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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 26, 2014 9:39:46 GMT -6
I recently listened to tracks I'd uploaded on my website a long time ago, and they sounded like they were under water. I just listened to a WAV file I posted on Soundcloud only a few days ago, and the sound is changing to something that sounds like wow and flutter. What's going on? Can I prevent it from happening?
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Post by popmann on Aug 26, 2014 10:55:24 GMT -6
well, start with, soundcloud is 128kbps mp3. Doesn't matter what you upload....except that if you don't give them a WAV or EXACTLY what they want, they're transcoding. Bad.
Are you saying you've downloaded your own website files and the files are corrupt? If not--I'd assume the host has implemented some sort of streaming "optimization" on the back end--it see a 16/44 WAV and immediately, in real time makes it a mp3 of whatever bitrate there is bandwidth available. If the files themselves have changed. Resore them from a back up and set yourself a reminder to check them. See if the provider keeps corrupting them...or if it's a fluke.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 26, 2014 11:53:46 GMT -6
well, start with, soundcloud is 128kbps mp3. Doesn't matter what you upload....except that if you don't give them a WAV or EXACTLY what they want, they're transcoding. Bad. Are you saying you've downloaded your own website files and the files are corrupt? If not--I'd assume the host has implemented some sort of streaming "optimization" on the back end--it see a 16/44 WAV and immediately, in real time makes it a mp3 of whatever bitrate there is bandwidth available. If the files themselves have changed. Resore them from a back up and set yourself a reminder to check them. See if the provider keeps corrupting them...or if it's a fluke. holy crap thats bad..., people are probably uploading 128 and then having it transcodestroyeded? what a drag, i wonder if they'll ever pull their heads out, at least youtube has HD, so you'd think these guys could up the game at least a little? |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 26, 2014 12:19:26 GMT -6
Thanks popmann, I think my website host has messed with it. I'll contact them, ask for info, and upload all my album tracks again, ugh.. isn't that fun. Man, I thought Soundcloud left files alone. Why bother loading a WAV file if they're going to dumb it down.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 26, 2014 13:01:26 GMT -6
Here is your answer to all those sound degrading formats....
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Post by popmann on Aug 26, 2014 13:44:32 GMT -6
Thanks popmann, I think my website host has messed with it. I'll contact them, ask for info, and upload all my album tracks again, ugh.. isn't that fun. Man, I thought Soundcloud left files alone. Why bother loading a WAV file if they're going to dumb it down. Well, actually, that's better than uploading a 256mp3 and having them transcode it down to 128. One of the things I found interesting about this talk was all the talk of transcoding...and how Amazon does things like LPF 15khz on the way into their encoder...which might explain why I think Apple's AACs sound exponentially better than Amazon mp3--and yet my OWN mp3s AAC is just "a little better"....if they're going from 24/88 directly to AAC and Amazon is ripping the redbook CD and THEN lopping off everything north of 15khz on the way in...wow...no wonder every time I get Amazon mp3s (via Autorip) I think "why do people PAY for this crap?".... Bandcamp, I thought did a nice job. I uploaded only the 24/88 of the new stuff....they did all the conversion down--and I think the stream sounds "fine"...it's obviously an mp3, and not a high bit rate one....but, I don't feel like there's any swishing or weird artifacts....then again-I don't spend much time listening to my 128 stream. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 26, 2014 15:50:11 GMT -6
Thanks for posting mrholmes, that's a long video, i'll have to finish watching it later, a friend's doing a gig at the Rockwood Music Hall's big stage tonight, and I gotta leave in a minute to show support.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 27, 2014 13:18:59 GMT -6
Thanks for posting mrholmes, that's a long video, i'll have to finish watching it later, a friend's doing a gig at the Rockwood Music Hall's big stage tonight, and I gotta leave in a minute to show support. Is long and very interesting too. |
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