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Post by Quint on Jul 18, 2022 14:09:15 GMT -6
This seems to be the most popular Sound Anchors model out there, though the ADJ4 does interest me as well because of the shape and orientation of it's base legs and also because you can adjust it horizontally whereas you can't do that with the ADJ2.
Are these things still considered top of the heap these days? I did look at the Space Lab Lift, which seemed cool because it's motozised and can be lowered out of the way, if need be.
I'm not wanting to spend >$1,000 but that seems to be what this stuff costs, and I have too much other stuff going on to take on another diy project.
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Post by aremos on Jul 18, 2022 15:20:59 GMT -6
I have an offshoot of of the ADJ2 (custom made for Dutch & Dutch 8C's) & solid as anything I've ever seen.
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Post by ericn on Jul 18, 2022 15:36:21 GMT -6
If you want adjustable nothing better, but I’m cheap and the fixed has a slight advantage as far as isolation and stability. That said when it comes to the fixed stands there is no rocket science involved and pretty much any welder can throw together a decent clone. Oh and the shipping cost will bring you to tears.
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Post by Quint on Jul 18, 2022 16:11:10 GMT -6
I have an offshoot of of the ADJ2 (custom made for Dutch & Dutch 8C's) & solid as anything I've ever seen. There's actually somebody selling a pair of those 8Cs, with what I assume are the exact same stands, here in Austin right now. |
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Post by Quint on Jul 18, 2022 16:12:46 GMT -6
If you want adjustable nothing better, but I’m cheap and the fixed has a slight advantage as far as isolation and stability. That said when it comes to the fixed stands there is no rocket science involved and pretty much any welder can throw together a decent clone. Oh and the shipping cost will bring you to tears. IF, a fixed stand were at the same height as the cheapo stands I have right now, I'd be fine with fixed, as that height is just about right. I was just trying to future proof a bit so that I could always adjust it, as needed in the future. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 18, 2022 16:22:02 GMT -6
If you want adjustable nothing better, but I’m cheap and the fixed has a slight advantage as far as isolation and stability. That said when it comes to the fixed stands there is no rocket science involved and pretty much any welder can throw together a decent clone. Oh and the shipping cost will bring you to tears. IF, a fixed stand were at the same height as the cheapo stands I have right now, I'd be fine with fixed, as that height is just about right. I was just trying to future proof a bit so that I could always adjust it, as needed in the future. I get it, I have the stands I specifically ordered for use with the Otari Status in storage, can’t bring myself to sell them, waiting on my local welder to catch up for a custom pair for the Quested 3 ways. I looked at Sound anchor s again price wasn’t to bad till I got the shipping quote! |
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Post by Quint on Jul 18, 2022 16:27:37 GMT -6
IF, a fixed stand were at the same height as the cheapo stands I have right now, I'd be fine with fixed, as that height is just about right. I was just trying to future proof a bit so that I could always adjust it, as needed in the future. I get it, I have the stands I specifically ordered for use with the Otari Status in storage, can’t bring myself to sell them, waiting on my local welder to catch up for a custom pair for the Quested 3 ways. I looked at Sound anchor s again price wasn’t to bad till I got the shipping quote! Sweetwater quotes me $54 for shipping on FedEx Ground, so I don't think that's bad, considering the weight. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 18, 2022 17:07:26 GMT -6
I get it, I have the stands I specifically ordered for use with the Otari Status in storage, can’t bring myself to sell them, waiting on my local welder to catch up for a custom pair for the Quested 3 ways. I looked at Sound anchor s again price wasn’t to bad till I got the shipping quote! Sweetwater quotes me $54 for shipping on FedEx Ground, so I don't think that's bad, considering the weight. Damn that’s a great price for shipping! I think I paid more 10 years ago!😕 |
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Post by centralpark on Jul 19, 2022 1:12:25 GMT -6
Wow. Sound Anchors ADJ2's are $1150 a pair now. IIRC they were around $650-700 maybe 3-4 years ago.
