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Post by mrholmes on Apr 3, 2021 9:56:48 GMT -6
I work a lot ITB during the pandemic and I think it will be my preference even after the pandemic. The plug in was on sale and I bought it for 9.99.
But I don't understand it. OK it's a resonant filter, but I can have this with my stock logic EQ too. Here on RGO a lot of people were raving about it, teach me the magic - please...
Cheers Holmes
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Post by Guitar on Apr 3, 2021 10:32:00 GMT -6
I think it's OK. Needs a gain knob.
The Low Rider is the standout sound to me, can get a huge low end on synths or drums.
I am also in a mediocre mood and it's possible I'll improve my opinion when I use it more.
I think it might be better than the UAD VOG or at least it was on the track I used it on today. Just the low end alone, then you have the tilt and the low pass filter on top of that.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 3, 2021 10:52:06 GMT -6
I think it's OK. Needs a gain knob. The Low Rider is the standout sound to me, can get a huge low end on synths or drums. I am also in a mediocre mood and it's possible I'll improve my opinion when I use it more. I think it might be better than the UAD VOG or at least it was on the track I used it on today. Just the low end alone, then you have the tilt and the low pass filter on top of that. It’s more a creative interface which makes the work easier rather than a new technology?
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Post by drbill on Apr 3, 2021 11:16:46 GMT -6
There's nothing earth shattering in its delivery. It's a solid set of filters with a great tilt filter combined. Super versatile for me. My hardware versions are a Godsend for tracking. So fast and easy. The CS often comes "before" my "carving" EQ's - like FabF while mixing. For me, it's super clean, has a good bump on the LF that just WORKS in cleaning out the LF mud while making the LF seem bigger and more full. The filters are better sounding to me than the FF HP/LP filters. The HF cut is clean and allows me to smooth out the top, while not raping the HF in the process. It's got a nice slope. The tilt (focus)? Well, it's super simple, brainless, and if your sound is "close" and doesn't need surgical EQ, it's often all it takes.
Fast, easy, and good sounding is what it's all about. Not surgery.
For those used to 4 band parametric or semi-parametric EQ's, they often "don't get it". For me, less is more, and it just works and sounds great. If you're looking to cut stuff up for problematic sources, you'll need to look elsewhere or put another EQ in series with it.
Without a doubt it's always in my top 2 plug-in EQ's used.
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Post by Guitar on Apr 3, 2021 11:17:25 GMT -6
I think it's OK. Needs a gain knob. The Low Rider is the standout sound to me, can get a huge low end on synths or drums. I am also in a mediocre mood and it's possible I'll improve my opinion when I use it more. I think it might be better than the UAD VOG or at least it was on the track I used it on today. Just the low end alone, then you have the tilt and the low pass filter on top of that. It’s more a creative interface which makes the work easier rather than a new technology? Yeah, maybe Brad can give some details to help us along, but it seems to be an active EQ of some sort. Sure, most of that technology has been common for a long time, and most manufacturers are using similar filter types and so on, but he implemented it in a pretty unique way, certainly. I can't think of any other gear that quite does what the Chop Shop does. I think it's designed to be fast to use. I've only tried it on drums and bass, I'd really like to try it on some synth pads or something. One thing that was interesting to me is it seems to have some "tone" I wonder if there's some sort of mojo amp or tranformers in there, or maybe just some juicy sounding filters.
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Post by Guitar on Apr 3, 2021 11:21:31 GMT -6
Fast, easy, and good sounding is what it's all about. Not surgery. For those used to 4 band parametric or semi-parametric EQ's, they often "don't get it". For me, less is more, and it just works and sounds great. If you're looking to cut stuff up for problematic sources, you'll need to look elsewhere or put another EQ in series with it. Without a doubt it's always in my top 2 plug-in EQ's used. I just got the Slick EQ GE from Tokyo Dawn and I'm having this hang up. I keep expecting it to be a slice and dice machine, even though I already know it's just a tone shaper. That one has a tilt in it as well. It would be interesting to compare them. I guess I'm just a slow learner for the past 2 days or so, not sure what's going on here. I'll blame the cold snap. I'm not used to using two EQ's on a track very often but I guess I should "get used to it" if I'm going to use these kinds of tools.
