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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 2, 2014 8:14:33 GMT -6
I found one of these and I can buy it for 1600. Was thisodel built at the Fullerton factory or Japan?? Plays and sounds like a dream. Tweed case, the works.
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 2, 2014 8:32:10 GMT -6
I found one of these and I can buy it for 1600. Was thisodel built at the Fullerton factory or Japan?? Plays and sounds like a dream. Tweed case, the works. I'm not sure where it was built. There was a period in the mid-80s when everything Fender was produced in Japan wile they sorted out their ownership changes. I believe by 89 they were making stuff in the US again. However, if it sounds and plays like a dream, who cares where it was built? I kinda laugh at the folks who don't want to buy a Mexican Fender but drool all over the one from the 50s. That were mostly made by Mexicans. A good guitar is a good guitar is all I'm saying. I don't know if that's a good value or not. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by popmann on Dec 2, 2014 8:32:35 GMT -6
Seems like not far below new prices. Did they stop making the 52 when they retooled the AmVintage line?
I used to use the 52ri as the baseline you could pick up in mostly any music store to approximate a good tele. I bought mine when i picked it up and it smoked the 52.
Anyway--point is, there's nothing magical about the 52RI. It's a good guitar. In that price range, Bill Nash will kill it....but, it'll look run over by a truck--not sure why he insists on that, but I can't argue that he makes the best "vintage Fenders" around. Last I looked they sat in that $1500-2k range.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 2, 2014 8:46:37 GMT -6
I once had a student who had no limits on what he could afford for a guitar. We tried at least 15-20 Stratocasters at Sam Ash, here in NYC. I picked two out of the litter, not knowing or caring to look at the pedigree. One was a Mexican Strat selling for $339, the other a custom shop model at $1800. He said, well. might as well get the $339 if you think they're comparable.
I judge guitars this way, if it's perfect, I have to buy it, no matter the cost. I've encountered less than ten perfect guitars in all my time playing, bought five of them, still have two.
If it's right, buy it cowboy, you'll never stop thinking about it if you don't.
Any room for negotiation on the price?
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 2, 2014 8:58:37 GMT -6
Did a quick search and if has a serial number beginning with E8 or E9 plus 5 digits it was built in Corona (not Fullerton) - but still US made. And yeah, price seemed a bit high to me as well.
That being said, I'd take a Kirn or a Rutters (and others) over a Nash any day. Nash's are Allparts (necks at least - not sure who he uses for bodies) with run of the mill hardware and good pickups. I've played some that were great players and more that were meh (had a dealer within a five minute walk of me so played a bunch) but the relicing was, uh, easy to tell it wasn't natural wear. So, play before buying would be prudent. You could roll your own from places like Musikraft, USA Custom, Guitar Mill, Warmoth, and yes, Allparts for about what that Tele is going for. Add some good hardware (Callaham, Glendale, Rutters) and whatever pickups and you'd come in around what that Tele is asking. Would it be better than that one though? You wouldn't know until you got it assembled and set up.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 2, 2014 9:07:52 GMT -6
Plays and sounds like a dream. That's all that matters. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 2, 2014 9:34:18 GMT -6
Yeah it's in practically new condition. Looks like one that somebody bought for their kid to learn on and has sat in the case all this time. Jumbo frets with zero wear.
I'll probably buy it. It was one of those things when I picked it up and played it, it just felt perfect on my hands.
Damn thing is a boat anchor and a back breaker though. I'd need a wide strap for playing live.
I've noticed some correlation between weight of telecasters and their sound. Seems the heavier they are the better they sound. To me anyway.
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Post by matt on Dec 2, 2014 9:39:21 GMT -6
I love a good Tele, the right one can be magical. Mine is an American Vintage '52 and the only thing I changed was to add a compensated saddle.
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Post by popmann on Dec 2, 2014 10:06:52 GMT -6
I agree that mostly all that matters is how it plays and sounds to you.
I wouldn't buy a heavy guitar today...way too old for that shit. I actually think the opposite about the sound....but, are you sure your relationship isn't whether the body is ash or Alder? That makes a big difference. Weight....not so much. Meaning, an ash will consistently sound/respond differently than alder--heavy and light I've never found any consistent difference. But, if you're not paying attention to the wood type--Ash will be both the lightest AND heaviest Fenders.
