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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 14:21:35 GMT -6
The price of the midiverb II has triple or quintupled depending on condition. They’re time bombs that will need a ton of maintenance too.
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Post by Chad on May 31, 2021 14:24:58 GMT -6
In five years, 1968–1985 U87's will be like U67's are today. $10K +
I know this, because... I used to own a dozen of them just a couple of years ago. They've already more than doubled in price since that time.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 14:26:14 GMT -6
None of the clones! I’ll bet on Josephson and Chandler mics, Shadow Hills, Crane Song, DW Fearn. I'm willing to bet you that some of today's audioscape 'clones' are going to increase in value as they are made with a substantial amount of unobtanium parts. They aren't making any more NOS 6386s for example, and there are a whole host of parts in their EQPs and MEQs that are getting harder and harder to find. And their forthcoming Fairchild clone is just stupid ambitious. I have serious doubts if it'll be possible to make more than 200 of them before key components are all but gone. But this is just a personal opinion, not the official word of audioscape. However, those in manufacturing 'clones' and 'inspired by' vintage designs are acutely aware of supply chain crunches that are coming for certain recreations. Buy soon. Do not delay. Supplies really are running out. The Slovaks (?) are making 6386 again but the pentode and vintage transistor apocalypse hit long ago. This is why it’s so important to develop new gear! Most of the pentode clones and reissues have not been great. The same with the 1176 and nos parts leveling amplifiers. Mass production is impossible yet the market refuses to buy new gear anymore. Everyone wants an ersatz clone or a decent recreation.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 14:27:34 GMT -6
In five years, 1968–1985 U87's will be like U67's are today. $10K + I know this, because... I used to own a dozen of them just a couple of years ago. They've already more than doubled in price since that time. Who can afford these prices in today’s industry? Certainly not the working professionals and studios run as for profit businesses rather than vanity projects. A pair of u67 is a small business loan. Imagine telling a bank that you need some 60s mics for retro music or that you’re going to process everything to hell itb with dirty plugins and need expensive distortion to hide the imd and aliasing.
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Post by Chad on May 31, 2021 14:30:55 GMT -6
In five years, 1968–1985 U87's will be like U67's are today. $10K + I know this, because... I used to own a dozen of them just a couple of years ago. They've already more than doubled in price since that time. Who can afford these prices in today’s industry? Certainly not the working professionals and studios run as for profit businesses rather than vanity projects. I agree. I would never do what I did a few years ago (buy a bunch of U87's to test them out) with today's prices. That would be nuts.
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Post by Ward on May 31, 2021 15:00:36 GMT -6
I'm willing to bet you that some of today's audioscape 'clones' are going to increase in value as they are made with a substantial amount of unobtanium parts. They aren't making any more NOS 6386s for example, and there are a whole host of parts in their EQPs and MEQs that are getting harder and harder to find. And their forthcoming Fairchild clone is just stupid ambitious. I have serious doubts if it'll be possible to make more than 200 of them before key components are all but gone. But this is just a personal opinion, not the official word of audioscape. However, those in manufacturing 'clones' and 'inspired by' vintage designs are acutely aware of supply chain crunches that are coming for certain recreations. Buy soon. Do not delay. Supplies really are running out. The Slovaks (?) are making 6386 again . . . SNIP . . . Definitely not the same as the NOS. I know what Chris and Charlie went through trying to make them work - to no avail. I believe drbill and matt@IAA had similar conversations with them at the time.
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Post by chessparov on May 31, 2021 15:52:44 GMT -6
Whenever Klaus retires, those microphones he modded will zoom up too. Chris
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Post by gouge on May 31, 2021 16:08:56 GMT -6
What if its a plug.
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Post by chessparov on May 31, 2021 16:18:18 GMT -6
I wouldn't be shocked. Chris
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Post by Blackdawg on May 31, 2021 21:07:34 GMT -6
I'd throw in Daking into the value gain area. I wanted ot buy a pair of FETII comps for like 1500-1700 and now I'll be spending probably closer to 2k or more for that.
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Post by sean on May 31, 2021 21:50:29 GMT -6
Inward Connections Vac Rac, for sure, is the first example that comes to mind
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Post by chessparov on May 31, 2021 23:25:21 GMT -6
In the cheap seats also the EV 635a, if/when they discontinue it, like the RE16 recently. Chris
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Post by Omicron9 on Jun 1, 2021 11:17:04 GMT -6
Good question. I'm wondering if Syteks will get crazy expensive. I had two. Wasn't using one of them and sold it a few months ago for more than I paid. No plans to part with the other, as it is in constant use, but I wouldn't be surprised to see these prices going continually up now that Syteks are now unobtainium and also truly fine kit.