The brand broke out of pro audio circles into the audophile world and I wonder if that demand has skyrocketed the price. While material costs have increased, I can't see materials alone being the reason for the price to increase like that.
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Post by ericn on Jul 19, 2022 8:41:34 GMT -6
Wow. Sound Anchors ADJ2's are $1150 a pair now. IIRC they were around $650-700 maybe 3-4 years ago. The brand broke out of pro audio circles into the audophile world and I wonder if that demand has skyrocketed the price. While material costs have increased, I can't see materials alone being the reason for the price to increase like that. They actually were big in audiophile first. |
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Post by Quint on Jul 19, 2022 9:46:30 GMT -6
I'm totally thinking of giving this a try. It seems pretty cool and it's way cheaper than the Space Lab Lift stands that I've seen for $1600.
I figure I could do this for $500, all in, and have a pair of stands that are not only sturdy but also will allow me to move the monitors out of the way of my larger monitors behind them (whenever I get them set up one of these days...).
I imagine I'd orient the monitors in the opposite direction from how he has them oriented, and I don't think I'd mess with the cable management thing he used. Still, this might be pretty cool.
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Post by winetree on Jul 19, 2022 13:13:29 GMT -6
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Post by Quint on Jul 19, 2022 13:26:43 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 19, 2022 18:31:33 GMT -6
I reluctantly bought Sound Anchors a while back. I built my last stands, sand filled PVC, but the SA are on another level. They are future proof in that no matter what desk height requirements I might have in the future, they will accommodate. So expensive, but solid as hell.
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Post by sirthought on Jul 19, 2022 22:50:39 GMT -6
I was looking further at the Monoprice options posted by Winetree. I don't know if this one would be sturdy enough, depending on your monitor speaker, but you could place it in more locations. And the price for two wouldn't be so bad compared to other choices. www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=36079 |
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Post by Quint on Jul 23, 2022 20:13:06 GMT -6
I was looking further at the Monoprice options posted by Winetree. I don't know if this one would be sturdy enough, depending on your monitor speaker, but you could place it in more locations. And the price for two wouldn't be so bad compared to other choices. www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=36079One downside of these is that they would have to be adjusted independently, and it would be nice to just got one button and have everything go where you want it. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 23, 2022 20:24:26 GMT -6
I was looking further at the Monoprice options posted by Winetree. I don't know if this one would be sturdy enough, depending on your monitor speaker, but you could place it in more locations. And the price for two wouldn't be so bad compared to other choices. www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=36079One downside of these is that they would have to be adjusted independently, and it would be nice to just got one button and have everything go where you want it. Agreed, but think of the cost and calibration that would be involved! This where you cut a stick to your ideal height and count the money in your wallet! |
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Post by Quint on Jul 23, 2022 20:28:25 GMT -6
One downside of these is that they would have to be adjusted independently, and it would be nice to just got one button and have everything go where you want it. Agreed, but think of the cost and calibration that would be involved! This where you cut a stick to your ideal height and count the money in your wallet! Well the whole point behind going this route would be because I specifically would want to be able to lower the near fields out of the way of some JBLs I've been meaning to soffit mount one of these days. If I wasn't ever going to soffit mount those JBLs, then I would agree, but it would be nice to be able to easily alternate between the near fields and soffit mains with a push of a button. And I'm not sure what you mean about calibration. The nice thing about using a motorized desk as a starting point is that both of the legs raise and lower together, meaning that both monitors would also raise and lower to the same heights together. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 24, 2022 18:11:01 GMT -6
