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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 14, 2015 17:04:52 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 14, 2015 17:06:36 GMT -6
Can only use either or though. Not pre into comp. Looks great though.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 14, 2015 17:14:46 GMT -6
Bummer...but I guess that keeps the pricepoint down? Anyway, it's kind've killer to be getting two things for basically the price of one...I guess track, then hit with the 2264 in the mix. Not that big of a deal. Is the Link for using another unit for stereo?
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 14, 2015 17:26:47 GMT -6
that screams of SSL buss compressor...?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 14, 2015 17:27:14 GMT -6
Bummer...but I guess that keeps the pricepoint down? Anyway, it's kind've killer to be getting two things for basically the price of one...I guess track, then hit with the 2264 in the mix. Not that big of a deal. Is the Link for using another unit for stereo? I agree. Bummer. If the circuitry is there, I don't know why you can't use both. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 14, 2015 17:28:24 GMT -6
Can only use either or though. Not pre into comp. Looks great though. it occupies 2 spaces, a patch from one to the other accomplishes the same thing in a second no? Also, what the "link" button for if not to "link" one side to the other? |
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Post by baquin on Jan 14, 2015 17:40:07 GMT -6
I thought the link was for linking the comp with the micpre...kinda makes sense...kinda. It seems a great piece though.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 14, 2015 18:07:05 GMT -6
ok, now i see the comp ratio and mic gain knob are the SAME knob, i thought i saw a dual concentric knob the first time i looked at it, so i guess you cant control both at the same time... kinda weird. If that is the case, i'd call it an unfortunate design limitation as each looks indepently controlled otherwise. Taking up 2 spaces with only one output is a bummer in 500 series stuff imo. I'm gathering the "link" is there to couple it to another one of the same.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 14, 2015 18:12:00 GMT -6
Wouldn't there have to be more parts-eses ie, trannies, etc. if they were to be used at the same time? Isn't the 2254/64 basically the 1073 class A circuit? So if you were gonna use both of them at the same time, you would need two circuits, right? I kinda think it's a neat idea. It's priced the same as the Neve 2264LB, BUT you get the ability to use it as a mic pre as well. Think of it as a 2264 compressor with an awesome bonus.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 14, 2015 18:57:55 GMT -6
Wouldn't there have to be more parts-eses ie, trannies, etc. if they were to be used at the same time? Isn't the 2254/64 basically the 1073 class A circuit? So if you were gonna use both of them at the same time, you would need two circuits, right? I kinda think it's a neat idea. It's priced the same as the Neve 2264LB, BUT you get the ability to use it as a mic pre as well. Think of it as a 2264 compressor with an awesome bonus. Agreed. Track with the pre, mix with the comp. I'm much more likely to buy this than just a pre now. A pair of these in their 4 space rack would be cool. |
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Post by baquin on Jan 14, 2015 22:04:35 GMT -6
...If that is the case, i'd call it an unfortunate design limitation as each looks indepently controlled otherwise. Taking up 2 spaces with only one output is a bummer in 500 series stuff imo. Thats the main reason I sold my Great River 500 pre. I liked its sound and certainly there was no compromise. But, I felt a lost in real state...and then I stumbled on CAPI. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 31, 2015 21:55:09 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Apr 1, 2015 7:35:54 GMT -6
I do get the idea, and see the dual use as a selling point, but not being able to use both at once pissing off buyers!
Thus a hard sell.
Sounds like something Tascam or Fostex would have tried in the 80s, without the Neve sonics and price!
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Post by svart on Apr 1, 2015 7:43:49 GMT -6
The Neve 2254 compressor has the same amp circuit as the 1272/(1073 without a 3rd stage) so it can give you up to around 55dB of gain, so this is an easy way to get both.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 1, 2015 7:45:03 GMT -6
Warhead, I really appreciate the work you do, but for the love of all that is holy, give me a little more bypass action in these videos.  I'd love to see you adjust the settings, let it play for a second, hit the bypass for a couple seconds, then back on. Then adjust the settings and repeat the bypass procedure. I'm sure I'm not alone in this either.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 1, 2015 7:46:27 GMT -6
The Neve 2254 compressor has the same amp circuit as the 1272/(1073 without a 3rd stage) so it can give you up to around 55dB of gain, so this is an easy way to get both. The had to make the unit doublewide to fit what they wanted to fit, so with the components already there, it's like you're getting a bonus. It's a welcome addition for me. I'd love to grab one of these and kill 2 birds with one stone. Get some Neve pre action for the way in and a nice comp for mixdown. Edit: svart, I'm agreeing with your sentiment here, if it's not obvious. |
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Post by svart on Apr 1, 2015 8:09:18 GMT -6
The Neve 2254 compressor has the same amp circuit as the 1272/(1073 without a 3rd stage) so it can give you up to around 55dB of gain, so this is an easy way to get both. The had to make the unit doublewide to fit what they wanted to fit, so with the components already there, it's like you're getting a bonus. It's a welcome addition for me. I'd love to grab one of these and kill 2 birds with one stone. Get some Neve pre action for the way in and a nice comp for mixdown. Edit: svart, I'm agreeing with your sentiment here, if it's not obvious. The 2254 has 2x input transformers(one as input, one as intermediate) and a large output transformer, so those constitute the majority of the bulk of the design. You can see how big the circuit is in my (dual mono) hackjob:  So I can believe that it was still hard to get it to fit in a 2x 500 panel. The one I built has bypass switches so i can use my unit as an amp for color, etc, too. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 8, 2015 11:58:56 GMT -6
Anyone using this thing yet?
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Post by b0b0 on Sept 30, 2015 7:52:10 GMT -6
I too am wondering...anyone using one of these?
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 30, 2015 10:54:38 GMT -6
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Sept 30, 2015 12:01:42 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 30, 2015 12:16:39 GMT -6
Well, not if you want to buy one that does both. I think the AML and this unit are about the same price...Of course, it's either-or.
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Post by b0b0 on Sept 30, 2015 13:14:56 GMT -6
Indeed... I have 2 of the AML 1073's, but am intrigued by the Heritage for a travel-rig / lunch box. I like the idea of their flexibility, and then being able to bring them into the studio when added pre's or comps are needed (ie. for drums).
What's not useful to me however is if in the end the product get's 80% of the way there for both functions...in that case, there are other single-slot pre's and comps that may be a better choice.
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Post by b0b0 on Sept 30, 2015 13:15:53 GMT -6
...oh, and thanks for the welcome Johnkenn I've been lurking for a while, though this may indeed have been my first post! Cheers! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 30, 2015 17:35:25 GMT -6
It has been a while since I've owned the 73jr, but I really liked it. No flies on it whatsoever.
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I'd love to see you adjust the settings, let it play for a second, hit the bypass for a couple seconds, then back on. Then adjust the settings and repeat the bypass procedure. I'm sure I'm not alone in this either.
