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Post by kevinnyc on Jun 16, 2014 17:07:18 GMT -6
What are you guys liking these days? Currently in 500 series I'm rockin a Komit and a Sound Skulptor CP5176, both of which I love but I'm looking to add to the arsenal...my other outboard comps are not really quick enough...
What's your flavor of the month?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 17:13:25 GMT -6
TRANSIENT DESIGNER!
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Post by svart on Jun 16, 2014 17:42:03 GMT -6
Quick enough? You want a slowish attack to give the kick a little bit more smack.. an 1176 with attack all the way slow never fails.
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Post by jeromemason on Jun 16, 2014 18:09:14 GMT -6
I second this..... usually I won't mess around with the attack too much, I use eq for that, but I will pull back the sustain to match the song and it always makes it super punchy, then my parallel drum buss and squashed room will provide the sense of space that people usually try to use a compressor on the kick for. Another thing I use transient designer for in every single mix is guitars. I'll pull the attack up a good bit and pull the sustain darn near all the way down. The slappy hard hitting sound is addictive and really gives a mix a lot of energy. I'll run a parallel compressor under those as well with a touch of echoboy slap, the mix knob about 10 o'clock, usually a vari mu compressor in front of that. I'll ride that parallel track through the song... I call it my energy and space fader ha. I digress, but transient designer is just a wonderful plugin on the source, compression I usually almost always run parallel. But if you're looking for a good compressor for kick besides transient designer, I've always heard good things about the Daking fet one, if we're talking 500 series. |
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Post by kevinnyc on Jun 16, 2014 18:42:32 GMT -6
Interesting....
Don't know why the transient designer wasn't on my radar, when it clearly should have been. We have a front runner...
Svart the CP5176 does the 1176 thing in superb fashion...couldn't be happier.. Right now I'm favoring it on snare. Another one would feel right at home...
I've never played around with Daking gear...I suppose it's time...
I have a hunch a TD is in my near future though...
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Post by kevinnyc on Jun 16, 2014 18:46:19 GMT -6
Jerome I find your digression very interesting. Sounds intense and a great 2 fader energy control....
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 17, 2014 11:10:55 GMT -6
I have been using a pair of Great River PWM 501's on kick and snare during tracking a lot. They are great comps! There are some nice YouTube videos demoing them if you have any questions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 11:29:54 GMT -6
1176 Sucks on close mics, actually I think it might suck on drums. Blue on vocals, the Black occasionally I'll put on a drum bus to see if it gives me anything I like and it never does. Transient designer is freak badass, if you can DIY things I also love the SSL Channel compressor for kicks and snares.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2014 13:00:01 GMT -6
I have been using a pair of Great River PWM 501's on kick and snare during tracking a lot. They are great comps! There are some nice YouTube videos demoing them if you have any questions. I still can't get over that demo of the 501 on AG. Now I'm gassing again. Thanks |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2014 13:00:56 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Jun 17, 2014 13:06:10 GMT -6
1176 Sucks on close mics, actually I think it might suck on drums. Blue on vocals, the Black occasionally I'll put on a drum bus to see if it gives me anything I like and it never does. Transient designer is freak badass, if you can DIY things I also love the SSL Channel compressor for kicks and snares. Lay off the drugs, Jordo. Put the pipe down, Jordo!! 1176 on snare is the frickin bomb! It is the best application for any rev d through f. Absolutely perfect in no uncertain terms. Pretty damned good on kick too. I prefer APIs on toms and drum buss, but to each their own. So, in short to the OP's question. The 500 series Comp I would choose would be either the API525 (close enough to a 2500), a CAPI or similar clone and possibly the Serpent Audio LA3 clone. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 17, 2014 13:06:46 GMT -6
darned double-post, sorry...need a delete button handy...
