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Post by beyer160 on Jan 13, 2024 15:49:26 GMT -6
What an incredibly sad story.
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Post by ab101 on Jan 13, 2024 16:19:24 GMT -6
Why not just buy a band and have them play live in one's house.
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Post by viciousbliss on Jan 13, 2024 19:42:27 GMT -6
Cool story, I'll have to watch the documentary. Lot of OCD in the various audiophile communities. Speakers was never a big thing for me once I got the first pair of headphones that I liked. At Axpona it sounded like they were cranking the highest frequencies to compensate for the expected hearing loss that their target market would have. Guys like Fritz basically. You really have to set limits for yourself, know when to stop gambling. There is a lot of subjectivity, but also objective measurements. I bought a few things trying to balance out the high frequency boost in my RS-1 headphones. At the time, I knew nothing about frequencies, impedance, distortions, etc. The marketing was misleading in making you think that the headphone was the be all end all. Then with all the options for sources and amps, barely any of them had any objective data.
Luckily I stumbled onto the NWavguy site 11 years ago. So much about digital audio is about avoiding problems whether it's listening or engineering. What I found was that I preferred more neutral stuff. The K701, Sansa clip, O2, Odac clone. But I didn't like stuff that was completely flat like the Mr. Speakers headphones. Not a fan of the planar magnetic stuff or most of the electrostats. Nowadays I'm much happier with the Aurora N's headphone section than much of anything else I've tried. I've never been completely blown away by some 10-15k headphone setup. So much of this stuff is just designed to prey on these OCD audiophiles who fear they're not getting the best stuff.
The irony is that a lot of audiophiles that post on places like head-fi use poorly produced music to evaluate the quality of things. "Come hear my $50,000 setup, it does a phenomenal job of highlighting aliasing, quantization errors, and clipped peaks from really cranking that L2". You have to buy so much of this stuff blind since no stores carry it. But I guess Europe is much different than the US in that regard. Posters from various countries in Europe often have a chance to try out hardware for engineering or expensive headphones and their assorted components. Getting a chance to try stuff for even half an hour makes a big difference. Sometimes 2 minutes is all I needed.
When we had a store that sold some of this stuff, the manager was almost a dead ringer for the principal in Brainscan. He could not begin to explain to me why a $3000 cd player was better. Just relied on subjective terms like "it will blow your mind". Only one Grado headphone amp to try all the expensive headphones on. The clientele seemed to be people who just wanted an expensive stereo system as sort of a trophy. The other store with this sorta stuff was owned by a guy who looked like Captain Spaulding. They may still be in business. He'd let me home demo stuff but was very dismissive about headphones as any sort of audiophile thing. The big money seemed to be in setting up expensive speaker systems in people's homes and doing custom acoustic treatment. Something like that. Probably a dying business as the younger people often can't even afford the houses in the first place.
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Post by ericn on Jan 13, 2024 20:51:47 GMT -6
This guy was extreme and had way to much cash to burn.
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Post by drbill on Jan 13, 2024 21:24:29 GMT -6
This guy was extreme and had way to much cash to burn. ^^^ I'm waiting for it to go up on Ebay for $0.02 on the dollar..... |
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Post by antipodesjosh on Jan 14, 2024 0:39:27 GMT -6
Incredibly sad, especially how it affected the relationships with his family. As a parent, time with your children is fleeting and precious, one of life’s greatest gifts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2024 10:41:03 GMT -6
This guy was extreme and had way to much cash to burn. ^^^ I'm waiting for it to go up on Ebay for $0.02 on the dollar..... it already was sold off at auction. A friend got his Bricasti stuff for pennies on the dollar. Crane Song pieces for 1500 each. Brand new dbx hardware for almost nothing. |
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Post by chessparov on Jan 14, 2024 15:06:05 GMT -6
I heard the guy went back to Mono.
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Post by geoff738 on Jan 14, 2024 15:13:02 GMT -6
Hmmm. I just spent a considerable sum, to me, on stereo stuff. Didn’t make my kid help build it though!
