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Post by thehightenor on Mar 4, 2024 9:27:16 GMT -6
I got the following email from Softube.
Either they think they’re customers are idiots or was there a memo I missed about they’re being only a 1000 made?
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Make your dream console a reality
Get your Console 1 Channel Mk III before they're gone! You can now purchase the new generation of our groundbreaking and highly awarded mixing control surface. Say goodbye to mixing with a mouse and hello to world-class console sound and feel — before it's too late. Find a retailer near you at the link below.
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Huh?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2024 10:11:23 GMT -6
They are an interesting tool, but getting expensive.
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2024 10:28:59 GMT -6
They are an interesting tool, but getting expensive. Yeah, but console MK1’s are getting cheap used and honestly it is probably the dedicated plugin controller with the most plugs available out of the box. |
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Post by Dan on Mar 4, 2024 10:39:18 GMT -6
They're making a new run of them and I guess they made 1000 because they judged that's how many they can sell. They're well built units. The SSL ones that are even less popular are dying. The system is very limited when it comes to modern recording and mixing and they've released the good but digitally sounding API "American Class A" (sic) and cooler sounding Neve "British Class A" as native plugins already that don't need the console 1. They've also had issues integrating them into pro tools and some other daws.
The best controller still made is still the scrappy little Eucon S1 that gives you some faders to ride, no midi, and doesn't get in the way unlike the bigger ones. The S3 is gone. The bigger ones are too big and cannot replace a screen. It's a dead market.
Turning knobs on console 1 is far slower than just drawing the eq in Weiss EP MP too. The drawable EQs are faster but have a tendency to over eq and not get as cool filters as more limited eqs and maybe having to use 2-3 channels of them on a problematic track to do the job.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Mar 4, 2024 10:51:27 GMT -6
I really like my MKII. It ebbs and flows in terms of how much I use it but it's worth the $350 that it goes for these days. When the MKIII was first announced I wondered if the few legitimate upgrades would justify the increased cost and I'm still wondering.
90% of the time my Console One gets used for HPF/LPF tweaks, quick EQ adjustments, and quick saturation adjustments. All of that works just fine on the MKII plus I've already got a nifty looking wooden box built for it. And that gives it a warmer, analog tone.
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2024 11:04:58 GMT -6
I really like my MKII. It ebbs and flows in terms of how much I use it but it's worth the $350 that it goes for these days. When the MKIII was first announced I wondered if the few legitimate upgrades would justify the increased cost and I'm still wondering. 90% of the time my Console One gets used for HPF/LPF tweaks, quick EQ adjustments, and quick saturation adjustments. All of that works just fine on the MKII plus I've already got a nifty looking wooden box built for it. And that gives it a warmer, analog, tone. Yeah I have noticed since building the Zebra Wood dog house for the DM1000 for the live rig it’s warmed up considerably 😁 |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 4, 2024 11:10:48 GMT -6
They are an interesting tool, but getting expensive. Yeah, but console MK1’s are getting cheap used and honestly it is probably the dedicated plugin controller with the most plugs available out of the box. If you want to rebuy lots of plugs or buy new to use it. I had the mki, don’t think I would rebuy and wouldn’t buy the mkii, , too expensive now  |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Mar 4, 2024 11:11:32 GMT -6
I really like my MKII. It ebbs and flows in terms of how much I use it but it's worth the $350 that it goes for these days. When the MKIII was first announced I wondered if the few legitimate upgrades would justify the increased cost and I'm still wondering. 90% of the time my Console One gets used for HPF/LPF tweaks, quick EQ adjustments, and quick saturation adjustments. All of that works just fine on the MKII plus I've already got a nifty looking wooden box built for it. And that gives it a warmer, analog, tone. Yeah I have noticed since building the Zebra Wood dog house for the DM1000 for the live rig it’s warmed up considerably 😁 The wood probably absorbs some of those harsh digital frequencies while reflecting the warm, vibey mojo back into the room. When I got the wooden box for the Console One I did a REW measurement of my room and the vibeyness was up by 2db - 4db across the whole frequency range while the digitaliness was down -3db starting at about 6khz. Your mileage my vary. |
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2024 12:28:56 GMT -6
