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Post by phdamage on Apr 25, 2023 18:52:16 GMT -6
How are you guys getting signal to your control room from your live room?
My control room is on the second floor and the live room is in the basement. I have a pair of 100 foot snakes down there in stage boxes. One 20 channel in the drum room and an 8 channel in the amp room. 100 feet is definitely excessive - one 75 footer and a 50 footer would do the job for sure, but the 100s were a good deal.
I’ve always skimped on these and as I’m trying to get a few more inputs down there I’m looking into other options. I’m capable of soldering my own connectors but damn, they’re still awfully expensive. The damn box alone with connectors is gonna be a few hundred at least. Debating getting a second 20 channel 100 footer and calling it a day. It’s a whirlwind or ProCo or something and I think it even has neutrik connectors. Mistake?
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Post by srb on Apr 25, 2023 20:13:17 GMT -6
I'm in the walls, 24 channels of Mogami 2549 to the CR and to a patchbay system. Had the wire pulled at construction. I did the soldering.
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Post by ericn on Apr 25, 2023 20:37:11 GMT -6
Most modern cheap snakes use a solderless Neutrik that pretty much suck. Since you can solder here is what I would do; buy a used snake, save some coin then make a bulk connector and higher end snake cable order. You have a snake to get by and you can make a long term choice if redoing and upgrading the others is worth it.
Stage boxes are not cheap ( Penn Elcom) I have 2 16x boxes I’m going to redo for some nice sub snakes they currently have the locking Neutrik TRS’s ironically solder- less, replacing them all for XLR and 25ft of Canare 16 ch (really have to see if I can become a dealer).
The other option; let’s get modern yeah, well since the live rig is going Cobranet I have to bring up the option of Ethernet, man subbing a 48ch big copper nightmare for a single high quality CAT5 is awesome, except the latency and the fact that unless you love the pre’s built into the snake your going to need remote control pre’s. But man The first time you coil up a CAT 5 instead of the big copper serpent, well you become a convert. Now also consider if you do some research and planning integrating a self mix system with a digital snake is pretty simple it becomes really attractive.
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Post by recordingengineer on Apr 25, 2023 20:44:50 GMT -6
Depends on how much time you want to give it. Many times, just getting more of what you already have is nice… Don’t have to think about it. Done. On the other hand, I’m working out of a ground-up home studio with 216 tie lines to a patch bay from 6 different rooms that are wall-mounted. Guess who wired each end too? Not fun! Which to go all depends on where you’re at with things… Getter-done or somewhat of a luxury? That’ll answer your question and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with either.
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Post by traceaudio on Apr 25, 2023 21:16:58 GMT -6
We do a bunch of installs for tie lines and see a mix of both. Sometimes we will do a panel that is a multipin elco and then use a 10-15’ elco to stage box so that you can land the tie lines next to a drum kit. Definitely don’t recommend running a cheap snake from guitar center in the walls, because when (not if) they fail, it’s a pain to pull out and start over. If you need metal work, parts, or maybe even need something turn key let me know and we’d be happy to quote you.
-Ben
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Post by winetree on Apr 25, 2023 23:32:33 GMT -6
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Post by phdamage on Apr 26, 2023 6:57:13 GMT -6
That is alarmingly cheap. But I think I’d rather pay $150 for one with neutrik connectors and (I assume) better cable |
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