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Post by Ward on Jun 17, 2014 13:07:16 GMT -6
Must everything be hard or soft? Is there no middle ground? Can't we all get along? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2014 13:13:36 GMT -6
Middlearthware
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Post by jeromemason on Jun 17, 2014 13:29:13 GMT -6
I've used both hardware and software and I felt like both of them did the exact same thing..... sometimes the software stuff won't be as aggressive, but TD feels the same to me, annnnddd you can use 100 of them  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 14:59:13 GMT -6
1176 Sucks on close mics, actually I think it might suck on drums. Blue on vocals, the Black occasionally I'll put on a drum bus to see if it gives me anything I like and it never does. Transient designer is freak badass, if you can DIY things I also love the SSL Channel compressor for kicks and snares. Lay off the drugs, Jordo. Put the pipe down, Jordo!! 1176 on snare is the frickin bomb! It is the best application for any rev d through f. Absolutely perfect in no uncertain terms. Pretty damned good on kick too. I prefer APIs on toms and drum buss, but to each their own. So, in short to the OP's question. The 500 series Comp I would choose would be either the API525 (close enough to a 2500), a CAPI or similar clone and possibly the Serpent Audio LA3 clone. I just don't like it, I definitely don't blame the gear I know it's a go to for loads of guys but something about that mushy FET sound only works on vocals for me. Opto for guitars, VCA for drums, FET for vocals. |
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Post by kevinnyc on Jun 17, 2014 19:19:46 GMT -6
I like the idea of a diy ssl channel comp. I do remember seeing those somewhere....
And if I'm not having a flashback I believe valley people have reintroduced some modules for the 500 series format..
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Post by jeromemason on Jun 17, 2014 20:18:09 GMT -6
Lay off the drugs, Jordo. Put the pipe down, Jordo!! 1176 on snare is the frickin bomb! It is the best application for any rev d through f. Absolutely perfect in no uncertain terms. Pretty damned good on kick too. I prefer APIs on toms and drum buss, but to each their own. So, in short to the OP's question. The 500 series Comp I would choose would be either the API525 (close enough to a 2500), a CAPI or similar clone and possibly the Serpent Audio LA3 clone. I just don't like it, I definitely don't blame the gear I know it's a go to for loads of guys but something about that mushy FET sound only works on vocals for me. Opto for guitars, VCA for drums, FET for vocals. I'm in this camp.... but I also am in the other camp too depending on the material. 96% of the time I use a DBX 160 parallel for snare.... nothing else can give you that sound, that I'm aware of. But sometimes if it's like hard stuff, I like an 1176 in parallel, you can really get a lot of ring when you blend it back in, if it's that style. Not a fan of fet on kick, don't really like anything on the kick besides TD. FET is the way to go on vox, and I like Opto on guitars too. That waves renaissance axx is pretty good on guitars too, i use it a lot on some guitar stuff. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 18, 2014 8:02:18 GMT -6
Opto for guitars but FET on vocals?
You kids, these days, and your crazy ways!
LA2a, CL1b and to a lesser extent, LA3a are de facto standards on vocals by almost everyone because they work beautifully. Adding an FET like a bluestripe or rev d 1176 before or after one is done for peak control, not for smearing, smudging, crushing, or 'mushing' the sound.
Playground. 3pm. Be there.
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 18, 2014 8:20:18 GMT -6
The PWM 501 is a no brainier.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 8:39:41 GMT -6
Opto for guitars but FET on vocals? You kids, these days, and your crazy ways! LA2a, CL1b and to a lesser extent, LA3a are de facto standards on vocals by almost everyone because they work beautifully. Adding an FET like a bluestripe or rev d 1176 before or after one is done for peak control, not for smearing, smudging, crushing, or 'mushing' the sound. Playground. 3pm. Be there. Actually the CL1b and 2a are go tos for backgrounds. Still like the blue stripe for vocals but I'm gonna grab the Sta level plug and give it a go one of these days. Maybe I can run some material though it and see how it compares to the HW with the guys here. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 20, 2014 8:42:45 GMT -6
sounds like a capital idea!
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