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Post by drew571 on Jan 29, 2015 18:08:03 GMT -6
So this isn't meant to be a "which one is better" thread. I've got 4 VP28's already and they're great. I'm in the market to probably get several more and am taking the opportunity to look at other options at the same time. I'd be interested to know the forum member's take on the aml vs vp28 that have experience with both. I'm wondering if the ez1073 has something to offer that i can't get with the vp28. They are a lot more money and I could probably have at least 2 vp28's for the price of one ez1073. That being said, they're not really that much more when you consider you're getting an eq as well.
Thoughts?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 29, 2015 18:12:50 GMT -6
So this isn't meant to be a "which one is better" thread. I've got 4 VP28's already and they're great. I'm in the market to probably get several more and am taking the opportunity to look at other options at the same time. I'd be interested to know the forum member's take on the aml vs vp28 that have experience with both. I'm wondering if the ez1073 has something to offer that i can't get with the vp28. They are a lot more money and I could probably have at least 2 vp28's for the price of one ez1073. That being said, they're not really that much more when you consider you're getting an eq as well.
Thoughts? Having experience with both Neve and API, I would love to have both flavors. If one doesn't work, the other will. Don't need much more than those two. Add a hifi option and you've got a full boat. |
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Post by drew571 on Jan 29, 2015 18:17:46 GMT -6
hifi option as in john hardy or millenia flavor?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 29, 2015 19:11:39 GMT -6
hifi option as in john hardy or millenia flavor? I haven't used a Hardy, but I'm one of the few guys that will admit to loving Millenia and Grace pres. I really like those super clean pres on overheads and clean acoustic. The True preamps, on the other hand, I didn't jive with personally. |
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Post by Randge on Jan 29, 2015 19:32:42 GMT -6
RTZ will take you to a sweet spot between hifi and vintage Neve. The Ingram 685, True systems PT-2 or Forrsell SMP-2 would give you some different voices. Also an AEA RPQ is handy to have. I use the line function with those for my more vintage tube pres for the highpass filter, different gain stages and the air band they have. They are also really great on their own. I usually pair a vintage RCA 44 with mine.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2015 20:26:45 GMT -6
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 29, 2015 20:29:46 GMT -6
I have an AML 1073ez. It will defiantly give you something that other Neve press won't. It's straight up gritty, in a nice way and the eq is excellent. It's a great pre.
I have a lot of Neve flavors but no Capi yet. I might be interested in working out a trade if you are??
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 29, 2015 20:32:21 GMT -6
RTZ will take you to a sweet spot between hifi and vintage Neve. The Ingram 685, True systems PT-2 or Forrsell SMP-2 would give you some different voices. Also an AEA RPQ is handy to have. I use the line function with those for my more vintage tube pres for the highpass filter, different gain stages and the air band they have. They are also really great on their own. I usually pair a vintage RCA 44 with mine. R I do this same thing with my RPQ. Just love it. Probably the cleanest pre I've owned. I had a Martech and it was clean, but not this clean. |
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 29, 2015 21:57:04 GMT -6
So this isn't meant to be a "which one is better" thread. I've got 4 VP28's already and they're great. I'm in the market to probably get several more and am taking the opportunity to look at other options at the same time. I'd be interested to know the forum member's take on the aml vs vp28 that have experience with both. I'm wondering if the ez1073 has something to offer that i can't get with the vp28. They are a lot more money and I could probably have at least 2 vp28's for the price of one ez1073. That being said, they're not really that much more when you consider you're getting an eq as well.
Thoughts? , they're different enough to have both. Both are excellent… IMO, the VP28 is the best "api sound" option other than getting a vintage console. As for the 1073 sound, I love the ez1073 and find it useful on many sources. I primarily record vocals and guitars. It's hard to beat the midrange punch of the VP28 on egtrs. If you want to smooth out the mids a bit, the ez1073 does that well along with a slightly rounder low end. Same goes for vocals. VP is gonna cut thru better, ez is gonna be a bit smoother. Generalizations, mind you. You may already know this, but you can widen your tonal palette with different DOA choices in the VP28. My personal favorite combo is 1731/2520. Hope this helps. Btw, if you're up for it… get the 19" rack kit from AML, knobs from jsteiger at Capi and cases from dandeurloo. Not much more money than the 500 series and they look badd ass. |
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Post by jsteiger on Jan 29, 2015 22:07:37 GMT -6
I have a lot of Neve flavors but no Capi yet. Huh??  |
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Post by ericn on Jan 29, 2015 22:22:44 GMT -6
CAPI and Neve flavored play very well here I have 8 ch of Dan Alexander's recreation of 1272's and 5 of the VP26s it would be 8 but I'm thinking 8 Heiders !