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Post by bossanova on Jan 14, 2024 21:50:45 GMT -6
Cool story, I'll have to watch the documentary. Lot of OCD in the various audiophile communities. Speakers was never a big thing for me once I got the first pair of headphones that I liked. At Axpona it sounded like they were cranking the highest frequencies to compensate for the expected hearing loss that their target market would have. Guys like Fritz basically. You really have to set limits for yourself, know when to stop gambling. There is a lot of subjectivity, but also objective measurements. I bought a few things trying to balance out the high frequency boost in my RS-1 headphones. At the time, I knew nothing about frequencies, impedance, distortions, etc. The marketing was misleading in making you think that the headphone was the be all end all. Then with all the options for sources and amps, barely any of them had any objective data. Luckily I stumbled onto the NWavguy site 11 years ago. So much about digital audio is about avoiding problems whether it's listening or engineering. What I found was that I preferred more neutral stuff. The K701, Sansa clip, O2, Odac clone. But I didn't like stuff that was completely flat like the Mr. Speakers headphones. Not a fan of the planar magnetic stuff or most of the electrostats. Nowadays I'm much happier with the Aurora N's headphone section than much of anything else I've tried. I've never been completely blown away by some 10-15k headphone setup. So much of this stuff is just designed to prey on these OCD audiophiles who fear they're not getting the best stuff. The irony is that a lot of audiophiles that post on places like head-fi use poorly produced music to evaluate the quality of things. "Come hear my $50,000 setup, it does a phenomenal job of highlighting aliasing, quantization errors, and clipped peaks from really cranking that L2". You have to buy so much of this stuff blind since no stores carry it. But I guess Europe is much different than the US in that regard. Posters from various countries in Europe often have a chance to try out hardware for engineering or expensive headphones and their assorted components. Getting a chance to try stuff for even half an hour makes a big difference. Sometimes 2 minutes is all I needed. When we had a store that sold some of this stuff, the manager was almost a dead ringer for the principal in Brainscan. He could not begin to explain to me why a $3000 cd player was better. Just relied on subjective terms like "it will blow your mind". Only one Grado headphone amp to try all the expensive headphones on. The clientele seemed to be people who just wanted an expensive stereo system as sort of a trophy. The other store with this sorta stuff was owned by a guy who looked like Captain Spaulding. They may still be in business. He'd let me home demo stuff but was very dismissive about headphones as any sort of audiophile thing. The big money seemed to be in setting up expensive speaker systems in people's homes and doing custom acoustic treatment. Something like that. Probably a dying business as the younger people often can't even afford the houses in the first place. I attended an audiophile speaker demonstration years ago (at SXSW actually) where they were playing the most compressed, faceless modern metal to demonstrate their sound. I had to make a special request to get them to play “Kind of Blue” just so I could hear any sort of detail and dynamics in the sound. (They sounded good, just not the prices they were charging good.) AudioScience has people complaining that a DAC only has 18 bits of true resolution at 40k or something like that. Madness. |
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Post by viciousbliss on Jan 15, 2024 7:16:52 GMT -6
Cool story, I'll have to watch the documentary. Lot of OCD in the various audiophile communities. Speakers was never a big thing for me once I got the first pair of headphones that I liked. At Axpona it sounded like they were cranking the highest frequencies to compensate for the expected hearing loss that their target market would have. Guys like Fritz basically. You really have to set limits for yourself, know when to stop gambling. There is a lot of subjectivity, but also objective measurements. I bought a few things trying to balance out the high frequency boost in my RS-1 headphones. At the time, I knew nothing about frequencies, impedance, distortions, etc. The marketing was misleading in making you think that the headphone was the be all end all. Then with all the options for sources and amps, barely any of them had any objective data. Luckily I stumbled onto the NWavguy site 11 years ago. So much about digital audio is about avoiding problems whether it's listening or engineering. What I found was that I preferred more neutral stuff. The K701, Sansa clip, O2, Odac clone. But I didn't like stuff that was completely flat like the Mr. Speakers