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Post by sparkey on Aug 18, 2023 11:26:20 GMT -6
Looking to get a new compressor for bringing instruments forward and for tracking,
Chandler germanium compressor is supposed to be there idea of a distressor, multi use,
and it has a wet/dry knob, or should I get a distressor? mostly for tracking, any sugestions?
rock electric guitars, bass, etc
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Post by smashlord on Aug 18, 2023 13:04:32 GMT -6
Distressor certainly cover the multi-use category, but for me personally, it is not the first thing I ever reach for. For what it does, I always feel there is something that does that better. I still find an 1176 to be a better all round tracking comp with better tone, even if it is theoretically less adjustable (though ones like the Serpent add extra functionality), especially for most rock stuff.
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Post by sentientsound on Aug 18, 2023 13:10:56 GMT -6
They sound really different. Distressor is more tracking-friendly in my experience. Although the ratios behave differently and there are a few sidechain and distortion options, it's pretty straightforward to figure out. You can also control certain things like bass and vocals pretty strongly without messing them up. It can also obliterate transients or make them pop in a really hard-edged way. I haven't spent enough time with a Germanium Comp to feel like I knew it well, but it definitely has more sonic imprint and a thick low end boost depending on the feedback and gain settings. The different curves, ratios, and dirty switch all influence the character, so discovering its full range and sweet spots you like may take longer. Dirty compression blended in would definitely be one way to bring instruments forward in a mix though. The manual is a good read: chandlerlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/germanium-compressor-manual.pdfTesting both is of course the best way, if possible. |
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Post by Tbone81 on Aug 18, 2023 14:16:26 GMT -6
I owned a pair of germanium compressors a while back, never really got along with them. They had a nice box tone, really added some lower mid weight depending on the settings. But the compression was super grabby and difficult to dial in. I found using the wet/dry blend was essential because I could never quite get it to be smooth without it. I never trusted tracking with it because of that. Part of the issue is that it almost has too much variation in tone and compression behaviors. I found myself spending 20-30 min at a time dialing in the compression, when I could just grab an 1176, turn two knobs and in 20 seconds be done and move on.
Just my 2 cents. Ymmv
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Post by yotonic on Aug 18, 2023 14:38:59 GMT -6
Reissue 1176 don't have the sonic quality of the Chandlers. If you can get a UREI 1176 then you're ahead of the Chandler. The Distressor takes less learning curve to "do things" with it but it has a less analog vibe to me. However in much of todays music that's a mute point. The crisper sonic footprint of the Distressor is often fine or even exactly what someone is looking for. The Chandler is not as easy to use as an 1176. You'll need your recall sheets. It's also not as fast if that matters to you. I agree with Tbone's comments above. But if you are the type to put in the time and save your settings it's a great value.
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Post by spock on Aug 18, 2023 15:11:06 GMT -6
Looking to get a new compressor for bringing instruments forward and for tracking, Chandler germanium compressor is supposed to be there idea of a distressor, multi use, and it has a wet/dry knob, or should I get a distressor? mostly for tracking, any sugestions? rock electric guitars, bass, etc Hi Sparkey, For what it’s worth, the Germanium Compressor isn’t our idea of a Distressor, it’s simply its own ball of wax, unique. The Germanium Compressor is able to do a variety of things with its multiple knee types, some use it for tracking, mixing or even mastering. It really is a for the tweaked or sound designer. I hope that helps some. |
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Post by smashlord on Aug 18, 2023 17:29:56 GMT -6
Reissue 1176 don't have the sonic quality of the Chandlers. If you can get a UREI 1176 then you're ahead of the Chandler. Lot's of great options for 1176s these days that makes paying for a vintage unit unnecessary. MC77s are great, Serpent Splices can't be beat for the feature set (and sound as good as the Rev D I have used them alongside), and even though I have never used one, lots of people love the Audio Scape units. |
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Post by sparkey on Aug 19, 2023 14:49:05 GMT -6
the chandler RS660 looks really interesting, seawell did a great review, but its double in price of a distressor,
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Post by Ward on Aug 21, 2023 12:20:50 GMT -6
The Germanium is more of a specialized tool . . . much like a bridge diode comp (D Comp, Zener Neve 2254/33609 etc)
I'm not a real fan of the distressor compared to using a great 1176 BUT if you're thinking about transients as well? Use either a Transient Designer AND an 1176 or . . . . a Distressor does an ok job at both. YMMV.
FWIW, I don't presently own a distressor or Transient Designer.
I'm a big fan of FETs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2023 14:28:51 GMT -6
I’d take fuzz over plastic.
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Post by sparkey on Aug 22, 2023 12:18:30 GMT -6
I thought the germanium is a fet circuit? The Germanium is more of a specialized tool . . . much like a bridge diode comp (D Comp, Zener Neve 2254/33609 etc) I'm not a real fan of the distressor compared to using a great 1176 BUT if you're thinking about transients as well? Use either a Transient Designer AND an 1176 or . . . . a Distressor does an ok job at both. YMMV. FWIW, I don't presently own a distressor or Transient Designer. I'm a big fan of FETs |
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Post by Ward on Aug 22, 2023 13:59:45 GMT -6
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Post by matt on Aug 22, 2023 21:51:32 GMT -6
I recently purchased a pair of Germanium Comps and I'm loving them on guitar. I'm partial to the "Dirty Comp" circuit. They are very flexible but easy to dial in, with the "Mix" control being a key element of the design. IMO they do a different thing than my pair of Distressors, which have lived on kick and snare for years.
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