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Post by GreaterSociety on Sept 20, 2021 9:18:43 GMT -6
If you were starting a studio from scratch and wanted to include a few guitar cabs that would give you versatility in capturing different guitar sounds, what would you use? I know the simplest approach would be a handful of 1x12 (and presumably some 1x10) cabs with different speakers in them, since that allows you to isolate individual speakers in the cleanest way possible.
But I think there might be something to be said for 2x12 cabinets (or 2x10 cabinets) with different speakers in them, since it can create a lot of versatility. You can mic only one side of the cab if you want that speaker and not the other one, it's easy to just slide the mic over if you want to try out the other speaker, and the one cab can let you capture 2 different speakers and blend them, if you mic them both up. I know capturing one speaker in a 2x12 isn't the same as capturing that same speaker isolated in a 1x12, in terms of the purity of the sound you're getting from the speaker, but is the added versatility worth it the diminished purity?
The 2x12 is also going to be more likely to handle the output of more powerful amps (such as high gain 100W amps) in a way that a 1x12 likely isn't, unless you have a particularly high power handling speaker in it.
Also: what style of speakers would you make sure you have covered, so that you have a good range of tonal options (e.g., Alnico Blue, Greenback, V30, etc)?
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Post by svart on Sept 20, 2021 9:21:37 GMT -6
2x12 mesa oversized. Those come with mesa-specific V30's. I'm not much of a fan of 4x12's for recording. Too much woof.
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Post by srb on Sept 20, 2021 11:02:58 GMT -6
If going for a 2-by cabinet, having one ceramic magnet speaker and the other AlNiCo can yield a nice option in choosing how/which to mic up on the cabinet, and the best of both worlds when picking up the cab from a greater distance.
I tend to prefer open back most often. Close-backed has its place, though.
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Post by thecolourfulway on Sept 20, 2021 12:41:59 GMT -6
Mmm nothing sounds like a 4x10, my absolute favorite….superior focused crunch, shimmering clean and PUNCH…worth having one if you can find it…
PS definitely wanna second that suggestion to mix speaker types which gives you micing options! I have two greenbacks and two OG fender alnicos in my 4x10. Alnicos have the punch and sparkle, greenies have the crunch
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Post by Tbone81 on Sept 20, 2021 12:58:13 GMT -6
I have a Marshall 4x12, with two g12 celestions and two vintage 30’s. Sounds great, very midrange-y, very classic sound with options of micing either set of speakers. Ny second cab is an Orange 2x12. It’s similar in construction to the Mesa cabs. It’s got tons of low end and a very meaty sound. I think it came with vintage 30’s but I could be misremembering. Between the two I can cover a lot of ground.
For what it’s worth I prefer closed back cabinets, I fined that they have a tighter sound which works good for the style I generally work on.
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Post by phdamage on Sept 20, 2021 21:29:52 GMT -6
I do love my oversized Mesa 4x12 with v30s but i don’t think it’s the best fit for non-aggressive music. I really like my 4x12 with X pattern Fanes - m65 and h75. Much rounder sound. Definitely benefits to both.
I guess if you’re doing one cab and prefer 2x12 maybe go Matchless style and pair a v30 and a geeenback?
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Post by pfhuck on Sept 20, 2021 23:47:17 GMT -6
I have a GK ported 2x12 with a v30 and GT70.
Gig rig. F'n rips.
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Post by levon on Sept 21, 2021 3:48:28 GMT -6
2x12 mesa oversized. Those come with mesa-specific V30's. I'm not much of a fan of 4x12's for recording. Too much woof. 4x12s are great for recording. But you need to be able to play them loud in a good-sized room. Otherwise, I have a Marshall 2x12 with V30s that sounds great too. Depends on the kind of music you record. Mesa Thiele 1x12 with an EV 12 is a good alternative. Or go for combo amps.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Sept 21, 2021 5:54:28 GMT -6
2x12 mesa oversized. Those come with mesa-specific V30's. I'm not much of a fan of 4x12's for recording. Too much woof. I have one of these cabs too. Its a great cab. I don't think the mesa V30s is much different. They use the same cones as the Chinese ones.. The year of manufacture makes much more difference. Anything before 2005 has a smoother top end due to the pulp composition of the cone. |
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Post by robschnapf on Sept 21, 2021 14:13:50 GMT -6
You need open back and closed back.
I have 2 4x12s one with vintage 30s and the other with old greenbacks.
Scumback makes great period correct spot on celestion style speakers.
That covers those bases well.
I would think an open back 2x12 or 12 “,10” cabinet would be handy for combo stuff.
WGS and Weber have been very successful for me.
Also always good to have alnico blues around.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 21, 2021 15:30:25 GMT -6
Almost anything can work, as long as it suits the amplifier.
My most-recorded is probably an open back 2x12. Speaker types are all over the place. American/British, ceramic/alnico. My "best bet" is the 30 watt "celestion" style speakers. Currently I have a cab set up with WGS Reaper 30's and it's pretty magical. So this is my 'versatile' pick a 2x12 with 25 or 30 watt celestion style speakers.
Also like having 4x12s around. I have a classic Marshall 1960A with the G12T75 speakers and it's pretty iconic. Then there's the X pattern Avatar with Classic Lead 80s and Eminence Texas Heats. That's a special sauce cabinet, super tight and punchy.
Been using 1x12's lately since they fit in my current setup (limited space.) A far cry from when I had two 4x12s side by side in this small room.
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Post by ericn on Sept 21, 2021 19:12:51 GMT -6
Closed back 2x12 with vintage Celestions and an open back with JBL E or D 120’s would cover a lot of ground
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