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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 10:35:21 GMT -6
Still loving your Bricasti M7?
It is a sincere question for those who have been using it awhile. It's not a new question, but its relevant for me in 2024.
I have been on the fence with this for years and the past month keeping revisiting the site. When it was initially released I had so many other hardware verbs, I just decided to wait it out. I did sell most of my hardware verbs over the past 2 years.
I have been using the LX480 and I have had the UA EMT140 for many years. I have the original IR impulses from Samplicity many years ago and occasionally load them into REVerence. They sound great, but I am not overwhelmed with them.
Just looking for insights and perspectives from those who are far past the honeymoon stages.
Thank you!
FM
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Post by drbill on Apr 9, 2024 10:52:01 GMT -6
Kind of a silly question from my perspective. Still in the racks here. The things it does for me, nothing else can touch.
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Post by stevenlmorgan on Apr 9, 2024 10:54:04 GMT -6
Seven years with the M7 and, despite buying and trying many reverb plug-ins, for my preferences, hardware M7 in parallel still has a perfect record.
I don’t even go too far beyond presets as there are so many and, dialing in the amount of parallel reverb is extremely effective.
Btw, anytime I work with a plug-in, I use it the same way, create a send to create parallel, 100% wet reverb and dial in the amount with the fader.
Most recently I liked the latest FabFilter plug with some of the new capabilities but, during final comparison, I chose the M7.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 9, 2024 11:48:33 GMT -6
Yep. It's the best. Only thing that I use instead of it is a real life chamber of our hall.
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 9, 2024 14:06:21 GMT -6
Yes I use 2 on every mix,
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Post by guitfiddler on Apr 9, 2024 14:07:56 GMT -6
I wish I had two! Nothing does what this does! One of my favorite pieces still after several years!
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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 14:08:39 GMT -6
Kind of a silly question from my perspective. Still in the racks here. The things it does for me, nothing else can touch. Thanks drbill. I appreciate the reply. I do understand it may sound silly for those who really get value from it, but alot of people sold theirs. Matters not, for me, I just want to add that last small % I can't get from my current selections and I am very much about long term relationships with gear and value those perspectives from those who have been utilizing it for this long! |
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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 14:09:19 GMT -6
I wish I had two! Nothing does what this does! One of my favorite pieces still after several years! LOL, well you kind of make it easy to see!! |
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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 14:11:54 GMT -6
Seven years with the M7 and, despite buying and trying many reverb plug-ins, for my preferences, hardware M7 in parallel still has a perfect record. I don’t even go too far beyond presets as there are so many and, dialing in the amount of parallel reverb is extremely effective. Btw, anytime I work with a plug-in, I use it the same way, create a send to create parallel, 100% wet reverb and dial in the amount with the fader. Most recently I liked the latest FabFilter plug with some of the new capabilities but, during final comparison, I chose the M7. Thank you. Seven years, M7, yeah I appreciate that! What are you running DAW wise? |
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Post by christophert on Apr 9, 2024 14:38:06 GMT -6
Yes I use 2 on every mix, I use two M7s on every mix as well. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 9, 2024 15:01:47 GMT -6
So, just to be the contrarian in the room...I'd love to try one of these again, but my last run with it made me feel like it wasn't a big enough ROI. I just felt at the time, nobody was going to be able to tell...like no one is gonna walk up to me and say, "damn, dude...I heard that Bricasti you put on the snare..."
I mean, maybe if I used one day in day out, I'd feel the same - but I guess we all have our different things we would or wouldn't live without.
