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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 8, 2015 12:38:32 GMT -6
Randy and me was privileged to sit in a room last night and participate in what I consider the best music on the planet. This man right here was there and just killed everybody within earshot. Bradley Walker is awe inspiring. A fine, fine man.
For all that is decent, I'm begging whoever will listen to put material like this back on the radio.
Get em, Bradley...
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 8, 2015 12:50:56 GMT -6
now there is genuine , well crafted and very well played and well produced song, everything in its place in a very musical and yet understated way, yet the song engages you and pulls you right through to the end; speaking of having a little humility; that is how its done !
thx cowboy !
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Post by matt on Feb 8, 2015 13:24:53 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Feb 8, 2015 17:27:47 GMT -6
Classic country is not coming back.
Foghat, Peter Frampton, The Small Faces, Led Zeppelin etc are not coming back to modern rock radio either.
I'm sorry. It's a fact. Deal with it. Get over it. CRY WITH ME ALL ABOUT IT EVEN! But we have to accept reality.
<sobbing>
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Post by Randge on Feb 8, 2015 19:58:28 GMT -6
Sorry, classic country is coming back. I am watching it happen. More and more people are going back to it because they hate what is on the radio so badly. I can use Sturgill Simpson and Moe Pitney as a perfect example of two modern day acts that are going there with more to follow. They are both turning up the heat in Nashville at the moment. I am working with a 22 year old kid that is the best I have heard come along in quite a while as well. He is fully capable of becoming the next Daryl Singletary /Joe Nichols/Kevin Denny/Joe Diffie if he plays his cards right. I had the best of the best session country players in and they all spoke of how much fun the session was because it had some shit on the boot. I start mixing it tomorrow morning and will post more about as it unfolds to the public. Cowboy, Bradley Walker has everything. He is one of my favorite artists and that record was an incredible one to make with Carl at the producer helm. I was super fortunate to play on about 1/2 of the record.
R
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Post by swurveman on Feb 9, 2015 10:54:34 GMT -6
Sorry, classic country is coming back. I am watching it happen. R I think it's going to come down to the up and coming songwriters. Rory Lee Feek is now 49. He grew up listening to Merle Haggard and George Jones and classic country. He is continuing the tradition. However, how many 13 year old Rory Lee Feek's are out there? A few perhaps, but most of the kids that are future songwriters are listening to modern country. Ditto the young country audience. Perhaps they will want to return to 1950's. Who knows? Personally, I think it it will continue to be a small niche market. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 9, 2015 11:21:11 GMT -6
Well here's how I see it, you take song like Chain Of Love that Rory wrote. That song is one that everyone can relate to, from baptist minister to a calloused biker. We all have this inherent bent for kindness deep down. Even assholes have it at some level. We want to be better than we are, all of us do. So that's a song that all relate to, young and old.
And THAT is what country music is. It's music that people relate to. It's music that moves people, makes us want to be better versions of ourselves, music that has the power to loosen up tear ducts that have been dry for years. Like this song of Bradley's, it causes us to want to turn the car around and give a stranger a hand.
This is why I love country music and I loath what the big machine has become. It has no heart. I've decided I for one am absolutely done with modern horse shit. For anything of mine that you guys have heard that even leans toward modern music, I want sincerely apologize. Never again.