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Post by jimwilliams on Dec 2, 2014 10:15:30 GMT -6
Too much money for that guitar. I got a Custom Shop made in Mexico Tele for $500. Ash body, not heavy, same neck and hardware, same pickups. Easily competes against the best from Fender.
I had a choice: Do I want my tele made by Mexicans in Ensenada or made by Mexicans in Corona?
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 2, 2014 10:32:33 GMT -6
Some argue the lighter (7lbs and under)the guitar the better the tone, some argue heavy, which do u think it is? I know a guy who has a 1955 les paul(real deal), very light 1 piece mahogany, and unreal tone, I had a tele that I regret selling that was feathery alder and chimey as hell. Another bud has a 67 strat, sounds crazy good=light...
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 2, 2014 12:05:05 GMT -6
I like mine on the light end of things. I doubt I have a Tele much more than 7 - 7 1/2 lbs. My Esquire is under 6 1/2. they all sound pretty good to me. I do have good aftermarket pickups in them though (Fred Stuarts, Ron Ellis, Don Mare, Zhangliqun, and Wolfetone (P90s)). I will add that Japanese Teles were produced at that time, including something called a Standard Tele, whatever that means. I don't see the 52 RI being MIJ at that time. See also this: Fender Serial nos.
Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 2, 2014 16:52:56 GMT -6
I bought it. Got him down to 1450. I'm in love.
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Post by mrholmes on Dec 2, 2014 17:24:13 GMT -6
Cant speak for the Tele but my 89 Japan Strat plays and sounds like a dream since I bought it in 89.
Some people at the guitar store loved the sound of it an wanted to give me 2K in Euros.
I just can say have fun with her…
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 2, 2014 22:00:50 GMT -6
Till death do us part
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 2, 2014 22:39:53 GMT -6
Stunning! Love the grain. But then again, I'm kinda partial to the Blackguard look. Do you Tele (especially blackguard lovers) know about this: Blackguard Book - Early Tele PORN It is incredible. At one point this link would let you go over to see the guitars section and see some of the photos from the book.No longer, but hopefully the couple pics there give you some idea. It is not inexpensive, and only available via Elderly. But it weighs more than any of my actual Teles (not exaggerating) and the photography is uknbelievable. Here's the author\s other Tele page: Telecaster Planet that has a few more pics of the same style and quality (albeit small). If you love Teles check 'em out! No affiliation other than I am a proud owner of the Blackguard book and think it's worth every penny. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by mrholmes on Dec 3, 2014 22:49:05 GMT -6
A Blond one nice I like the blonds as well…..
You wrote its like new!
How is the fret work?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 3, 2014 23:36:12 GMT -6
Great news cowboy, congratulations ! I once owned a 51 Esquire, sold it to pay rent. Think I made a mistake, you betcha. Hold on to that baby if you love it, all the features are just interesting, what's important is how it sounds and feels, that's it, period.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 4, 2014 5:00:39 GMT -6
that's a classic; glad yu got it, when you feel that way about a guitar; that is what counts !! I think you will dig the bigger frets, yu can dig in more some guy from texas stevie ray somebodyorother kind of linked his strat that way I think  |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 6, 2014 12:41:45 GMT -6
What a difference the right guitar makes. I've never been happier with a tone. db.tt/tBpRMKnK |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 6, 2014 12:49:23 GMT -6
Um...you gotta save up for this MK-U47 in case I don't like it |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 6, 2014 12:53:53 GMT -6
What a difference the right guitar makes. I've never been happier with a tone. db.tt/tBpRMKnKSo - what you're saying is that I need to toss my cheap guitars and just get one nice one? I can't swing buying multiple expensive EG's, so I'd have to pick one. Almost think if I had to have one, I would go with humbuckers, though. I've always loved Strats, but with my level of playing...(clearing throat)...the dirtier the better BTW - cowboycoalminer were those the Fairfax drums? I'm just listening on the laptop, but they sound fantastic. If it IS Fairfax, I'm begging you for that preset. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 6, 2014 12:59:19 GMT -6
What a difference the right guitar makes. I've never been happier with a tone. db.tt/tBpRMKnKsounds cool! if can't find your snare drum later, look inside that compressor you used in that clip 8) |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 6, 2014 13:06:53 GMT -6
Um...you gotta save up for this MK-U47 in case I don't like it I'm not worried you won't like it... |
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