80's sound and everybody else that wanted to sound like him: PAF Humbicking bridge pickup, 100 Watt Marshall Super Lead fully cranked to 11, Variac , Echoplex , MXR Flanger, MXR Phase 90. There's all kinds of pedals that claim to give you that distortion sound, but nothing I've heard nails it. Wish it was as simple as a distortion pedal, but it's not imo. There's all kind of pedals that claim they'll give you that sound. Googling "Van Halen Distortion pedal" in Google Video's search box will give you all kinds of pedals to listen to. Good luck!
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Post by yotonic on Apr 26, 2015 22:10:42 GMT -6
One thing about the 80s is there was a lot of great guitar distortion and some dropped tuning that sowed the seeds of grunge.
Dr. Feelgood by MotleCrue was a killer guitar sound even if you weren't a head banger. The whole LA Sunset a Strip rock scene was built around guitar distortion and most of it was expensive 100 watt heads hot rodded by builders supported by a healthy record industry.
Even if the bands weren't your cup of tea the guitar sounds were better than most junk you hear today. The Marshall JCM800 100 Watt head was the shit (still is) used by bands from Motley Crüe to The Cult and Ministry.
For that 80s hair band sound check out Motley Crüe, Warrant, Poison, Ratt, Cinderella and Bon Jovi. But there was still a lot of other good rock music being made during that period.
Try finding one of those old rack mount preamps Marshall made I think it's called the JMP1
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Post by gouge on Apr 27, 2015 1:21:10 GMT -6
should also mention the jcm cranked thing is the output turned up to 11. not the input.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 27, 2015 4:32:01 GMT -6
A guitarist that I play with on the relay has a Rivera M100 head. There is also a 60 watt version. It does 80's hard rock in spades. Less money than the 800, but has a master volume so you can keep at reasonable volumes. Really, really killer amp if you can try one out.
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Post by jayson on Apr 27, 2015 5:22:34 GMT -6
Depends on what your definition of the 80's sound might be: it could run the gamut from Motley Crue to King Crimson/Talking Heads - Andy Summers to Frank Zappa or Jerry Garcia to Steve Stevens. It's a pretty large canvas, can you be a little more specific? One tone that sticks out for me is the Boss Heavy Medal Pedal or the Proco Rat through a Roland Jazz Chorus amp; seemed like that sound was everywhere in the '80s.
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Post by joelhamilton on Apr 27, 2015 7:19:07 GMT -6
Wampler pinnacle
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 27, 2015 7:19:50 GMT -6
Depends on what your definition of the 80's sound might be: it could run the gamut from Motley Crue to King Crimson/Talking Heads - Andy Summers to Frank Zappa or Jerry Garcia to Steve Stevens. It's a pretty large canvas, can you be a little more specific? One tone that sticks out for me is the Boss Heavy Medal Pedal or the Proco Rat through a Roland Jazz Chorus amp; seemed like that sound was everywhere in the '80s. Smething like in "Black or white" its a special sound of distortion. Or take the D minor 7 arpeggio in "Beat it". Its some kind of lead sound not too distorted but the notes are clear to hear. The Tubescreamer sounds more muddy to me, he is good for a lot things, but he do puts too much midrange into the amp for this kind of distortion. If this is just a JCM cranked - than I have to buy one. Its a distortion that sounds to me clean, an oxymoron, but there is no mud. |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Apr 27, 2015 7:30:46 GMT -6
what was the signal chain of the lead sound used on the main riff of Sweet Child Of Mine? (1989)
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Post by yotonic on Apr 27, 2015 7:46:54 GMT -6
That "Beat It" riff was played by Steve Lukather of Toto. Supposedly a Rivera hot rodded Marshall head.
EVH of course played the lead on an amp that was at the session apparently not his own.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:13:14 GMT -6
The MXR distortion was a great sound of the 80's.
There was a nice rip-off from Coron, the Distortion10, that i can remember beeing very cool. Very ugly color pedal, like old pâté de foie gras, LOL. Nice sound.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:16:16 GMT -6
Btw, it really had the original 741 opamp in it, very shitty. But it was a cool pedal at it's time and we liked it as our guitarists secret weapon into a Marshall stack and a small Kitty Hawk.
The Distortion Plus was an earlier model, if i remember it right, sharing the same ugly optics, also there was an orange version of the Distortion10.
Just found a demo vid.
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Post by winetree on May 23, 2015 23:12:12 GMT -6
Big Muff
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