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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 13, 2015 22:41:30 GMT -6
and it sounds worse than my first mix...Sigh...What throws me a little is that I ran this one back through the Burl on the last step and I felt like it muddied it up...
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Post by gouge on Mar 13, 2015 23:39:25 GMT -6
Mix off??.
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Post by wiz on Mar 14, 2015 0:23:52 GMT -6
and it sounds worse than my first mix...Sigh...What throws me a little is that I ran this one back through the Burl on the last step and I felt like it muddied it up... Frustrating when that happens... often the first "vibe of the thing" you do is best... Can you go back? cheers Wiz |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 14, 2015 0:51:33 GMT -6
first vibe. I definitely don't the mixing expertise of many here but the more laboured my mixes the more I concluded they were wrong
jk were you mixing into the burl the whole time ?
make a copy of mix without burl when you get the svartecus cricket 5000, run the same mix through it, be very curious about your reaction ?
thx !
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 14, 2015 1:31:19 GMT -6
My best mixes usually always come on the first run and if I limit my amount of plugins. It has to do with creativity and getting into a vibe and allowing yourself to escape into the song. I've been so busy with the move to Nashville I haven't mixed anything in months, but I do have a project coming up soon and I'm going to do everything I can to get the client to rent me a room at BlackBird to mix it in, just so I am forced to move quickly and also have the confidence I'm mixing in a great environment.
The tracks are being cut over at Slack Key so the material will be amazing, I love the sound of Randy's rooms, and his gear is top shelf. My thought is that if I can get them to pay for the room at BlackBird it means no turning back and once they are mixed and everyone is happy that day, that's it. I'd bet those will be some of the best mixes I've ever done, I'm pretty stoked.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 3:28:54 GMT -6
Mixeritis.
Start over with minimalistic set of plugs.
This is usually the moment, when i fire up Mixbus and try my best there...
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Post by keymod on Mar 14, 2015 6:02:50 GMT -6
My best mixes usually always come on the first run and if I limit my amount of plugins. It has to do with creativity and getting into a vibe and allowing yourself to escape into the song. I've been so busy with the move to Nashville I haven't mixed anything in months, but I do have a project coming up soon and I'm going to do everything I can to get the client to rent me a room at BlackBird to mix it in, just so I am forced to move quickly and also have the confidence I'm mixing in a great environment. The tracks are being cut over at Slack Key so the material will be amazing, I love the sound of Randy's rooms, and his gear is top shelf. My thought is that if I can get them to pay for the room at BlackBird it means no turning back and once they are mixed and everyone is happy that day, that's it. I'd bet those will be some of the best mixes I've ever done, I'm pretty stoked. Wish I could watch, and listen .... |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 14, 2015 6:46:48 GMT -6
Give it a couple of days and start over on fresh ears.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 14, 2015 7:09:35 GMT -6
If everything fails I aways give my songs friends to mix it... sometimes you are too much connected to the song and you think every element is important. I hope your room acoustics are good? Mixing wont work sitting in a base room mode. First hand experience here. You are judging nothing in this case.
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Post by swurveman on Mar 14, 2015 14:39:21 GMT -6
This made me realize that if I decide to remix something I should bounce the first mix at the same sample/bit rate and import it on a stereo channel outputting to a second stereo output while I do the remix. That way, I can a/b both mixes within the first 20 minutes and see the difference, and keep checking it as I go along. I do this with reference mixes. So, it makes sense to do it with my mix versions as well.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2015 14:42:49 GMT -6
I should save sessions as Mix1,2,3 etc...
I'm about to start new.
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 14, 2015 14:54:54 GMT -6
it helps to write out a mix plan before you do a single thing. What/how much instrumentation, position and panning/field depth/precedent of each element. Once you get that laid out everything else flows easier imo.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2015 17:21:08 GMT -6
Do you really think I'm this organized??
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2015 17:22:53 GMT -6
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Post by gouge on Mar 15, 2015 2:33:00 GMT -6
not sure if it helps but reaper has a projects tab section. not something I use myself but I believe it allows you to do various mixes out of the same pool and keep each version on it's own tab. you can then also render those and output your various mixes.
would be surprised if other daw software didn't have the same feature.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 15, 2015 6:30:20 GMT -6
it helps to write out a mix plan before you do a single thing. What/how much instrumentation, position and panning/field depth/precedent of each element. Once you get that laid out everything else flows easier imo. I kinna do this. Don't write it out, (don't even take notes in meetings like I should  ), but I do this in my mind before I start. |
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Post by wiz on Mar 15, 2015 16:32:07 GMT -6
it helps to write out a mix plan before you do a single thing. What/how much instrumentation, position and panning/field depth/precedent of each element. Once you get that laid out everything else flows easier imo. I kinna do this. Don't write it out, (don't even take notes in meetings like I should ), but I do this in my mind before I start. I do it as I write.. most of the time... As I am a one man show (except sometimes I get someone else to play drums) I have learned how (for the music I write and record) create parts with the final song arrangement (and album structure) in mind. well.... At least I think I do.... shut up... My mom thinks I am cool... 8) cheers Wiz |
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), but I do this in my mind before I start. 