Agreed, but think of the cost and calibration that would be involved! This where you cut a stick to your ideal height and count the money in your wallet! Well the whole point behind going this route would be because I specifically would want to be able to lower the near fields out of the way of some JBLs I've been meaning to soffit mount one of these days. If I wasn't ever going to soffit mount those JBLs, then I would agree, but it would be nice to be able to easily alternate between the near fields and soffit mains with a push of a button. And I'm not sure what you mean about calibration. The nice thing about using a motorized desk as a starting point is that both of the legs raise and lower together, meaning that both monitors would also raise and lower to the same heights together. If your mounting them in true soffits up high rather than flush at ear level you probably won’t have any problems, the 2 times I have heard a near field really affecting the sound of sofit mounted Westlake copies with the horn below the 2 15ins JBLs a simple hf boost on the crossover took care of the issue . I would check your angles in sketchup before I worried to much, even maybe make some quick stands out of 2x4 or PVC to see if I had an issue. Don’t get me wrong in theory you could have an issue but I would verify before throwing money at it. |
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Post by Quint on Jul 24, 2022 18:56:57 GMT -6
Well the whole point behind going this route would be because I specifically would want to be able to lower the near fields out of the way of some JBLs I've been meaning to soffit mount one of these days. If I wasn't ever going to soffit mount those JBLs, then I would agree, but it would be nice to be able to easily alternate between the near fields and soffit mains with a push of a button. And I'm not sure what you mean about calibration. The nice thing about using a motorized desk as a starting point is that both of the legs raise and lower together, meaning that both monitors would also raise and lower to the same heights together. If your mounting them in true soffits up high rather than flush at ear level you probably won’t have any problems, the 2 times I have heard a near field really affecting the sound of sofit mounted Westlake copies with the horn below the 2 15ins JBLs a simple hf boost on the crossover took care of the issue . I would check your angles in sketchup before I worried to much, even maybe make some quick stands out of 2x4 or PVC to see if I had an issue. Don’t get me wrong in theory you could have an issue but I would verify before throwing money at it. I'm not mounting them up high though. They will be down low at ear level, directly behind where my near fields sit. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 24, 2022 19:11:24 GMT -6
Yeah, I know many consider that to be soffits, but all the old school guys I know call it flush, Symantecs. Even then I really would suggest playing with a simple mock up first, your probably going to find you want the motorized stands, but you also might discover the theoretical triangle isn’t ideal and your not blocking the Mains. worse yet everyone knows that one guy who did what your planing to do and finds the position of the mains just doesn’t work!
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Post by Quint on Jul 24, 2022 20:56:14 GMT -6
Yeah, I know many consider that to be soffits, but all the old school guys I know call it flush, Symantecs. Even then I really would suggest playing with a simple mock up first, your probably going to find you want the motorized stands, but you also might discover the theoretical triangle isn’t ideal and your not blocking the Mains. worse yet everyone knows that one guy who did what your planing to do and finds the position of the mains just doesn’t work! So these JBL "mains" that I'm wanting to put in are 4410s. When I built out my studio, I left a space directly behind my console to eventually put in some soffit (flush) mounted monitors. The intent of this area was also to act as a rather large bass trap. So I may try to do a traditional flush mount, but it's more likely that I end up doing a "soft soffit", as it's called. Now I realize that 4410s may not be traditionally thought of as "mains" monitors, but they are certainly bigger than my near fields. Also, this is intended to be a bit of proof of concept for me for if/when I ever do get a full set of flush mounted mains like some ATCs or something. Additionally, I have some space constraint issues behind my console and flush mounting (sinking them into the bass traps) the JBLs will help in that regard, rather than trying to use them side by side with my nearfields. So I recognize that these JBLs may not end up sounding quite like I'd like them to, once flush mounted. Maybe they will though. In any case, that's still okay because it would still help provide me with some proof of concept for future endeavors and would also at least provide a nice set of relatively loud monitors that I can use during tracking, and then switch over to the nearfields for mixing. All of this, mind you, while also saving on space behind my console. As for mocking up, yes, that's the idea first. I'm mostly just doing my homework ahead of time for the motorized desk leg thing, to make sure I have some fleshed out ideas ready to go. I probably won't get around to actually trying that until after I get my JBLs flush mounted, which should finally be happening in the near future. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 24, 2022 21:46:01 GMT -6
