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Post by yotonic on Oct 19, 2023 9:17:29 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2023 9:59:47 GMT -6
Liking seams wrong but I like that you found this. Now my hunch, that I have bought up before that this will be the crossing of the line in the sand, why you ask? Well my audio Econ brother Ward I’m sure will see the obvious reason, publishing a book is where all your political types make their first couple of million. They will put limits on AI and how it can be used to protect and expand their revenue stream. The main use will be to engage AI as a less expensive ghost writer, they will love the fact that they can put limits on what truths it can spill, take a bigger piece of the pie and cut off any AI generated unapproved content. |
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Post by drbill on Oct 19, 2023 11:19:36 GMT -6
The tech companies are modern day pirates. At best. Loot, pillage, steal, burn down.....
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Post by bossanova on Oct 19, 2023 11:26:50 GMT -6
On the other hand, has anyone read much of what kind of creative work those AI models produce after reading all this?
Most of it, but especially the songwriting, only rises to the most basic level of quality.
I do think that visual artists are in way more trouble because of the time and labor that goes into their craft versus how seemingly easy it is for AI to produce "close enough" work in seconds.
I've had people tell me that music and writing are not going to be inherently harder for AI to pose a threat, but I have yet to see it wow me in either of those arenas.
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Post by nudwig on Oct 19, 2023 11:29:06 GMT -6
And already eating themselves from the inside out, software engineers are the highest percentage of layoffs this year
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2023 12:02:47 GMT -6
The tech companies are modern day pirates. At best. Loot, pillage, steal, burn down..... The problem is “tech” really means we are a new company and use computers, Uhber isn’t tech it’s a Taxi company with a pretty app and employees non CDL drivers so yeah they are cheaper, but we can skirt regulations because we call ourselves Tech. All you have to do is say algorithm and everyone thinks your the shit! |
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Post by Ward on Oct 19, 2023 12:19:51 GMT -6
AI from Big Tech crossed the line almost immediately after release into the wild. The reports of guesstimate 'new Beatles' type stuff should have been an eye opener for everyone
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2023 12:37:06 GMT -6
And already eating themselves from the inside out, software engineers are the highest percentage of layoffs this year Always been high turnover, start ups come and go. The difference is they are now unemployed long enough to file and all the tech hubs are to expensive to live on unemployment. Even if you get a severance package that you could live on for a year in Wausau WI it won’t pay rent in San Jose. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 19, 2023 12:45:04 GMT -6
Always been high turnover, start ups come and go. . So, just like the music business then? |
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2023 12:46:40 GMT -6
Always been high turnover, start ups come and go. . So, just like the music business then? Not at all, they actually get paid when they work😁 |
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Post by Ward on Oct 19, 2023 12:49:57 GMT -6
So, just like the music business then? Not at all, they actually get paid when they work😁 Pfffft sure! Next you'll tell me Santa Claus isn't real |
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2023 12:55:51 GMT -6
Not at all, they actually get paid when they work😁 Pfffft sure! Next you'll tell me Santa Claus isn't real He was he just died in 89. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2023 13:14:54 GMT -6
We all have to remember Barney Stinson from How I Met Your mothers first rule: New is always better.
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Post by Ward on Oct 19, 2023 13:23:57 GMT -6
We all have to remember Barney Stinson from How I Met Your mothers first rule: New is always better. When I was a kid, my mom threw out all my old comic books, including Batman #1 (yes, original) for that reason. UGH |
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2023 13:28:30 GMT -6
We all have to remember Barney Stinson from How I Met Your mothers first rule: New is always better. When I was a kid, my mom threw out all my old comic books, including Batman #1 (yes, original) for that reason. UGH That hurts. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 19, 2023 13:32:30 GMT -6
When I was a kid, my mom threw out all my old comic books, including Batman #1 (yes, original) for that reason. UGH That hurts. I still have to periodically go through her attic to make sure she wasn't lying. |
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Post by ninworks on Oct 21, 2023 7:55:29 GMT -6
Yeah, not going to do it. Anytime I get to a page where you must subscribe in order to view it, I'm out. I don't care who it is. If I'm going to have to put up with all the ads and endless shit they constantly throw at you, I'm definitely not going to pay anyone to do that. I'm going to have to be really interested in something to put up with that. AI is AI and it's going to happen no matter what I think. So, no. Not doing that.
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 21, 2023 10:50:38 GMT -6
On the other hand, has anyone read much of what kind of creative work those AI models produce after reading all this? Most of it, but especially the songwriting, only rises to the most basic level of quality. I do think that visual artists are in way more trouble because of the time and labor that goes into their craft versus how seemingly easy it is for AI to produce "close enough" work in seconds. I've had people tell me that music and writing are not going to be inherently harder for AI to pose a threat, but I have yet to see it wow me in either of those arenas. We'll get AI pop fodder, half of todays main stream radio sounds like it's AI produced already to my ears! The cookie cutter can be in a human hand or AI output file. What we won't get (imho) is a David Bowie, Peter Gabriel, Talking Heads, John Lennon etc etc Because those guys are true artists and made music by breaking all the rules and doing the counter intuitive and not just looking to the future but shaping the future. AI - doesn't have a direct connection to a brain, a heart and soul all at the same time - you can't "programme" the unprogrammable. |
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