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Post by ninworks on Feb 10, 2024 16:27:54 GMT -6
I had 2 of these as well as an Echoplex back in the day and I couldn't WAIT to replace them with something quieter, more versatile, and didn't require cleaning tape heads and replacing worn out tapes. I had both a 101 and a 201. What is it with these things that everyone is willing to pay stupid money for them? I don't get it.
I bought the Echoplex new in 1974 and sold it just a few years ago. It still worked but needed a new tape. It sat unused in a closet for decades. When digital delays and reverbs came out I was in heaven. Not going back, EVER!
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Post by Ward on Feb 10, 2024 17:06:29 GMT -6
I have a RE150 from 1979-1980. Well maintained, clean and good tape and it sounds fantastic. Better than any digital delays that everyone was rushing to buy to replace them.
They’re stupid money now! I got mine used for $150. And have seen them go for $1700.
Yet… They sound fantastic
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Post by lowlou on Feb 10, 2024 17:49:54 GMT -6
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Feb 10, 2024 19:46:45 GMT -6
I have a one-owner 301 with lots of stuff I replaced using EchoFix's kits. Bought it before the price explosion, I guess. It's great, but not super useful, just does it's thing when you need that thing.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Feb 10, 2024 23:52:42 GMT -6
I feel like there are plenty of analog echo guitar pedals that are very 'vibe' and lots of modulation and sparkle etc that are a fraction of the price. I would def have a space echo if it was around $500 though
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Post by robo on Feb 11, 2024 0:09:42 GMT -6
It’s pretty crazy what they are going for, but that can be said about a lot of things…
We’re lucky to have some solid plugin versions. Audiothing Outer Space is great, though the default mode of Valhalla Delay is pretty close too.
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Post by lowlou on Feb 11, 2024 4:18:31 GMT -6
I'm crazy for that sound... For the music I do, there's nothing quite like it. And I'm not into lo-fi at all... but the Space echo vibe is more "dark" than it is lo-fi. Depends on the context I guess.
Pretty much everything is sterile in electronic music. Anything that brings life and space is sure to produce a big impact. And the 201 sounds so good that you can also put them on the foreground and use it as an instrument as it has been said above.
About the plugins, well they compliment the hardware quite well. I like to create pseudo stereo with hardware and plugins. But the plugins don't have the magic IME (and the noise...).
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Post by keymod on Feb 11, 2024 6:48:33 GMT -6
FWIW, ATR sells replacement tapes
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Post by notneeson on Feb 11, 2024 10:19:30 GMT -6
One man’s space echo is another man’s PRS. It’s a vibe thing.
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Post by EmRR on Feb 11, 2024 15:26:24 GMT -6
yeah....5 years ago when I sold a spare RE-201 here people were complaining I wanted $750 for it.....
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Post by timcampbell on Feb 11, 2024 16:21:35 GMT -6
We had one in the studio but I always preferred the TC2290 or my favorite delay pedal:
I still own it and it still sounds great.
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Post by ragan on Feb 11, 2024 18:50:14 GMT -6
The thing that made everybody crazy about them when I was young and in a band was Radiohead ‘The Bends’. Suddenly everybody wanted Space Echo on everything, especially guitars. That and the original, metal Digitech Whammy pedal were requisites.
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Post by poppaflavor on Feb 11, 2024 22:34:12 GMT -6
I hope this isn't too off topic... Speaking of pedal-esque delays, I just grabbed one of these goodies. The Realistic Stereo Reverb System. Was 30 bucks off ebay.
The site where I got this image (thanks!) Is linked before and has a great sound example.
Nothing like tape but fun in its own way especially with the real time modification using the delay knob.
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Post by allbuttonmode on Feb 12, 2024 3:50:20 GMT -6
My RE-501 is the single most indispensable vibe machine of my studio. Unless I need a bone dry, straight-from-the-source signal, it will be in the recording chain.
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Post by frans on Feb 12, 2024 6:47:35 GMT -6
I like what it does and there was one in the studio but... as long as it's quirky fun thing isn't super exposed in a close-to-empty mix, i get by with plugs or things that do something similar.
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Post by Quint on Feb 12, 2024 8:00:31 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Feb 12, 2024 9:00:00 GMT -6
I do print mine to a track frequently. I haven’t found anything that does the same thing, and it’s far faster to print than automate any knob changes on a plug.
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Post by ninworks on Feb 12, 2024 9:35:31 GMT -6
What is it that it does for you? Is it a saturation thing a size thing or something else? I know about the modulation effect of tape echos having had some forever but that's nothing I can't do with about any delay plugin out there.
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Post by lowlou on Feb 12, 2024 10:25:51 GMT -6
In a weird psycho-acoustic way, Re-201 sound stereo even if they are mono and centered. It's incredible !
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Post by johneppstein on Feb 12, 2024 11:36:33 GMT -6
What is it that it does for you? Is it a saturation thing a size thing or something else? I know about the modulation effect of tape echos having had some forever but that's nothing I can't do with about any delay plugin out there. They have "A Sound" that you can't get elsewhere. No, it's not saturation, it's tape! and unlike other echoes Space Echos used a fairly long loop that didn't constantly rub against itself, so tape didn't wear like it did in an Echoplex. And there's the multiple playback heads, available singly or in combinations, The only other echo that was in the same class was the Korg Stage Echo, whjich used the same technology. (and cost a bit more...) |
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Post by timcampbell on Feb 12, 2024 13:51:11 GMT -6
No. That sounds great. I will definitely check it out. |
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Post by EmRR on Feb 12, 2024 18:03:49 GMT -6
What is it that it does for you? Is it a saturation thing a size thing or something else? I know about the modulation effect of tape echos having had some forever but that's nothing I can't do with about any delay plugin out there. What johneppstein said. It’s got a sound. Straight digital delays are a totally different class of thing, no personality. The sound of changing the master settings, the modulation and feedback. The same echo timing on different speed settings is a totally different texture. Etc. Plus…UFO’s. Landing, taking off, etc. thehollywoodten.bandcamp.com/album/old-wives-tales?t=3 |
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Post by vvvooojjj on Feb 13, 2024 0:58:42 GMT -6
Nothing sounds like the real one, I own 201 and 501, but they leave a big sonic print so they don't fit into every production.
Even though I love mine I'd never pay what people are asking today
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Post by mcirish on Feb 13, 2024 10:26:34 GMT -6
In my previous life, I used to fix them often. I'm still glad to not have to work with tape in any way now. Yes, I know they had a very cool vibe. I just hate all the maintenance to keep tape based products working.
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Post by johneppstein on Feb 19, 2024 9:42:00 GMT -6
I had 2 of these as well as an Echoplex back in the day and I couldn't WAIT to replace them with something quieter, more versatile, and didn't require cleaning tape heads and replacing worn out tapes. I had both a 101 and a 201. What is it with these things that everyone is willing to pay stupid money for them? I don't get it. I bought the Echoplex new in 1974 and sold it just a few years ago. It still worked but needed a new tape. It sat unused in a closet for decades. When digital delays and reverbs came out I was in heaven. Not going back, EVER! Replacing a worn out Space Echo tape is easy as hell. It's in a damn CARTRIDGE fer chissakle! None of the nonsense you need to go through with other tape echoes. And they're pretty quiet, as tape machines go.
Kids these days are SOOooo lazy!
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