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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 20, 2022 5:55:34 GMT -6
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Post by enlav on Feb 20, 2022 9:17:10 GMT -6
Just a thought, but doesn't this tend to go on sale for 29.99 at times too?
Not that it isn't worth this price. I preferred the MC77 plugin over some of the hardware options (in particular, the UA reissued 1176) in that thread sometime last year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2022 9:43:43 GMT -6
Bright as the sun.
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 20, 2022 11:31:50 GMT -6
The Purple hardware is quite bright to my memory, as well. I think they captured reality on that front. |
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Post by christophert on Feb 21, 2022 5:00:25 GMT -6
The hardware MC77 is not bright - just a little bit cleaner than a vintage 1176, and a bit more open in the top end.
I still use one here on snare. A great vibrant snare compressor.
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Post by theshea on Feb 21, 2022 7:00:37 GMT -6
i find the mc77 sounds just like my klark teknik 1176 ... i am happy with both and i mix on the dark side so a tiny bit of brightness is welcome (to me).
but i dont find it too bright.
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Post by ragan on Feb 21, 2022 11:08:03 GMT -6
Probably my favorite ITB 1176
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Post by notneeson on Feb 21, 2022 14:26:07 GMT -6
Probably my favorite ITB 1176 One of the very few plugins (only?) where I've had it on a vocal. Started to wonder if I was over-processing. Removed the Purple, and then immediately realized the vocals no long "sat right" tonally. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 21, 2022 14:57:35 GMT -6
The hardware MC77 is not bright - just a little bit cleaner than a vintage 1176, and a bit more open in the top end. I still use one here on snare. A great vibrant snare compressor. One man's open is another man's bright, maybe? Regardless, I like the plugin and use it. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 21, 2022 15:57:33 GMT -6
Or those who call it bright, preferred rolled off top end ?
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Post by theshea on Feb 22, 2022 0:12:32 GMT -6
i believe other comps dull the signal more. thats why mc77 seems bright in comparison.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 10:11:55 GMT -6
i believe other comps dull the signal more. thats why mc77 seems bright in comparison. No, it’s all distortion like a blue stripe 1176 or a distressor. just zippier distortion than the classic black 1176. The plug-in has digital nasties and aliasing grunge from being your typical dysfunctional 1176 emulation with treble saturation on top of it. If you want clean hardware FET comp, Daking. Cleaner brighter plug-in that’s easy to wrap your head around, Goodhertz Faraday Limiter. Goodhertz doesn’t really go on sale though and neither do the 1176 splat. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 25, 2022 7:54:46 GMT -6
i believe other comps dull the signal more. thats why mc77 seems bright in comparison. No, it’s all distortion like a blue stripe 1176 or a distressor. just zippier distortion than the classic black 1176. The plug-in has digital nasties and aliasing grunge from being your typical dysfunctional 1176 emulation with treble saturation on top of it. If you want clean hardware FET comp, Daking. Cleaner brighter plug-in that’s easy to wrap your head around, Goodhertz Faraday Limiter. Goodhertz doesn’t really go on sale though and neither do the 1176 splat. Cynical but accurate A.F.  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 25, 2022 8:15:53 GMT -6
re:the reference to Daking, I really appreciate the sonics of my Daking pre, haven’t heard or used a Daking comp, but I thought likely clean and euphoric: keeping my eyes peeled for a used one.
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Post by mrholmes on Feb 25, 2022 8:22:02 GMT -6
i find the mc77 sounds just like my klark teknik 1176 ... i am happy with both and i mix on the dark side so a tiny bit of brightness is welcome (to me). but i dont find it too bright.
+1 Can sound extremely close using ears not numbers...
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Post by craigmorris74 on Feb 25, 2022 8:37:37 GMT -6
i find the mc77 sounds just like my klark teknik 1176 ... i am happy with both and i mix on the dark side so a tiny bit of brightness is welcome (to me). but i dont find it too bright.
+1 Can sound extremely close using ears not numbers...
I posted a HW vs plugin test a while back, and nobody could tell the difference between the 77 plug and HW. |
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Post by mrholmes on Feb 25, 2022 8:39:59 GMT -6
+1 Can sound extremely close using ears not numbers...
I posted a HW vs plugin test a while back, and nobody could tell the difference between the 77 plug and HW.
That's interesting, you still have the files...aka LINK?
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Post by craigmorris74 on Feb 25, 2022 8:51:40 GMT -6
I posted a HW vs plugin test a while back, and nobody could tell the difference between the 77 plug and HW.
That's interesting, you still have the files...aka LINK?
It was on this forum. The files would still be there. Did a quick search and couldn't find it. What's interesting is the 2 HW units have modern transformers and should have more bottom than the originals with O-12's. One person might have identified the 77 plug as bright, but it was in a positive way. |
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Post by enlav on Feb 25, 2022 9:19:13 GMT -6
realgearonline.com/thread/13296/compressor-comparisonHere's the link. The comment about brightness might be me - my quote from the thread: "# and # both feel like the air/top end is being attenuated in some way, # to a lesser degree, and # the least." I'm censoring the letters just in case someone wants to go in blind. In that situation, (if my memory serves right, It was a drum loop) I think I wanted the top end retained, or apparently brightened. I don't remember if we had a "dry" signal to compare. But as I might have mentioned in that thread, the few times I've used the reissued UA 76, I wasn't actually as big a fan as just using the UAD plugs that studio had, so my opinion is surely skewed.
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Post by craigmorris74 on Feb 25, 2022 11:17:10 GMT -6
When I've done hyperfocused listening of 1176 HW and plugs, the biggest difference that I detect is on the release. I can never get a plugin release to behave just like hardware, which is odd, that part should be easier to get right. When you compare waveforms on the slower release times, HW and plugs look different, but I could never pick one from the other just focusing on the attack when listening.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 12:52:23 GMT -6
When I've done hyperfocused listening of 1176 HW and plugs, the biggest difference that I detect is on the release. I can never get a plugin release to behave just like hardware, which is odd, that part should be easier to get right. When you compare waveforms on the slower release times, HW and plugs look different, but I could never pick one from the other just focusing on the attack when listening. The plug-in emulations simply don’t have the bandwidth of the transistor to switch the side-chain filter between fast attack, fast release, and slow release properly. Doing this with a purely digital compressor is difficult. Component modeled? Man nothing seems to work well except as a special effect dirt box or some weirdly behaving thing like the Fuse VCL-373 or VCL-515. |
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