headphones. Not a fan of the planar magnetic stuff or most of the electrostats. Nowadays I'm much happier with the Aurora N's headphone section than much of anything else I've tried. I've never been completely blown away by some 10-15k headphone setup. So much of this stuff is just designed to prey on these OCD audiophiles who fear they're not getting the best stuff. The irony is that a lot of audiophiles that post on places like head-fi use poorly produced music to evaluate the quality of things. "Come hear my $50,000 setup, it does a phenomenal job of highlighting aliasing, quantization errors, and clipped peaks from really cranking that L2". You have to buy so much of this stuff blind since no stores carry it. But I guess Europe is much different than the US in that regard. Posters from various countries in Europe often have a chance to try out hardware for engineering or expensive headphones and their assorted components. Getting a chance to try stuff for even half an hour makes a big difference. Sometimes 2 minutes is all I needed. When we had a store that sold some of this stuff, the manager was almost a dead ringer for the principal in Brainscan. He could not begin to explain to me why a $3000 cd player was better. Just relied on subjective terms like "it will blow your mind". Only one Grado headphone amp to try all the expensive headphones on. The clientele seemed to be people who just wanted an expensive stereo system as sort of a trophy. The other store with this sorta stuff was owned by a guy who looked like Captain Spaulding. They may still be in business. He'd let me home demo stuff but was very dismissive about headphones as any sort of audiophile thing. The big money seemed to be in setting up expensive speaker systems in people's homes and doing custom acoustic treatment. Something like that. Probably a dying business as the younger people often can't even afford the houses in the first place. I attended an audiophile speaker demonstration years ago (at SXSW actually) where they were playing the most compressed, faceless modern metal to demonstrate their sound. I had to make a special request to get them to play “Kind of Blue” just so I could hear any sort of detail and dynamics in the sound. (They sounded good, just not the prices they were charging good.) AudioScience has people complaining that a DAC only has 18 bits of true resolution at 40k or something like that. Madness. Yeah, a lot of these people sit there and fuss over stats when they don't even have any objective measurements. The importance of measurements is just to establish that the device was competently made. There was someone from around here building headphone amps for people, and they caught on fire or something and then she disappeared. Nwavguy exposed one amp that damaged a K701 and it wasn't cheap either. It's a lot like these plugins where people are finding problems. If you're going to spend hundreds or thousands on a device, it shouldn't have defective craftsmanship. Maybe a lot of these people work jobs that pay good money and can spare the cash. The expensive setup gives them something to play with and makes them feel like they have a reason to work a job they maybe hate. Others may just be throwing this stuff on credit cards. The whole point Nwavguy proved was that you could make competent and accurate devices for cheap. For me, listening is different than engineering. The creative choices have already been made by the people who created the album or song. It makes sense to go neutral and try to best reproduce the material. Engineering is more subjective and creative, you just want to avoid objectively bad problems. But it's trendy for clients to ask for things that create these problems. I was just reading an interview with Emily Lazar and I walked away with the impression that the end products she masters would be so much better if she were free to provide the type of mastering she thought was best. But yeah, a lot of audiophiles don't even realize that so much music just defeats the purpose of their spending on audiophile gear. The whole reason I even noticed the problems with albums made with a DAW was because I stepped into audiophile gear. All of a sudden modern stuff could not stand up to the scrutiny. This is around 2007. But then I'd put on some old cd like Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire and be blown away with how much better it got on this alleged audiophile equipment. |
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Post by svart on Jan 15, 2024 9:05:46 GMT -6
Spent a million bucks on a stereo system to listen to 20$ records spat out by a machine by the thousands which were recorded by a few thousand dollars in commodity mics and gear that used regular cables and weren't powered by any special separate power source.
It's amazing to think that folks actually believe that what's on the record can be magically enhanced by a million dollars worth of gear.
