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Post by Johnkenn on May 28, 2022 12:08:04 GMT -6
Just wondering what the jump from Sonarworks to Trinnov would be like.
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Post by tasteliketape on May 28, 2022 12:50:49 GMT -6
Here’s a video. . It’s about him using the Trinnov
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Post by ml on May 28, 2022 13:19:00 GMT -6
Here’s a video. . It’s about him using the Trinnov Just watched this last night! I'm also curious as a sonarworks user if the upgrade to trinnov is that big of a difference? |
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Post by ml on May 28, 2022 13:33:54 GMT -6
Also while we are on the subject, how does the Genelec GLM SAM compare? Seems like a nice little package
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Post by Johnkenn on May 28, 2022 13:46:38 GMT -6
Everybody that has one seems to rave about it.
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Post by drbill on May 28, 2022 16:36:25 GMT -6
I considered it. I heard great things, but after talking with Hedback I instead chose to get the room "right". The Trinnov would have been simpler and cost a lot less. Ultimately, I'm happy with the approach I took.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 17:37:23 GMT -6
Also while we are on the subject, how does the Genelec GLM SAM compare? Seems like a nice little package They’re still Genelecs. |
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Post by Tbone81 on May 28, 2022 18:48:26 GMT -6
Also while we are on the subject, how does the Genelec GLM SAM compare? Seems like a nice little package Their room correction software works great. Too bad it’s proprietary. |
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Post by Blackdawg on May 28, 2022 20:33:09 GMT -6
Oh come on Dan, I've been testing out the 8341's (y'know the one's that cost nearly $6K a pair, won a metric ton of awards and kicked ass on every scientific review ever done on them).. They're epic! Im on 8351a's. I love them. New room is going to have 8351b's or 8361b's and W371s in it. I think the SAM stuff is awesome. Also, not to nitpick, but John. What are you hoping for that Sound ID doesn't offer you that the Trinnov does? Im not familiar with either enough to know if they are that different. They might not be? I know the Trinnov costs a lot more. |
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Post by indiehouse on May 28, 2022 21:28:53 GMT -6
I had a Trinnov for a short minute. The wow factor for me wasn’t so much the EQ correction, but the phase/smear correction. It just brought everything in focus, and shifted the center dead nuts. Thing is, I didn’t even realize how much my image was smeared and not centered until the Trinnov correction.
There’s a delay when using it, so no bueno for tracking. Also, I think you have to use the Trinnov DA, right? I can’t remember. Oh, and you have to use the Trinnov mic, which is sold separately and expensive.
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Post by ericn on May 28, 2022 22:42:58 GMT -6
The thing is after playing with both Dirac live and a trinnov I like the Dirac software better, but the conversion on the Trinnov kills those Mini DSP boxes. By the time you buy say a Lavry Blue frame and modules for the AES version of the Dirac your at the same price or higher so it is a wash. Then I play with a Lake or XTA Box with AES and while it’s all manual I find I can do less over all but get really really deep as far as x over filters and I throw up my hands and think there is no one right answer. Dirac plays better with di and bi poles though.
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Post by Blackdawg on May 29, 2022 2:29:46 GMT -6
I had a Trinnov for a short minute. The wow factor for me wasn’t so much the EQ correction, but the phase/smear correction. It just brought everything in focus, and shifted the center dead nuts. Thing is, I didn’t even realize how much my image was smeared and not centered until the Trinnov correction. There’s a delay when using it, so no bueno for tracking. Also, I think you have to use the Trinnov DA, right? I can’t remember. Oh, and you have to use the Trinnov mic, which is sold separately and expensive. That is what SAM does for me on the Genelecs. Gets the imaging perfect. |
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Post by indiehouse on May 29, 2022 5:28:58 GMT -6
The thing is after playing with both Dirac live and a trinnov I like the Dirac software better, but the conversion on the Trinnov kills those Mini DSP boxes. By the time you buy say a Lavry Blue frame and modules for the AES version of the Dirac your at the same price or higher so it is a wash. Then I play with a Lake or XTA Box with AES and while it’s all manual I find I can do less over all but get really really deep as far as x over filters and I throw up my hands and think there is no one right answer. Dirac plays better with di and bi poles though. You don’t have to use those boxes with Dirac, right? I’ve got it running on my Mac. I can use something like Audiojack for everything outside my DAW. Now, if I wanted to use it outside of my computer, like with a stereo, then yeah, for sure. |
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Post by indiehouse on May 29, 2022 5:38:06 GMT -6
I had a Trinnov for a short minute. The wow factor for me wasn’t so much the EQ correction, but the phase/smear correction. It just brought everything in focus, and shifted the center dead nuts. Thing is, I didn’t even realize how much my image was smeared and not centered until the Trinnov correction. There’s a delay when using it, so no bueno for tracking. Also, I think you have to use the Trinnov DA, right? I can’t remember. Oh, and you have to use the Trinnov mic, which is sold separately and expensive. That is what SAM does for me on the Genelecs. Gets the imaging perfect. I’ve been using the D&D’s with REW integration with success. |
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Post by allbuttonmode on May 30, 2022 5:29:44 GMT -6
I've had the ST-2 in my studio for a few years now. For me, it's a must-have tool. And as indiehouse says, although the eq correction is great, the phase and time correction was the real eye opener for me. |
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Post by ji43 on Jun 4, 2022 18:28:08 GMT -6
Also ST-2 user here, and agree that it's a must have tool for me...phase and time correction. Wouldn't want to work without it...using it via AES out of my Aurora(n) into Trinnov, and AES out of trinnov into an Avocet IIA, so still getting the benefits of the Crane Song DAC, though I'm sure the Trinnov DAC would work great as well. I also split the AES output of my Aurora(n) prior to the Trinnov, and go direct into Avocet DIG input 2, using an AES splitter cable so when tracking, I just hit a single button on my monitor controller and bypass trinnov and the latency.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2022 21:23:48 GMT -6
So how would I integrate this? I have an Apollo 6X that goes to a Convert 2 DA via optical.