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Post by jmoose on Jun 1, 2021 14:35:56 GMT -6
I'd throw in Daking into the value gain area. I wanted ot buy a pair of FETII comps for like 1500-1700 and now I'll be spending probably closer to 2k or more for that. The 90s era Daking gear, his original 52270 pre/EQ and 91579 fet comps have been going up & up IF you can even find 'em. I have a pair of 52270 and have been looking for another pair for a long while now. They don't seem to come up very often and the last pair I saw was asking close to $5k which is getting kinda rich for me, but I totally get it. Another rarity these days is Oliver Archut's Tab Funkenwerk gear... its just not out there people that have pieces aren't letting them go. And if they do its going for a couple times the original price tags. The Lucas microphones put together by Terry Manning and Oliver are equally crazy on the second hand market. There's a pair on reverb right now for a cool $20 thousand tacos. I think originally they were a tick under $4k? Jeff Roberts (who did the bodies & metalwork) offered me a build slot back then... Win some lose some.
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Post by ab101 on Jun 1, 2021 14:42:13 GMT -6
I wonder if anyone has had a chance to use the UM25C - Tim Campbell capsule? Mentioning Oliver Archut reminded me of that mic that I always wanted to try. Maybe that will be a highly sought after microphone, if not already.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 20:37:23 GMT -6
In the cheap seats also the EV 635a, if/when they discontinue it, like the RE16 recently. Chris Music market is in the toilet. The RE20 and EV635a are super popular in broadcast so they will not be discontinued.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 20:38:46 GMT -6
I'd throw in Daking into the value gain area. I wanted ot buy a pair of FETII comps for like 1500-1700 and now I'll be spending probably closer to 2k or more for that. You can always just go fet iii if you don’t mind the loss of the output transformer.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 2, 2021 21:44:15 GMT -6
I'd throw in Daking into the value gain area. I wanted ot buy a pair of FETII comps for like 1500-1700 and now I'll be spending probably closer to 2k or more for that. You can always just go fet iii if you don’t mind the loss of the output transformer. Nah I also want the stepped switches.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 2, 2021 22:09:14 GMT -6
In the cheap seats also the EV 635a, if/when they discontinue it, like the RE16 recently. Chris Music market is in the toilet. The RE20 and EV635a are super popular in broadcast so they will not be discontinued. I hope you're right, and that would be surprising to drop the 635a. If they make more $$ on the hotter/Neodymium RE50, I wouldn't be totally shocked though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 22:31:56 GMT -6
Music market is in the toilet. The RE20 and EV635a are super popular in broadcast so they will not be discontinued. I hope you're right, and that would be surprising to drop the 635a. If they make more $$ on the hotter/Neodymium RE50, I wouldn't be totally shocked though. These stores can't keep EV635a in stock. It's a super popular tank interview mic. So many people use RE20, there would be outrage if it was discontinued. BTW I rewatched Private Parts a while back and there are RE20s all over that movie. Great product placement.
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Post by Ward on Jun 3, 2021 7:33:59 GMT -6
News flash: The audioscape V-Comp supply is almost gone!! The new V-Comp+ will launch soon. Thus, the original V-Comp will be a collector's item. <hehe>
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Post by plinker on Jun 4, 2021 0:03:54 GMT -6
In the cheap seats also the EV 635a, if/when they discontinue it, like the RE16 recently. Chris Did they really discontinue the 16?? Damn!
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Post by drbill on Jun 4, 2021 9:53:32 GMT -6
The new V-Comp+ will launch soon. Whaaaat? You can't get away with dropping a bomb like that? What's the +? Wet Dry mix? Stereo link? Come on man.... Ps - glad I've got a pair.....
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Post by brenta on Jun 4, 2021 10:41:34 GMT -6
I think it would have to be gear that is no longer being manufactured, which will push the supply/demand equation as old ones crap out or get scooped up. The vintage U87 would be a candidate at the higher end. At the lower end, I could see stuff like the old DBX 160XT's or Aphex 651's double in value pretty easily.
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Post by seawell on Jun 4, 2021 11:04:26 GMT -6
Avalon & Pendulum gear comes to mind.
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