Yeah I have noticed since building the Zebra Wood dog house for the DM1000 for the live rig it’s warmed up considerably 😁 The wood probably absorbs some of those harsh digital frequencies while reflecting the warm, vibey mojo back into the room. When I got the wooden box for the Console One I did a REW measurement of my room and the vibeyness was up by 2db - 4db across the whole frequency range while the digitaliness was down -3db starting at about 6khz. Your mileage my vary. I Keep wondering if I were to use some Purple Heart I have sitting in storage if It would sound like Prince or heart? I do know on the DDA reclaimed oak from Whiskey Barrels gave all the Vocals a Chris Stapleton or Tom Waits Quality 😁 |
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 4, 2024 14:06:20 GMT -6
They're making a new run of them and I guess they made 1000 because they judged that's how many they can sell. They're well built units. The SSL ones that are even less popular are dying. The system is very limited when it comes to modern recording and mixing and they've released the good but digitally sounding API "American Class A" (sic) and cooler sounding Neve "British Class A" as native plugins already that don't need the console 1. They've also had issues integrating them into pro tools and some other daws. The best controller still made is still the scrappy little Eucon S1 that gives you some faders to ride, no midi, and doesn't get in the way unlike the bigger ones. The S3 is gone. The bigger ones are too big and cannot replace a screen. It's a dead market. Turning knobs on console 1 is far slower than just drawing the eq in Weiss EP MP too. The drawable EQs are faster but have a tendency to over eq and not get as cool filters as more limited eqs and maybe having to use 2-3 channels of them on a problematic track to do the job. So is that what they actually did - only made a 1000 units for the first production run? |
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Post by Dan on Mar 4, 2024 14:20:08 GMT -6
They're making a new run of them and I guess they made 1000 because they judged that's how many they can sell. They're well built units. The SSL ones that are even less popular are dying. The system is very limited when it comes to modern recording and mixing and they've released the good but digitally sounding API "American Class A" (sic) and cooler sounding Neve "British Class A" as native plugins already that don't need the console 1. They've also had issues integrating them into pro tools and some other daws. The best controller still made is still the scrappy little Eucon S1 that gives you some faders to ride, no midi, and doesn't get in the way unlike the bigger ones. The S3 is gone. The bigger ones are too big and cannot replace a screen. It's a dead market. Turning knobs on console 1 is far slower than just drawing the eq in Weiss EP MP too. The drawable EQs are faster but have a tendency to over eq and not get as cool filters as more limited eqs and maybe having to use 2-3 channels of them on a problematic track to do the job. So is that what they actually did - only made a 1000 units for the first production run? The market for daw controllers is tiny and industry is collapsing further. There's a lot of stuff that's excellent and not hype that sells for insane prices used. My local distributor of the mk 1 and mk 2 didn't even stock the mk 3. |
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2024 15:29:22 GMT -6
A 1000 units is actually quite a lot, manny a manufacturer would kill for 1000 unit sales. The number may be based on sales of the first 2 or it could be Mark 4 is already in development.
A key as to long term plans will be if they support the UA Spark narrative plugins, this also might influence development they may need a less expensive version for this market.
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 4, 2024 22:16:38 GMT -6
My question is whether Console 1 (any version) can control UAD native plugins. Or is it just the +DSP versions that it works with? I seem to recall reading it only worked with the versions that require UAD hardware.
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Post by ericn on Mar 5, 2024 6:46:58 GMT -6
My question is whether Console 1 (any version) can control UAD native plugins. Or is it just the +DSP versions that it works with? I seem to recall reading it only worked with the versions that require UAD hardware. As of now you are correct, in the future who knows? |
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 6, 2024 3:35:30 GMT -6
A 1000 units is actually quite a lot, manny a manufacturer would kill for 1000 unit sales. The number may be based on sales of the first 2 or it could be Mark 4 is already in development. A key as to long term plans will be if they support the UA Spark narrative plugins, this also might influence development they may need a less expensive version for this market. I plucked the number 1000 out of thin air in my original post. It was a guess! Maybe they made 500 or 5000 …. who knows? Either way, I thought the marketing was BS! |
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