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Post by drew571 on Jan 30, 2015 18:18:51 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2015 19:35:20 GMT -6
Definitely couldn't hurt...If you really want to make them something special, send them to Shannon at Mic Rehab...although, the mod would cot more than the mics. BUT, they would sound like $3k mics. Shannon |
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Post by drew571 on Jan 30, 2015 21:41:24 GMT -6
yeah. i'm wondering just trying to get a feel for how much better they would sound with the mod. i used to think they were decent sounding mics. and for some things they still are. i like em on a leslie cabinet, it's nice to get some of that high breathiness. that being said, i just finished a pair of u87's about an hour ago and don't feel the need to have a huge overhaul done to them to get them sounding exactly like 87's. i could see myself spending $120 to make a good improvement though and have something better to rely on when the 87's are in use elsewhere.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 30, 2015 22:32:46 GMT -6
I did the C1 mod -- huge improvement! It was my uncle's mic and he hadn't used it in years because of the harsh top end, and now it's back in his regular rotation. |
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Post by drew571 on Jan 30, 2015 22:41:39 GMT -6
sweet. thanks mdmitch2! i think i'm going to go for it. i need to do a before and after recording!
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 31, 2015 2:08:48 GMT -6
I can tell you that the C3 has the k67 type capsule in it, so this mod designed to get the 87 sound seems like a very good fit. I have a C3 that is modded a little differently, i'm not really into it as it is, and i want to use the K47 capsule somewhere else. I don't have a U87, so i think i'll stick the Neuman k67 capsule i have in it and try this mod out as well.
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Post by Shannon on Jan 31, 2015 15:01:14 GMT -6
Definitely couldn't hurt...If you really want to make them something special, send them to Shannon at Mic Rehab...although, the mod would cot more than the mics. BUT, they would sound like $3k mics. ShannonRemember all MiCS around today are the same, just different stamp. Not meaning bad towards those mics, Remember as well what it takes to go out on your own and to brand a product. The Capsules are even the same in MOST of them. I know that we are able to make it a mic that is perfect but yet not have that ZING and even transplant some balls into it. In the end much more usabl/utilitarian mic. I know that we must did a MK-? ADK that i would have liked to keep for myself. Look at it as a investment instead of spending $4000 it cost you $1500 or ? to get there. Honestly one of the most important reasons i do this is that ( we all know ) that sounding like the big boys take a lot of money. Now those blessed can bring that blessing to other ears  |
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Post by drew571 on Feb 10, 2015 21:53:45 GMT -6
well i completed the mod tonight on both mics. i paused after the first to record against the second and a clone u87. the modded c3 definitely sounds a bit more subdued in the highs than the stock c3, maybe a bit smoother. it doesn't touch the u87. i would say not even close. the bass response isn't there. doesn't have that vintage grainy neumann sound. woulda probably saved my $120 bucks and just sold the mics. oh well, it was a good learning experience and maybe i'll find a use for them somewhere.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 10, 2015 22:29:07 GMT -6
well i completed the mod tonight on both mics. i paused after the first to record against the second and a clone u87. the modded c3 definitely sounds a bit more subdued in the highs than the stock c3, maybe a bit smoother. it doesn't touch the u87. i would say not even close. the bass response isn't there. doesn't have that vintage grainy neumann sound. woulda probably saved my $120 bucks and just sold the mics. oh well, it was a good learning experience and maybe i'll find a use for them somewhere. I'd bet dollars to donuts that if you changed the capsule out to something kick ass, you'd be happy? The reason i say this, is i've built quite a few diy mics, every time i test them with a chinese capsule, and after i verify everything is A-ok, i swap to a Hi Q c12 or blueline or Eric H K67, and it always takes a major performance jump forward at that point. that said, i'm not saying it's going to be as great as your 87, but there is no garbage in that c3 beyond its stock capsule, it's a schoeps circuit plain and simple, i didn't see any crap in the kit from MP either so?? |
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 10, 2015 22:47:17 GMT -6
well i completed the mod tonight on both mics. i paused after the first to record against the second and a clone u87. the modded c3 definitely sounds a bit more subdued in the highs than the stock c3, maybe a bit smoother. it doesn't touch the u87. i would say not even close. the bass response isn't there. doesn't have that vintage grainy neumann sound. woulda probably saved my $120 bucks and just sold the mics. oh well, it was a good learning experience and maybe i'll find a use for them somewhere. Did you dial in the high end with the adjustable pot? When I did the C1, I rolled off a little more highs than the instructions recommended. It held up nicely to a diy u87 clone I compared it to, and was not shy with bass response. Though I'm not familiar with the differences between the C1 and C3, so that could certainly be a factor. |
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Post by drew571 on Feb 11, 2015 13:04:58 GMT -6
C3 is different from C1 in that it has figure 8 and omni polar patterns as well. other than that, they're the same mic.
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Post by drew571 on Feb 11, 2015 13:06:01 GMT -6
C3 is different from C1 in that it has figure 8 and omni polar patterns as well. other than that, they're the same mic. where did the little arrow end up pointing on the pot? it was recommended to leave it at 9 o'clock. but i'd be interested in trying what you did. |
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 11, 2015 13:23:01 GMT -6
Pretty sure I set mine at 10 -- there was a pretty big difference between 9 and 10.
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Post by jimwilliams on Feb 12, 2015 9:59:26 GMT -6
Such is the nature of using a linear taper trim pot to do a frequency shift, a reverse log taper would make it very smooth but those are not made in trimpots. Therefore, all the action happens at the last 1/4 turn.
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