Just tweak the EQ a little and just enjoy it on decent speakers.
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Post by lowlou on Jan 15, 2024 10:23:07 GMT -6
Cool story, I'll have to watch the documentary. Lot of OCD in the various audiophile communities. Speakers was never a big thing for me once I got the first pair of headphones that I liked. At Axpona it sounded like they were cranking the highest frequencies to compensate for the expected hearing loss that their target market would have. Guys like Fritz basically. You really have to set limits for yourself, know when to stop gambling. There is a lot of subjectivity, but also objective measurements. I bought a few things trying to balance out the high frequency boost in my RS-1 headphones. At the time, I knew nothing about frequencies, impedance, distortions, etc. The marketing was misleading in making you think that the headphone was the be all end all. Then with all the options for sources and amps, barely any of them had any objective data. Luckily I stumbled onto the NWavguy site 11 years ago. So much about digital audio is about avoiding problems whether it's listening or engineering. What I found was that I preferred more neutral stuff. The K701, Sansa clip, O2, Odac clone. But I didn't like stuff that was completely flat like the Mr. Speakers headphones. Not a fan of the planar magnetic stuff or most of the electrostats. Nowadays I'm much happier with the Aurora N's headphone section than much of anything else I've tried. I've never been completely blown away by some 10-15k headphone setup. So much of this stuff is just designed to prey on these OCD audiophiles who fear they're not getting the best stuff. The irony is that a lot of audiophiles that post on places like head-fi use poorly produced music to evaluate the quality of things. "Come hear my $50,000 setup, it does a phenomenal job of highlighting aliasing, quantization errors, and clipped peaks from really cranking that L2". You have to buy so much of this stuff blind since no stores carry it. But I guess Europe is much different than the US in that regard. Posters from various countries in Europe often have a chance to try out hardware for engineering or expensive headphones and their assorted components. Getting a chance to try stuff for even half an hour makes a big difference. Sometimes 2 minutes is all I needed. When we had a store that sold some of this stuff, the manager was almost a dead ringer for the principal in Brainscan. He could not begin to explain to me why a $3000 cd player was better. Just relied on subjective terms like "it will blow your mind". Only one Grado headphone amp to try all the expensive headphones on. The clientele seemed to be people who just wanted an expensive stereo system as sort of a trophy. The other store with this sorta stuff was owned by a guy who looked like Captain Spaulding. They may still be in business. He'd let me home demo stuff but was very dismissive about headphones as any sort of audiophile thing. The big money seemed to be in setting up expensive speaker systems in people's homes and doing custom acoustic treatment. Something like that. Probably a dying business as the younger people often can't even afford the houses in the first place. I'm on the hunt for my next (and definitive) headphone set. I am considering Mr. Speakers, aka Dan Clark Audio. The Stealth, or the Expanse, or the E3 (this one being half the price of the others). The graphs are impressive. Actually they have the only frequency response that seem to make sense, if you trust Harman researches... My trusty DT770 need an upgrade. These Beyerdybamics are the only one that follow the Harman curve. They are the easiest for me... Effortless translation on speakers. |
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Post by svart on Jan 15, 2024 10:52:01 GMT -6
Cool story, I'll have to watch the documentary. Lot of OCD in the various audiophile communities. Speakers was never a big thing for me once I got the first pair of headphones that I liked. At Axpona it sounded like they were cranking the highest frequencies to compensate for the expected hearing loss that their target market would have. Guys like Fritz basically. You really have to set limits for yourself, know when to stop gambling. There is a lot of subjectivity, but also objective measurements. I bought a few things trying to balance out the high frequency boost in my RS-1 headphones. At the time, I knew nothing about frequencies, impedance, distortions, etc. The marketing was misleading in making you think that the headphone was the be all end all. Then with all the options for sources and amps, barely any of them had any objective data. Luckily I stumbled onto the NWavguy