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Post by drbill on Apr 9, 2024 15:11:57 GMT -6
Kind of a silly question from my perspective. Still in the racks here. The things it does for me, nothing else can touch. Thanks drbill. I appreciate the reply. I do understand it may sound silly for those who really get value from it, but alot of people sold theirs. Matters not, for me, I just want to add that last small % I can't get from my current selections and I am very much about long term relationships with gear and value those perspectives from those who have been utilizing it for this long! The box does so many things exceptionally well....but even if the box did only one thing - putting reverb on mastered final mixes - there are a couple patches at low ratios during mastering that would make it worth twice the money. It's like freaking magic. I've had so many clients say that to me - and I never tell them how I do it - so shhhhhhhh.......  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 9, 2024 15:12:58 GMT -6
Am I remembering correctly that Wiz has an m7, with his switch to UA, wonder how he views the m7 vs plug question.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 9, 2024 15:14:17 GMT -6
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Post by nudwig on Apr 9, 2024 15:25:14 GMT -6
I'm 8 years in with mine. I've toyed with selling it as with some longer duration projects I'll skip it so I can offline bounce but then when I do use it I'm reminded why I keep it. If you do get an M7 I recommend getting a plugin controller for it, makes life really easy. I admit that John has a point, probably no one would notice if I slipped in the Liquidsonics version when using it as a send but Bill also has a point that you can use tiny ammounts on a full mix and it does magic.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 9, 2024 15:28:26 GMT -6
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Post by wiz on Apr 9, 2024 15:59:50 GMT -6
Am I remembering correctly that Wiz has an m7, with his switch to UA, wonder how he views the m7 vs plug question. Still have it….on every mix. I have done extensive shoot outs with it against plug in versions of it. They aren’t as good imho….. if you can afford it …..demo it cheers Wiz |
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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 16:39:41 GMT -6
Thanks drbill. I appreciate the reply. I do understand it may sound silly for those who really get value from it, but alot of people sold theirs. Matters not, for me, I just want to add that last small % I can't get from my current selections and I am very much about long term relationships with gear and value those perspectives from those who have been utilizing it for this long! The box does so many things exceptionally well....but even if the box did only one thing - putting reverb on mastered final mixes - there are a couple patches at low ratios during mastering that would make it worth twice the money. It's like freaking magic. I've had so many clients say that to me - and I never tell them how I do it - so shhhhhhhh....... This really helps me get off the fence, appreciate it! |
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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 16:44:39 GMT -6
So, just to be the contrarian in the room...I'd love to try one of these again, but my last run with it made me feel like it wasn't a big enough ROI. I just felt at the time, nobody was going to be able to tell...like no one is gonna walk up to me and say, "damn, dude...I heard that Bricasti you put on the snare..." I mean, maybe if I used one day in day out, I'd feel the same - but I guess we all have our different things we would or wouldn't live without. Yeah I understand John. The dialogues here are really happening in the last few %. It's true the listener in the remaining 95% won't know and I full appreciate the ROI with specialized gear. truth be told some plugin verbs are just fanstastic. That said, I feel it is always a game of tiny micro improvements stacked up for me. That seems like the reality with all gear that covers the fundamental well and covers the last inch of the mile as well. I welcome all the support I can get |
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Post by FM77 on Apr 9, 2024 16:46:37 GMT -6
I'm 8 years in with mine. I've toyed with selling it as with some longer duration projects I'll skip it so I can offline bounce but then when I do use it I'm reminded why I keep it. If you do get an M7 I recommend getting a plugin controller for it, makes life really easy. I admit that John has a point, probably no one would notice if I slipped in the Liquidsonics version when using it as a send but Bill also has a point that you can use tiny ammounts on a full mix and it does magic. Thanks man! Is that a midi plugin controller? |
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Post by nudwig on Apr 9, 2024 17:34:15 GMT -6
I'm 8 years in with mine. I've toyed with selling it as with some longer duration projects I'll skip it so I can offline bounce but then when I do use it I'm reminded why I keep it. If you do get an M7 I recommend getting a plugin controller for it, makes life really easy. I admit that John has a point, probably no one would notice if I slipped in the Liquidsonics version when using it as a send but Bill also has a point that you can use tiny ammounts on a full mix and it does magic. Thanks man! Is that a midi plugin controller? Yeah, I use the discontinued Exponential Audio version but I hear the Liquidsonics M7 link is also great (tho expensive). |
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Post by maldenfilms on Apr 9, 2024 18:40:58 GMT -6
Thanks drbill. I appreciate the reply. I do understand it may sound silly for those who really get value from it, but alot of people sold theirs. Matters not, for me, I just want to add that last small % I can't get from my current selections and I am very much about long term relationships with gear and value those perspectives from those who have been utilizing it for this long! The box does so many things exceptionally well....but even if the box did only one thing - putting reverb on mastered final mixes - there are a couple patches at low ratios during mastering that would make it worth twice the money. It's like freaking magic. I've had so many clients say that to me - and I never tell them how I do it - so shhhhhhhh....... I have an M7 but have never tried this... which preset/algo do you tend to use for this? A room like Studio B? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 9, 2024 19:13:25 GMT -6
Believe he uses the Studio A preset
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Post by ericn on Apr 9, 2024 20:20:43 GMT -6
You were all supposed to say it absolutely sucks and was the worst investment ever just to drive the used price down 😁
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Post by ericn on Apr 9, 2024 20:23:39 GMT -6
So, just to be the contrarian in the room...I'd love to try one of these again, but my last run with it made me feel like it wasn't a big enough ROI. I just felt at the time, nobody was going to be able to tell...like no one is gonna walk up to me and say, "damn, dude...I heard that Bricasti you put on the snare..." I mean, maybe if I used one day in day out, I'd feel the same - but I guess we all have our different things we would or wouldn't live without. Other than a couple of really die hard geeks I don’t think anyone has ever really commented on a verb I used, that being said the reason the lexicon 300, Yamaha pro3r and a couple of hardware boxes are here is I can usually find something that works in seconds with minimal tweaking. |
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