Yeah, I know many consider that to be soffits, but all the old school guys I know call it flush, Symantecs. Even then I really would suggest playing with a simple mock up first, your probably going to find you want the motorized stands, but you also might discover the theoretical triangle isn’t ideal and your not blocking the Mains. worse yet everyone knows that one guy who did what your planing to do and finds the position of the mains just doesn’t work! So these JBL "mains" that I'm wanting to put in are 4410s. When I built out my studio, I left a space directly behind my console to eventually put in some soffit (flush) mounted monitors. The intent of this area was also to act as a rather large bass trap. So I may try to do a traditional flush mount, but it's more likely that I end up doing a "soft soffit", as it's called. Now I realize that 4410s may not be traditionally thought of as "mains" monitors, but they are certainly bigger than my near fields. Also, this is intended to be a bit of proof of concept for me for if/when I ever do get a full set of flush mounted mains like some ATCs or something. Additionally, I have some space constraint issues behind my console and flush mounting (sinking them into the bass traps) the JBLs will help in that regard, rather than trying to use them side by side with my nearfields. So I recognize that these JBLs may not end up sounding quite like I'd like them to, once flush mounted. Maybe they will though. In any case, that's still okay because it would still help provide me with some proof of concept for future endeavors and would also at least provide a nice set of relatively loud monitors that I can use during tracking, and then switch over to the nearfields for mixing. All of this, mind you, while also saving on space behind my console. As for mocking up, yes, that's the idea first. I'm mostly just doing my homework ahead of time for the motorized desk leg thing, to make sure I have some fleshed out ideas ready to go. I probably won't get around to actually trying that until after I get my JBLs flush mounted, which should finally be happening in the near future. Actually in the day a fair amount of 4410’s were mounted in traditional soffits and flush mounted. It was one of the favorites of guys who couldn’t afford the big boys, plus a hard flush mount gave them a nice bump in the lowend. I almost bought a pair a couple of years ago, could have probably made some good money flipping them today! |
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Post by Quint on Jul 24, 2022 22:00:55 GMT -6
So these JBL "mains" that I'm wanting to put in are 4410s. When I built out my studio, I left a space directly behind my console to eventually put in some soffit (flush) mounted monitors. The intent of this area was also to act as a rather large bass trap. So I may try to do a traditional flush mount, but it's more likely that I end up doing a "soft soffit", as it's called. Now I realize that 4410s may not be traditionally thought of as "mains" monitors, but they are certainly bigger than my near fields. Also, this is intended to be a bit of proof of concept for me for if/when I ever do get a full set of flush mounted mains like some ATCs or something. Additionally, I have some space constraint issues behind my console and flush mounting (sinking them into the bass traps) the JBLs will help in that regard, rather than trying to use them side by side with my nearfields. So I recognize that these JBLs may not end up sounding quite like I'd like them to, once flush mounted. Maybe they will though. In any case, that's still okay because it would still help provide me with some proof of concept for future endeavors and would also at least provide a nice set of relatively loud monitors that I can use during tracking, and then switch over to the nearfields for mixing. All of this, mind you, while also saving on space behind my console. As for mocking up, yes, that's the idea first. I'm mostly just doing my homework ahead of time for the motorized desk leg thing, to make sure I have some fleshed out ideas ready to go. I probably won't get around to actually trying that until after I get my JBLs flush mounted, which should finally be happening in the near future. Actually in the day a fair amount of 4410’s were mounted in traditional soffits and flush mounted. It was one of the favorites of guys who couldn’t afford the big boys, plus a hard flush mount gave them a nice bump in the lowend. I almost bought a pair a couple of years ago, could have probably made some good money flipping them today! That's in line with what I've heard about the 4410s. I bought them a few years ago for really cheap, always with the ultimate plan of flush mounting them. I'm just now finally getting around to it. But now that I'm also getting a nice set of nearfields, I don't want them to conflict with the JBLs, hence the proposal to use the desk legs. |
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