site 11 years ago. So much about digital audio is about avoiding problems whether it's listening or engineering. What I found was that I preferred more neutral stuff. The K701, Sansa clip, O2, Odac clone. But I didn't like stuff that was completely flat like the Mr. Speakers headphones. Not a fan of the planar magnetic stuff or most of the electrostats. Nowadays I'm much happier with the Aurora N's headphone section than much of anything else I've tried. I've never been completely blown away by some 10-15k headphone setup. So much of this stuff is just designed to prey on these OCD audiophiles who fear they're not getting the best stuff. The irony is that a lot of audiophiles that post on places like head-fi use poorly produced music to evaluate the quality of things. "Come hear my $50,000 setup, it does a phenomenal job of highlighting aliasing, quantization errors, and clipped peaks from really cranking that L2". You have to buy so much of this stuff blind since no stores carry it. But I guess Europe is much different than the US in that regard. Posters from various countries in Europe often have a chance to try out hardware for engineering or expensive headphones and their assorted components. Getting a chance to try stuff for even half an hour makes a big difference. Sometimes 2 minutes is all I needed. When we had a store that sold some of this stuff, the manager was almost a dead ringer for the principal in Brainscan. He could not begin to explain to me why a $3000 cd player was better. Just relied on subjective terms like "it will blow your mind". Only one Grado headphone amp to try all the expensive headphones on. The clientele seemed to be people who just wanted an expensive stereo system as sort of a trophy. The other store with this sorta stuff was owned by a guy who looked like Captain Spaulding. They may still be in business. He'd let me home demo stuff but was very dismissive about headphones as any sort of audiophile thing. The big money seemed to be in setting up expensive speaker systems in people's homes and doing custom acoustic treatment. Something like that. Probably a dying business as the younger people often can't even afford the houses in the first place. I'm on the hunt for my next (and definitive) headphone set. I am considering Mr. Speakers, aka Dan Clark Audio. The Stealth, or the Expanse, or the E3 (this one being half the price of the others). The graphs are impressive. Actually they have the only frequency response that seem to make sense, if you trust Harman researches... My trusty DT770 need an upgrade. These Beyerdybamics are the only one that follow the Harman curve. They are the easiest for me... Effortless translation on speakers. I used to hate the Beyer headphones due to the pressure they put on my skull, but I've found that the DT770 pro gives a great "first mix" when you use them to bring a mix together. My planar headphones are good too, but are super heavy and hard to wear for long periods. Hard to wear them with any noise in the room too. Honestly at this point I use some cheap earbuds to do most of the "headphone checks" and get great results. |
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Post by lowlou on Jan 15, 2024 11:29:15 GMT -6
I'm on the hunt for my next (and definitive) headphone set. I am considering Mr. Speakers, aka Dan Clark Audio. The Stealth, or the Expanse, or the E3 (this one being half the price of the others). The graphs are impressive. Actually they have the only frequency response that seem to make sense, if you trust Harman researches... My trusty DT770 need an upgrade. These Beyerdybamics are the only one that follow the Harman curve. They are the easiest for me... Effortless translation on speakers. I used to hate the Beyer headphones due to the pressure they put on my skull, but I've found that the DT770 pro gives a great "first mix" when you use them to bring a mix together. My planar headphones are good too, but are super heavy and hard to wear for long periods. Hard to wear them with any noise in the room too. Honestly at this point I use some cheap earbuds to do most of the "headphone checks" and get great results. The DT770 have the one-bass-note syndrome, but still, they translate like nothing else I tried. On paper, the latest Dan Clark are an upgrade path. But heavy yes !! I've never tried planars yet. I will report my findings on RGO once I've tried them. The new Audeze MM-500 (and also the flagship LCD-5) have roughly the bass profile and general frenquency response of a Beyerdynamic DT880. I know from experience that the 880 curve does NOT work for me. I mix with way too much bass with the 880, it's a catastrophy. It's fun to read everywhere that the Audeze MM-500 are the perfect