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Post by stam on Apr 13, 2023 17:34:25 GMT -6
No EQ.
Clean SSL preamps.
Singer couldn't make it so I had to do it myself. Apologies in advance.
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Post by ab101 on Apr 13, 2023 17:58:57 GMT -6
Nice Josh. What tube are you using in the mk3?
addendum - I see on line that you are using the ef800. Great choice. Love them in my Heisermans.
But geesh - $1590 pre-order price! Fantastic!
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Post by stam on Apr 13, 2023 18:01:40 GMT -6
Thanks buddy.
Telefunken EF-800
I am lucky to have a very large stash of them
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Post by reddirt on Apr 13, 2023 21:12:57 GMT -6
Very , very close Josh ; A relative steal at that price.
Nice work and your vocal is very cool also.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by seawell on Apr 13, 2023 23:51:01 GMT -6
Nice Josh! It’s hard to imagine much room for improvement over the MK2, but it sounds like you’ve done it, congrats!
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Post by Ward on Apr 14, 2023 10:30:05 GMT -6
The detail in your Mark 3 is startling. On headphones, it's hard to tell them apart. Is it possible to get the two wave files so one could open them up on big speakers and listen very intently, please?
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Post by chessparov on Apr 14, 2023 10:58:11 GMT -6
Nothing to apologize about Josh. You're blessed with an exceptional voice.  Chris |
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Post by stam on Apr 14, 2023 13:50:14 GMT -6
The detail in your Mark 3 is startling. On headphones, it's hard to tell them apart. Is it possible to get the two wave files so one could open them up on big speakers and listen very intently, please? Thank you Ward. I will post the files on the description of the video next week so you can download them. |
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Post by winetree on Apr 14, 2023 15:13:41 GMT -6
The SA-47 sounds A little more up front or modern sounding than the U-47.
There is something about a well maintained, real Neumann U-47 that I never heard in any clone.
In most comparisons, It's more than just almost sounding the same frequency wise.
I hear the U-47 is a little more natural sounding, dimensional. It's hard to describe.
Good job on the SA-47
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Post by brenta on Apr 14, 2023 16:08:08 GMT -6
Sounds great. The Stam has a bit more air and the Neumann has a lusher midrange. I prefer the sound of the Neumann but prefer the price of the Stam haha.
I assume this mic, the Heiserman 47, and any other U47 clone that uses an EF800 tube is based on the "alternative tube U47" circuit that Oliver Archut came up with over a decade ago.
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Post by ab101 on Apr 14, 2023 18:18:46 GMT -6
What were the capsules on the Stam and Neumann?
My Heiserman with the H7 sounds a lot like the Neumann in this comparison.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 14, 2023 20:26:20 GMT -6
Sounds great. The Stam has a bit more air and the Neumann has a lusher midrange. I prefer the sound of the Neumann but prefer the price of the Stam haha. I assume this mic, the Heiserman 47, and any other U47 clone that uses an EF800 tube is based on the "alternative tube U47" circuit that Oliver Archut came up with over a decade ago. What happened with those dual tube 47 clones from a couple years ago that were all the rage? People decided that they didn’t actually sound like 47s? |
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Post by brenta on Apr 14, 2023 22:32:25 GMT -6
Sounds great. The Stam has a bit more air and the Neumann has a lusher midrange. I prefer the sound of the Neumann but prefer the price of the Stam haha. I assume this mic, the Heiserman 47, and any other U47 clone that uses an EF800 tube is based on the "alternative tube U47" circuit that Oliver Archut came up with over a decade ago. What happened with those dual tube 47 clones from a couple years ago that were all the rage? People decided that they didn’t actually sound like 47s? I think Signal Art uses the dual tube circuit in their U47/U48 clones and people seem to really like the sound. FLEA uses the EF12 which is similar to the original U47’s VF14 in that they are both metal tubes. Different approaches—they all seem to sound great but not exactly like an original U47 with VF14 tube. I think Ward has both the Signal Art (dual tube approach) and Heiserman (EF800), and I think they both mics use Heiserman capsules. He can probably give a lot more information on the differences in sound. |
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Post by teejay on Apr 15, 2023 8:29:59 GMT -6
What happened with those dual tube 47 clones from a couple years ago that were all the rage? People decided that they didn’t actually sound like 47s? I think Signal Art uses the dual tube circuit in their U47/U48 clones and people seem to really like the sound. FLEA uses the EF12 which is similar to the original U47’s VF14 in that they are both metal tubes. Different approaches—they all seem to sound great but not exactly like an original U47 with VF14 tube. I think Ward has both the Signal Art (dual tube approach) and Heiserman (EF800), and I think they both mics use Heiserman capsules. He can probably give a lot more information on the differences in sound. Ward can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Chad is using another capsule (possibly O.P.R.?), as I don't think he can access Heiserman capsules very easily anymore. Josh's sounds really great here. |
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Post by Ward on Apr 16, 2023 17:44:25 GMT -6
I think Ward has both the Signal Art (dual tube approach) and Heiserman (EF800), and I think they both mics use Heiserman capsules. He can probably give a lot more information on the differences in sound. You are correct, brenta I have a Heiserman H47 tube with both the K47 and M7 head baskets and a Single Arts 48. I can't speak for tskguy or cdkelly with regard to how easily it is to access Heiserman K47 capsules for Chad's 47 and 48 offerings, but can verify Chad is using OPR's capsule at the moment... but gives you the option of getting a Heiserman capsule. Also, Chad has built his 47 with an EF800 circuit. As for what I have, what I know and how I find them . . . . Heiserman 47- I have both the K47 and M7 head baskets. They are both different but retain a refined sound to them. The sound is best described as a more refined 47 sound but with an accentuated 9.86khz resonant frequency and more high end sheen to it . Signal Arts H48. Has the OPR capsule and uses the dual RCA 408 mini tube scheme.... uses both tubes at the same time and gets HOT. Not all 47 or 48 clones use two RCA408s. Some have 2 inside a metal shell and only use one of them. n the Neumann world, There is a difference in the sound of a 47 and a 48 (both in cardioid position). I have always preferred the 48, just like George Martin and some of the recording engineers over the years. The signal arts is more rounded off and BIG in tonal capture. vintage smooth. The Heiserman is brighter. The zsignal Arts |
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