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Post by swurveman on Feb 9, 2015 11:58:07 GMT -6
This is why I love country music and I loath what the big machine has become. It has no heart. I've decided I for one am absolutely done with modern horse shit. For anything of mine that you guys have heard that even leans toward modern music, I want sincerely apologize. Never again. I have a funny story: I was at one of those publishing pitch nights in Nashville. The publisher's representatives were around 25 years old. I had written a song called "The Left Hand Corner". In one scene/verse the dad is playing catch with his young son at the little league diamond and he says put the pitch on the left hand corner of the plate. In the second scene/verse the mom goes to the supermarket with the son and says "if you get lost meet me in the left hand corner". The song ends with the kid getting cancer. Before he dies he reassures his mom and dad by telling them he'll be waiting for them in heaven in the left hand corner. I had just witnessed the death of an 18 year old from Leukemia. So, there was a lot of personal experience and heart that unconsciously motivated me to write that song. I thought I'd written about death in a tasteful way. Little did I know. After the song was played, one of the publisher's representative looked at me and said, somewhat scornfully, "a song about the death of a child", as if I'd committed some unforgivable sin. Afterwards, the other representative came up to me and told me he liked the song, but I probably should just play it as a singer songwriter. Somewhere along the line, I suspect when all the privately owned publishers sold to the corporate publishers who were cross pollianted with advertising, country music became an entertainment/escapism business. There are rare exceptions. It's good to see that Rory is still thriving. |
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Post by Randge on Feb 9, 2015 12:12:35 GMT -6
They just don't realize how many funeral homes would buy ad time or it would be a hit.
R
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Post by unit7 on Feb 9, 2015 12:51:14 GMT -6
Love that music!! Just ordered a cd. Thanks Cowboy!
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 9, 2015 12:54:53 GMT -6
Yeah and who among us hasn't experienced death in our families. Something we all relate to.
Here's another great example of one that should've been on the radio but got stuck in album cut land. If this song right here don't move someone, they're hopeless.
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 9, 2015 13:27:25 GMT -6
Sorry, classic country is coming back. I am watching it happen. More and more people are going back to it because they hate what is on the radio so badly. I can use Sturgill Simpson and Moe Pitney as a perfect example of two modern day acts that are going there with more to follow. They are both turning up the heat in Nashville at the moment. I am working with a 22 year old kid that is the best I have heard come along in quite a while as well. He is fully capable of becoming the next Daryl Singletary /Joe Nichols/Kevin Denny/Joe Diffie if he plays his cards right. I had the best of the best session country players in and they all spoke of how much fun the session was because it had some shit on the boot. I start mixing it tomorrow morning and will post more about as it unfolds to the public. Cowboy, Bradley Walker has everything. He is one of my favorite artists and that record was an incredible one to make with Carl at the producer helm. I was super fortunate to play on about 1/2 of the record. R Not to speak for someone else, but I think what Ward is saying is that classic country will never again be the top dog, money making, chart topping thing that it once was. But classic country (like classic blues, bluegrass, soul jazz, big bands, rockabilly etc etc etc) will always have a place in American music. A track of classic American music may occasionally buck the trend and become a hit, but there's no precedent of a style of music re-emerging to become popular again with the public at large. Stylistically, American music moves on at an alarming rate. For me personally, my whole thing is how roots music informs and supports something new. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2015 13:31:16 GMT -6
I don't write stone traditional stuff, but my question is this - why does everything In the country market have to be the same? Pop covers everything from Mumford And Sons to Katy Perry to Kanye West to Bruno Mars. I might not be so offended by bro country if it was sprinkled in with more serious music.