In my world CAPI Neve Clean or Tube one of them is going to hit the mark!
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Post by drew571 on Jan 29, 2015 22:26:15 GMT -6
I have an AML 1073ez. It will defiantly give you something that other Neve press won't. It's straight up gritty, in a nice way and the eq is excellent. It's a great pre. I have a lot of Neve flavors but no Capi yet. I might be interested in working out a trade if you are??
Cowboy, which version do you have? 500 or rack? and PM me your idea for a trade. i may be interested. |
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Post by drew571 on Jan 29, 2015 22:28:25 GMT -6
littlesicily, do you put the 1731 first and the 2520 last in the chain on your vp28? I have them the other way around currently. Might have to try flipping a couple.
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Post by jsteiger on Jan 29, 2015 22:35:26 GMT -6
My best guess tells me that cowboycoalminer with be getting a CAPI Heider after next Saturdays shindig. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 29, 2015 22:55:25 GMT -6
I have a lot of Neve flavors but no Capi yet. Huh?? I know!! Still trying to psych myself up for the build. About all the soldering I do is cables  |
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2015 23:03:24 GMT -6
I have both and agree with littlesicily. One must have both if you want to cover the bases. IMO, the EQ makes it worthwhile no matter the difference in the per's. But yeah, API and NEVE. The perfect compliment. You need both and those two choices are the best of what's available today at non vintage insane prices.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 29, 2015 23:55:03 GMT -6
I have to say that the vp28 is my fav of all time. I do want some 1073 PRE'S for the big bottom, so i will probably build a pair of Dons classics NV73's with true 24volts(no voltage dividers like ALL the rest of the 500 series nevalikes, but you can only do that if you use a 51x box). But as far as the 1073 eq, I shot out an AML1073 against the capi lc53 eq, and IMO it wasn't that much of a fight, the LC53 hammered the 1073 which sounded phasey and noisy compared to the pure musicality of the LC53. I didn't own either at that time, and even though i fully expected the legendary 1073 to win out, it was exactly the opposite, of course that is JMO, YMMV.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 29, 2015 23:58:22 GMT -6
littlesicily, do you put the 1731 first and the 2520 last in the chain on your vp28? I have them the other way around currently. Might have to try flipping a couple. i run my 2520 on the input stage and the 1731 on the output like you, this is my fav combo to date. |
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 30, 2015 0:04:05 GMT -6
littlesicily, do you put the 1731 first and the 2520 last in the chain on your vp28? I have them the other way around currently. Might have to try flipping a couple. 2520 pre 1731 post like you already have. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2015 17:11:10 GMT -6
Huh?? I know!! Still trying to psych myself up for the build. About all the soldering I do is cables Joel Phillips will build them for $100...it might even be cheaper...can't remember |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2015 17:12:53 GMT -6
I must add in yet another flavor to have - Helios. Different than API and Neve.
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Post by Randge on Jan 30, 2015 22:02:23 GMT -6
It's an audio Baskin Robbins up in here!
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Post by drew571 on Feb 1, 2015 18:39:14 GMT -6
So this isn't meant to be a "which one is better" thread. I've got 4 VP28's already and they're great. I'm in the market to probably get several more and am taking the opportunity to look at other options at the same time. I'd be interested to know the forum member's take on the aml vs vp28 that have experience with both. I'm wondering if the ez1073 has something to offer that i can't get with the vp28. They are a lot more money and I could probably have at least 2 vp28's for the price of one ez1073. That being said, they're not really that much more when you consider you're getting an eq as well.
Thoughts? , they're different enough to have both. Both are excellent… IMO, the VP28 is the best "api sound" option other than getting a vintage console. As for the 1073 sound, I love the ez1073 and find it useful on many sources. I primarily record vocals and guitars. It's hard to beat the midrange punch of the VP28 on egtrs. If you want to smooth out the mids a bit, the ez1073 does that well along with a slightly rounder low end. Same goes for vocals. VP is gonna cut thru better, ez is gonna be a bit smoother. Generalizations, mind you. You may already know this, but you can widen your tonal palette with different DOA choices in the VP28. My personal favorite combo is 1731/2520. Hope this helps. Btw, if you're up for it… get the 19" rack kit from AML, knobs from jsteiger at Capi and cases from dandeurloo. Not much more money than the 500 series and they look badd ass. Is there a link for the dandeurloo cases? Pricing? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 1, 2015 19:27:55 GMT -6
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