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Post by hadaja on Apr 7, 2024 16:13:45 GMT -6
I was looking at low impedence preamps and matching some of my low impedence mics to a low impedence preamp. I see the REDD47 is one such beast . Input = 200ohms. I know low impedence and mismatching effects the sound of the signal and is also a creative way of tailoring the fequency response of the signal . But I am interested in this preamp and its usefulness as a generla preamp and not just a special type of preamp for special things. SO I was asking the people who have one of these, as its bee. out for some time now, how they are finding using it? IS it a preamp they reach for just about everything or is it specific to just sopecialo duties? I have the opportunity to buy one and am just sussing it out. HAving previously looked at YT clips and bought. aproduct based in that to end up finding that the product was not all that it cracked up to be , I find that some of those reviews out there to be not so helpful. I am guessing I would like to use this more for accoustic sources, but I am wondering what advantages does the REDD47 have over just sticking with my Neve, Locomotive, Audioscape, Buzz Audio etc stuff. I do have alll the regular mics, - Ribbons, U47, 251, 67, Km84's so its going to be used with htos ein mind. As a side note I have also ordered the Cloud Zi so i can experiment with impedence changes of signals with a quality Cinemeag transformer. I previously bought a cheaper transformer equioed unit that had a no brand transformer in it (I am guessing chinese) so my thinking is if I have a quality transformer to tap off the impedence changes I should get a reasonable result in mixing and matching. But thats a discussion for another time. Thanks for anyone wishing to contribute. Attachments:
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 7, 2024 18:41:03 GMT -6
@christian Svedin does a good comparison of tube pre amps including the REDD which I love. On YouTube.
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Post by nick8801 on Apr 7, 2024 19:24:10 GMT -6
I bought a Redd about two months ago. I haven’t had the opportunity to track an entire project with it yet, but I am enjoying experimenting with it on different sources. Here’s a couple thoughts I have so far….Killer on bass di. Round and punchy with lots of harmonics. I run a boost pedal into the di and crank the thing with my electric guitar and get some awesome fuzzy di tones. It’s pretty amazing. On acoustic guitars it adds a presence that I normally don’t get with other pres. As a matter of fact, overall I’d say that it definitely has more presence than other pres I’ve tried. I am curious to see how a bunch of tracks would stack in a production, but I haven’t gotten there yet. Interested in other people’s thoughts as well! Attached is a little snippet of the di guitars. No processing! www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kfjcbbs4pnm7aolixf03y/Most-Excellent.wav?rlkey=74q419dzbek30ao0ggcysn5wu&dl=0 |
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Post by ironinthepath on Apr 7, 2024 20:03:33 GMT -6
I think it’s a unique pre with a lot of flexibility and character, I like the high pass filter and the harmonic content is quite pleasing to my ears: vocals with large diaphragm condenser is maybe my favorite application so far. I feel like (never measured to prove it) that at high gains the bandwidth is lower (some high end roll off) but nothing so extreme to be a problem. I like following it up with a compressor having decent make-up gain available so I can operate the Redd.47 at lower gain settings, seemingly higher bandwidth, and it’s a bit of hi-fi thing going on, at least to my ears. I happen to like it with the RND5043 for its gain/sound, very little (if any) compression from the 5043: the Redd’s tubes seem to enact a sort of pleasant compression already. Can make non-tube condensers have a bit more life, similar to a nice tube mic.
Just my thoughts: not doing this as a studio professional though, serious hobbyist here.
-Chris
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Post by longscale on Apr 7, 2024 21:10:20 GMT -6
But I am interested in this preamp and its usefulness as a generla preamp and not just a special type of preamp for special things. SO I was asking the people who have one of these, as its bee. out for some time now, how they are finding using it? IS it a preamp they reach for just about everything or is it specific to just sopecialo duties? It works for me as a general preamp. I don't use it as a special one trick pony on a specific source. There are some places that I reach for it - because I know the results I'm after and how I've used it to achieve them in the past. Harmonically rich, and fun to drive hard, but clean when you want that. I like it. I talked with Bowie and picked up a few different options for NOS tubes from him for it long ago. That was fun and got me where I wanted this pre for my ears/style. |
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Post by hadaja on Apr 7, 2024 23:23:01 GMT -6
Thanks Guys for your feedback. Really Appreciate and yes you to MIKE.
I am going to start going down the rabbit hole of mixing up impedances on various equipment to see what comes of that. SO the Redd47 looks like a good candidate for that.
As well as being a well liked and well used piece of gear.
Glad to hear its not a one trick pony from a few people now.
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Post by hadaja on Apr 8, 2024 16:08:45 GMT -6
So I have read that the redd47 does not shine on the top end. Or have a sweet top end.
Is this what you users have found?
Or do you find its no different to most preamps on the top end?
It seems like it excels more in the mids?
And also handles the low end in a competent way.
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Post by nick8801 on Apr 8, 2024 16:30:34 GMT -6
Where have you read that? Mine sounds beautiful in the high end! Actually, it sounds great on all ends  |
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Post by longscale on Apr 9, 2024 7:46:20 GMT -6
So I have read that the redd47 does not shine on the top end. Or have a sweet top end. Not words I'd ever use to describe my REDD.47. Its top middle and bottom is very attractive. |
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Post by spock on Apr 9, 2024 7:49:43 GMT -6
hadaja The Chandler Limited REDD.47 is more than just a preamp, it's an amazing post processor too. There are many out there that use it to re-amp, others whom use it for parallel distortion and those that use it for mix bus to add width and depth to otherwise flat mixes. You can use the rumble filter as a tone control— It can bring note definition back to a flabby or poorly played bass line, or be used perfectly place a source in the mix. Acoustic musicians love it for obvious reason, electronica artists love using it for parallel distortion on — for example — a TR808 kick drum; they use the rumble filter to tuck it in and the fine gain to color darker or brighter. That brings up the 'Fine Gain,' it has a nice byproduct darkening (cutting) or brightening (boosting) the source passing through it. The DI is stunning and on bass guitars, it's like having a mic on cabinet, although with note definition. Aside from all the above, vibe wise, some describe it as almost as if you're hitting 1/2" tape.
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Post by hadaja on Apr 9, 2024 14:42:07 GMT -6
"Aside from all the above, vibe wise, some describe it as almost as if you're hitting 1/2" tape.
I was in touch with a user of the product and he echoed your sentiments.
When ever you have access to many products and some of them really excel at certain things, I think the comment of not having a sweet top end was not to say that is did not have top end.
But comparing it other preamps, the REDD47 top end was not something people talked about that stuck out in peoples mind. Thats not to say that in reference to the top end and the many other excellent features it has diminishes the usefulness of the product.
Thanks Spock for you detailed response.
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