mixing headphones... They are for some, but not for everybody. I used to read the same thing for the 880. Everybody hears differently. People that mix on DT880 and MM-500 are probably from the Harman listener type 3 : mostly women / trained pro audio / aging listeners (with possibly some hearing losses of high frequencies), 25% of the listeners. They like their Harman curve with less bass. If we like the DT770, it means that we are from the Harman listener type 1 : we like the harman curve, 60% of the listeners. If the DT770 doesn't have enough bass for your taste, then you're probably from the Harman listener type 2 : mostly young men that like their Harman curve with more bass, 15% of the listeners. Once you know what you like, it's easier to find headphones that work for you.  www.rtings.com/headphones/1-5/graph/7903/frequency-response/beyerdynamic-dt-770-pro-vs-beyerdynamic-dt-880/440/431www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/dan-clark-audio-aeon-2-noire-review.46055/www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/dan-clark-e3-headphone-review.50062/www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/dan-clark-stealth-review-state-of-the-art-headphone.25920/www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/dan-clark-expanse-headphone-review.37332/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 11:42:14 GMT -6
Cool story, I'll have to watch the documentary. Lot of OCD in the various audiophile communities. Speakers was never a big thing for me once I got the first pair of headphones that I liked. At Axpona it sounded like they were cranking the highest frequencies to compensate for the expected hearing loss that their target market would have. Guys like Fritz basically. You really have to set limits for yourself, know when to stop gambling. There is a lot of subjectivity, but also objective measurements. I bought a few things trying to balance out the high frequency boost in my RS-1 headphones. At the time, I knew nothing about frequencies, impedance, distortions, etc. The marketing was misleading in making you think that the headphone was the be all end all. Then with all the options for sources and amps, barely any of them had any objective data. Luckily I stumbled onto the NWavguy site 11 years ago. So much about digital audio is about avoiding problems whether it's listening or engineering. What I found was that I preferred more neutral stuff. The K701, Sansa clip, O2, Odac clone. But I didn't like stuff that was completely flat like the Mr. Speakers headphones. Not a fan of the planar magnetic stuff or most of the electrostats. Nowadays I'm much happier with the Aurora N's headphone section than much of anything else I've tried. I've never been completely blown away by some 10-15k headphone setup. So much of this stuff is just designed to prey on these OCD audiophiles who fear they're not getting the best stuff. The irony is that a lot of audiophiles that post on places like head-fi use poorly produced music to evaluate the quality of things. "Come hear my $50,000 setup, it does a phenomenal job of highlighting aliasing, quantization errors, and clipped peaks from really cranking that L2". You have to buy so much of this stuff blind since no stores carry it. But I guess Europe is much different than the US in that regard. Posters from various countries in Europe often have a chance to try out hardware for engineering or expensive headphones and their assorted components. Getting a chance to try stuff for even half an hour makes a big difference. Sometimes 2 minutes is all I needed. When we had a store that sold some of this stuff, the manager was almost a dead ringer for the principal in Brainscan. He could not begin to explain to me why a $3000 cd player was better. Just relied on subjective terms like "it will blow your mind". Only one Grado headphone amp to try all the expensive headphones on. The clientele seemed to be people who just wanted an expensive stereo system as sort of a trophy. The other store with this sorta stuff was owned by a guy who looked like Captain Spaulding. They may still be in business. He'd let me home demo stuff but was very dismissive about headphones as any sort of audiophile thing. The big money seemed to be in setting up expensive speaker systems in people's homes and doing custom acoustic treatment. Something like that. Probably a dying business as the younger people often can't even afford the houses in the first place. I'm on the hunt for my next (and definitive) headphone set. I am considering Mr. Speakers, aka Dan Clark Audio. The Stealth, or the Expanse, or the E3 (this one being half the price of the others). The graphs are impressive. Actually they have the only frequency response that seem to make sense, if you trust Harman researches... My trusty DT770 need an upgrade. These Beyerdybamics are the only one that follow the Harman curve. They are the easiest for me... Effortless translation on speakers. modded HE-6 off a speaker amp. |