Just occurring to me that the Apollo x6 only has spdif and adat…guess I could go out spdif to AES of the Trinnov, then digital out of the Trinnov into AES of the Convert, right?
It would be Apollo to Trinnov to Convert, correct? Really makes me want to sell the Apollo/Convert and just get one interface to deal with. Like something with really good conversion like the Apogee.
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Post by ragan on Jun 17, 2022 21:29:14 GMT -6
So how would I integrate this? I have an Apollo 6X that goes to a Convert 2 DA via optical. Just occurring to me that the Apollo x6 only has spdif and adat…guess I could go out spdif to AES of the Trinnov, then digital out of the Trinnov into AES of the Convert, right? It would be Apollo to Trinnov to Convert, correct? Really makes me want to sell the Apollo/Convert and just get one interface to deal with. Like something with really good conversion like the Apogee. That was a big draw for the Symphony for me. I was tired of having various Apollo/Burl/Dangerous combinations, just wanted to have one box handling everything in a way that I liked. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2022 21:32:46 GMT -6
Jeesh. The Symphony’s have skyrocketed in price. If I sold my Burl B2, Apollo x6 and Convert 2, I could very conservatively have around $5k to spend.
Buy a used 8x8 Symphony for $2900 and then half the Trinnov would be paid for. I’d have to buy a UAD Satellite though.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 17, 2022 21:35:19 GMT -6
So how would I integrate this? I have an Apollo 6X that goes to a Convert 2 DA via optical. Just occurring to me that the Apollo x6 only has spdif and adat…guess I could go out spdif to AES of the Trinnov, then digital out of the Trinnov into AES of the Convert, right? It would be Apollo to Trinnov to Convert, correct? Really makes me want to sell the Apollo/Convert and just get one interface to deal with. Like something with really good conversion like the Apogee. That was a big draw for the Symphony for me. I was tired of having various Apollo/Burl/Dangerous combinations, just wanted to have one box handling everything in a way that I liked. Yeah - the idea of all this Franken-cabling gives me heartburn and pause. Then the idea of having to sell all that shit at the same time makes me nervous. I’ve thought about selling the x6 and getting a blackface 16. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 21:36:11 GMT -6
Jeesh. The Symphony’s have skyrocketed in price. If I sold my Burl B2, Apollo x6 and Convert 2, I could very conservatively have around $5k to spend. Buy a used 8x8 Symphony for $2900 and then half the Trinnov would be paid for. I’d have to buy a UAD Satellite though. It's I/O modules / expansion that bleed you dry, I needed 32X32 and had a small heart attack once I'd priced it up. I'd still consider the Mk1's as well, they sound fantastic.. |
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Post by ragan on Jun 17, 2022 21:55:32 GMT -6
Symphony is a pretty expensive route, no doubt.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 23, 2022 20:14:51 GMT -6
Well, I did it. Should be here next week, but I’ll be out of town until the first. Then I’ve got to figure out how to use it.
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Post by sean on Jun 25, 2022 5:18:15 GMT -6
Well, I did it. Should be here next week, but I’ll be out of town until the first. Then I’ve got to figure out how to use it. Interested to hear your thoughts! I was close to pulling the trigger, did some rearranging, made some progress with the way the room sounds, and then after talking with a friend I’m going to do some construction, which is still less than a Trinnov. Who knows…maybe I’ll still need a Trinnov…but right now having so many panels in a small room is pretty claustrophobic and make the room (especially the ceiling) too low. Finding that compromise between a good sounding room and an inspiring room has been my biggest struggle for sure |
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