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Post by Randge on Feb 9, 2015 14:30:50 GMT -6
Sorry, classic country is coming back. I am watching it happen. More and more people are going back to it because they hate what is on the radio so badly. I can use Sturgill Simpson and Moe Pitney as a perfect example of two modern day acts that are going there with more to follow. They are both turning up the heat in Nashville at the moment. I am working with a 22 year old kid that is the best I have heard come along in quite a while as well. He is fully capable of becoming the next Daryl Singletary /Joe Nichols/Kevin Denny/Joe Diffie if he plays his cards right. I had the best of the best session country players in and they all spoke of how much fun the session was because it had some shit on the boot. I start mixing it tomorrow morning and will post more about as it unfolds to the public. Cowboy, Bradley Walker has everything. He is one of my favorite artists and that record was an incredible one to make with Carl at the producer helm. I was super fortunate to play on about 1/2 of the record. R Not to speak for someone else, but I think what Ward is saying is that classic country will never again be the top dog, money making, chart topping thing that it once was. But classic country (like classic blues, bluegrass, soul jazz, big bands, rockabilly etc etc etc) will always have a place in American music. A track of classic American music may occasionally buck the trend and become a hit, but there's no precedent of a style of music re-emerging to become popular again with the public at large. Stylistically, American music moves on at an alarming rate. For me personally, my whole thing is how roots music informs and supports something new. I disagree. I think it is coming back in a big way. Nashville will go through a everyone sound like Bruno Mars, and then it will hit. R |
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 9, 2015 15:17:34 GMT -6
Not to speak for someone else, but I think what Ward is saying is that classic country will never again be the top dog, money making, chart topping thing that it once was. But classic country (like classic blues, bluegrass, soul jazz, big bands, rockabilly etc etc etc) will always have a place in American music. A track of classic American music may occasionally buck the trend and become a hit, but there's no precedent of a style of music re-emerging to become popular again with the public at large. Stylistically, American music moves on at an alarming rate. For me personally, my whole thing is how roots music informs and supports something new. I disagree. I think it is coming back in a big way. Nashville will go through a everyone sound like Bruno Mars, and then it will hit. R I guess it's not completely impossible. But just as young black kids don't buy Jimmy Reed records, I don't see young folks en masse buying stuff that sounds like Hank. There have been brief trends that turned back the clock, such as the swing revival with bands like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. But it was more of a dance fad and lasted only a blink of an eye. The question isn't whether classic country is better than what Nashville churns out now--it is, on every level. This is the same debate that Americana musicians have all the time. I just don't see any evidence that the record buying public (if there is one) is ever willing to turn back the clock when it comes to pop music tastes. I think the best that roots musicians can do is carve out a niche audience of folks that really love and support what they do. It's a noble enterprise. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 9, 2015 15:32:23 GMT -6
There will be a shift at some point, in the heyday of hairmetapop their was a band that ripped the needles off the records called Nirvana, remember that?
My buddy recorded this really cool kid named John Spicer recently, i posted pics of us at Steve Vai's studio a while back during AES, his album just dropped, the kid is a huge old school country fan, and loves Merle Haggard. The great news is his album is NOT bro country BS, he's a great singer, a badass player and solid songwriter. I was told recently he signed a deal for 6 of his new tunes to be used in the ABC television series "Resurrection", i think that may be a good sign that there is still room for the good stuff as long as someone brings it? Make no mistake about it, GOOD MUSIC HAS NO GENRE, We'll see what happens...
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Post by ericn on Feb 9, 2015 15:36:39 GMT -6
There is always some market for old school, but in the eyes of radio and LiveNstion that is filled by bring back so and so for a bit then the door shuts.
People don't buy it because they don't hear it and font hear it because they don't buy it.
Bro Country is the modern hair band, it's for guys and gals to feel good about trying to feel good.
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Post by sceneofdarhyme on Feb 9, 2015 15:44:44 GMT -6
A very well known and respected alternative/indie DJ here in Munich started a country/bluegrass etc night last year in his club. (I'd liked to post is play lists, but they are on Spotify, so uhh..) He picked Sturgill Simpson as his album of the year. So if this is possible here, it should be also in the US?
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Post by lpedrum on Feb 9, 2015 15:59:52 GMT -6
A very well known and respected alternative/indie DJ here in Munich started a country/bluegrass etc night last year in his club. (I'd liked to post is play lists, but they are on Spotify, so uhh..) He picked Sturgill Simpson as his album of the year. So if this is possible here, it should be also in the US? All well and good. Just curious though, at what spot did the Sturgill Simpson CD rank in record sales in Munich for 2014? |
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Post by Randge on Feb 9, 2015 18:02:45 GMT -6
People are forgetting the power of Sirius radio and similar worldwide stations via the internet. Artists like myself are able to make a good go of it and build a fan base that is pretty substantial. I am not so sure that those artists aren't doing better than mainstream country artists who have sold themselves to the devil through a 360 deal with a major label, financially speaking. So, at what point do you call it success?
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