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Post by lowlou on Jan 15, 2024 11:50:54 GMT -6
I'm on the hunt for my next (and definitive) headphone set. I am considering Mr. Speakers, aka Dan Clark Audio. The Stealth, or the Expanse, or the E3 (this one being half the price of the others). The graphs are impressive. Actually they have the only frequency response that seem to make sense, if you trust Harman researches... My trusty DT770 need an upgrade. These Beyerdybamics are the only one that follow the Harman curve. They are the easiest for me... Effortless translation on speakers. modded HE-6 off a speaker amp. I couldn't mix anything with this bass response, but I know many swear by this kind of tuning ! (EQed they'd probably work for me too) |
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Post by viciousbliss on Jan 15, 2024 15:53:26 GMT -6
Steven Slate was touting the VSX as performing identically with something from Audeze. Maybe it was the frequency graphs. Their sound reminds me of the Audeze stuff I've heard. I have a DT990 somewhere. Grado HF2. A lot of the portable stuff like an Amperior, Beats EP, K550, and Yamaha Pro 400. I definitely notice the nasty treble spike in the 550 a lot more these days. Also have these Logitech headphones from 2013 that have a blue cord and are supposed to be pretty neutral. I had been wanting to get a DT770 and T1 from Beyer but never had the cash. Oh, I also got one of the newer Sony headphones on a demo for about $400 after they initially retailed for something like $1000. Zr1r or something like that. 99.9% of the time I'm listening to the K701. If I go outside with the Sansa clip Jam then it's the EP. The Sony headphones sound better but need more power than the Clip Jam provides and the cord is like 6 feet long. Some of the cheaper Samson headphones from 2013 were pretty decent for the price. So many headphone sources would be better with a 0 impedance. At least Lynx got that right on the Aurora N. Maybe I can actually get to Axpona this year. So much of that stuff is "well, I like it and if I had an extra 50k laying around that I didn't need, I'd probably buy a couple of these setups". But why spend 15k on an electrostat setup that I like maybe 5% better than what I have? So much of this stuff is about not messing things up.
That's why Nwavguy got attacked so much. If people realized the benefits of things that met minimum performance measurements and didn't introduce coloration, the companies wouldn't be able to sell anything. I've not bought any full-sized headphones, amps, or sources since reading Nwavguy. The Aurora N was a coincidence as I got it so I could use 3-4 pieces of hardware eventually, not because anyone said the headphone section was great to listen to. Coloration can be really difficult with modern masters because adding to them really overdoes stuff. Stuff mixed and mastered when the engineers were in charge just performs so much better across more headphones and gear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 18:28:45 GMT -6
modded HE-6 off a speaker amp. I couldn't mix anything with this bass response, but I know many swear by this kind of tuning ! (EQed they'd probably work for me too) You have to mod them. Then there's the 4 screw vs the 6 screw vs the remake |
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Post by ericn on Jan 15, 2024 20:37:48 GMT -6
I'm on the hunt for my next (and definitive) headphone set. I am considering Mr. Speakers, aka Dan Clark Audio. The Stealth, or the Expanse, or the E3 (this one being half the price of the others). The graphs are impressive. Actually they have the only frequency response that seem to make sense, if you trust Harman researches... My trusty DT770 need an upgrade. These Beyerdybamics are the only one that follow the Harman curve. They are the easiest for me... Effortless translation on speakers. modded HE-6 off a speaker amp. Nah STAX, once you go ESL headphones will never be the same. |
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Post by ironinthepath on Jan 15, 2024 23:06:40 GMT -6
Is there a category for people who like Sony MDR-7506?
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Post by notneeson on Jan 15, 2024 23:52:58 GMT -6
Is there a category for people who like Sony MDR-7506? Alternate reality residents? |
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Post by lowlou on Jan 16, 2024 5:27:59 GMT -6
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