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Post by Quint on Aug 24, 2021 14:50:02 GMT -6
Anybody here use the insert on your Stam 1073? I'm just curious because I'm low on remaining snake connections to all of my preamps and I'm debating whether or not I want to eat up channels to utilize the inserts.
For that matter, and on a related note, I've asked Stam about using a "Y" cable to connect to the mic input and line input, but haven't heard back yet. Anybody done this? Any potential problems with this? I'm asking for the same reason as I did with the insert question above. It'd be nice if I could use a "Y" cable to save on having to use two channels, one for mic and one for line.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 24, 2021 15:44:43 GMT -6
Anybody here use the insert on your Stam 1073? I'm just curious because I'm low on remaining snake connections to all of my preamps and I'm debating whether or not I want to eat up channels to utilize the inserts. For that matter, and on a related note, I've asked Stam about using a "Y" cable to connect to the mic input and line input, but haven't heard back yet. Anybody done this? Any potential problems with this? I'm asking for the same reason as I did with the insert question above. It'd be nice if I could use a "Y" cable to save on having to use two channels, one for mic and one for line. I’ve tried it before and it works fine…it’s just sooooo easy to pull up the plug. |
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Post by Quint on Aug 24, 2021 15:57:36 GMT -6
Anybody here use the insert on your Stam 1073? I'm just curious because I'm low on remaining snake connections to all of my preamps and I'm debating whether or not I want to eat up channels to utilize the inserts. For that matter, and on a related note, I've asked Stam about using a "Y" cable to connect to the mic input and line input, but haven't heard back yet. Anybody done this? Any potential problems with this? I'm asking for the same reason as I did with the insert question above. It'd be nice if I could use a "Y" cable to save on having to use two channels, one for mic and one for line. I’ve tried it before and it works fine…it’s just sooooo easy to pull up the plug. Meaning that, ultimately, you don't use the insert much and just use a plugin instead? I'm not sure if I understood your response. |
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 24, 2021 18:48:00 GMT -6
Do you mean ‘line in’?
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Post by Quint on Aug 24, 2021 18:56:43 GMT -6
It was a two part question. I realize that the title of the thread only reflects part one of my question. 1. Is asking about the insert. The Stam 1073 has an insert between the preamp and eq. I realize a lot of other 1073 clones may not have an insert, if this is causing any confusion. 2. Is asking about using one snake channel, connected to a "y" cable to provide input to both the mic input AND the line input. The reason behind both of these questions is that the insert AND line input each take up an additional channel on my snakes and I'm running low on available spare channels, which I might prefer to instead use for additional preamps. So I'm: 1. Asking if anybody is using the insert on their Stam to help determine if I want to bother using up a snake channel for that. 2. Asking if you can get away with using a "Y" cable to use one snake channel to feed into the mic and line inputs. I have a Vintech 473 with separate mic and line inputs and I asked them if this would cause any loading issues or otherwise, to which they replied it would not. So, with the Vintech, I'm able to not tie up another four snake channels by using four "Y" cables. I'm hoping to do the same with the Stam, but I'm not sure if this will cause any issues, as I imagine the Stam is wired at least a little differently. |
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 24, 2021 19:20:25 GMT -6
Ah, thanks for the clarification. I’d like to know this as well. I haven’t been able to use my line in’s on my Stam because I’m out of channels.
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Post by Tbone81 on Aug 24, 2021 21:39:48 GMT -6
Using a Y-cable would make the circuit unbalanced. That may or may not cause problems.
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Post by Quint on Aug 25, 2021 1:03:18 GMT -6
Using a Y-cable would make the circuit unbalanced. That may or may not cause problems. No. Everything would remain balanced. Not a "y" cable like you might think of an insert cable. I mean a true split. Everything remains balanced no different than it would if you took a mult off your patchbay. Maybe it would help if I called it a splitter cable? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 25, 2021 22:28:32 GMT -6
It was a two part question. I realize that the title of the thread only reflects part one of my question. 1. Is asking about the insert. The Stam 1073 has an insert between the preamp and eq. I realize a lot of other 1073 clones may not have an insert, if this is causing any confusion. 2. Is asking about using one snake channel, connected to a "y" cable to provide input to both the mic input AND the line input. The reason behind both of these questions is that the insert AND line input each take up an additional channel on my snakes and I'm running low on available spare channels, which I might prefer to instead use for additional preamps. So I'm: 1. Asking if anybody is using the insert on their Stam to help determine if I want to bother using up a snake channel for that. 2. Asking if you can get away with using a "Y" cable to use one snake channel to feed into the mic and line inputs. I have a Vintech 473 with separate mic and line inputs and I asked them if this would cause any loading issues or otherwise, to which they replied it would not. So, with the Vintech, I'm able to not tie up another four snake channels by using four "Y" cables. I'm hoping to do the same with the Stam, but I'm not sure if this will cause any issues, as I imagine the Stam is wired at least a little differently. Is the insert post pre? I just tried it once. But yes, I was saying I didn’t use the eq as a dedicated hardware insert because using a 1073 plug to add 2db of 10kHz et al is satisfying enough to me. |
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Post by Quint on Aug 26, 2021 3:49:23 GMT -6
It was a two part question. I realize that the title of the thread only reflects part one of my question. 1. Is asking about the insert. The Stam 1073 has an insert between the preamp and eq. I realize a lot of other 1073 clones may not have an insert, if this is causing any confusion. 2. Is asking about using one snake channel, connected to a "y" cable to provide input to both the mic input AND the line input. The reason behind both of these questions is that the insert AND line input each take up an additional channel on my snakes and I'm running low on available spare channels, which I might prefer to instead use for additional preamps. So I'm: 1. Asking if anybody is using the insert on their Stam to help determine if I want to bother using up a snake channel for that. 2. Asking if you can get away with using a "Y" cable to use one snake channel to feed into the mic and line inputs. I have a Vintech 473 with separate mic and line inputs and I asked them if this would cause any loading issues or otherwise, to which they replied it would not. So, with the Vintech, I'm able to not tie up another four snake channels by using four "Y" cables. I'm hoping to do the same with the Stam, but I'm not sure if this will cause any issues, as I imagine the Stam is wired at least a little differently. Is the insert post pre? I just tried it once. But yes, I was saying I didn’t use the eq as a dedicated hardware insert because using a 1073 plug to add 2db of 10kHz et al is satisfying enough to me. The insert is between the preamp and eq but the line in is before the preamp. In the context of the insert, I'd probably only ever use it during tracking, if I felt I needed a compressor between the preamp and eq. Otherwise, I'd just use the line input if I needed to use the eq during mixing. |
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Post by Quint on Sept 1, 2021 18:09:03 GMT -6
So, I heard back from Teo at Stam. He said using a splitter cable to run to the mic and line inputs would cause potential impedance irregularities. I suppose this is understandable, given that the Stam doesn't have a mic/line input selector switch, unlike my Vintech 473 which does have such a switch and does work with a splitter cable.
So there's that. Oh, well...
However, I'm still curious about who is or isn't using the insert on their Stam's? The only real reason to use it would be to put a compressor between the preamp/line input and the eq.
I'm not sure how many other Neve clones even have an insert but, for those that do, is anybody using the insert on their Stam or any other Neve clone?
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