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Post by notneeson on Apr 3, 2021 12:31:04 GMT -6
Fast, easy, and good sounding is what it's all about. Not surgery. For those used to 4 band parametric or semi-parametric EQ's, they often "don't get it". For me, less is more, and it just works and sounds great. If you're looking to cut stuff up for problematic sources, you'll need to look elsewhere or put another EQ in series with it. Without a doubt it's always in my top 2 plug-in EQ's used. I just got the Slick EQ GE from Tokyo Dawn and I'm having this hang up. I keep expecting it to be a slice and dice machine, even though I already know it's just a tone shaper. That one has a tilt in it as well. It would be interesting to compare them. I guess I'm just a slow learner for the past 2 days or so, not sure what's going on here. I'll blame the cold snap. I'm not used to using two EQ's on a track very often but I guess I should "get used to it" if I'm going to use these kinds of tools. Maybe you just don’t need another tool? (Wrong forum?)
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 3, 2021 12:41:33 GMT -6
To echo what Bill has already said..
It's just super fast and dependable natural filters. The tilt function is great too.
I have two hardware ones and they are pretty great, the plugin doesn't have all of the mojo that the hardware has IMO. But it is still a nice plugin that is just fast and cool to use.
It's another tool. My EQs are down to 4/5 options.
Chopshop SSL EQ (waves) Si EQ Fabfilter Equality
You don't need more than that really. A broad one. Two with attitude and one is parametric(but more importantly both don't have an "analyzer interface" so you use your ears!) and then two surgical ones.
Gonna take a lot to make me buy a new plugin EQ at this point. Much more interested in getting more hardware ones(more LH95s, LC25/40s, Goly Mastering EQ)
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 3, 2021 12:46:14 GMT -6
To echo what Bill has already said.. It's just super fast and dependable natural filters. The tilt function is great too. I have two hardware ones and they are pretty great, the plugin doesn't have all of the mojo that the hardware has IMO. But it is still a nice plugin that is just fast and cool to use. It's another tool. My EQs are down to 4/5 options. Chopshop SSL EQ (waves) Si EQ Fabfilter Equality You don't need more than that really. A broad one. Two with attitude and one is parametric(but more importantly both don't have an "analyzer interface" so you use your ears!) and then two surgical ones. Gonna take a lot to make me buy a new plugin EQ at this point. Much more interested in getting more hardware ones(more LH95s, LC25/40s, Goly Mastering EQ)
Meanwhile, I pulled out a finished tune and used it on a synthesizer base. I think I get it now, it is a creative helper and makes it easier to make the low-end sit in the mix. Yesterday I was a bit confused about it, the thinking was OK and that is so special.
Could benefit from an output volume knob in the plug ins land?
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 3, 2021 12:55:14 GMT -6
To echo what Bill has already said.. It's just super fast and dependable natural filters. The tilt function is great too. I have two hardware ones and they are pretty great, the plugin doesn't have all of the mojo that the hardware has IMO. But it is still a nice plugin that is just fast and cool to use. It's another tool. My EQs are down to 4/5 options. Chopshop SSL EQ (waves) Si EQ Fabfilter Equality You don't need more than that really. A broad one. Two with attitude and one is parametric(but more importantly both don't have an "analyzer interface" so you use your ears!) and then two surgical ones. Gonna take a lot to make me buy a new plugin EQ at this point. Much more interested in getting more hardware ones(more LH95s, LC25/40s, Goly Mastering EQ)
Meanwhile, I pulled out a finished tune and used it on a synthesizer base. I think I get it now, it is a creative helper and makes it easier to make the low-end sit in the mix. Yesterday I was a bit confused about it, the thinking was OK and that is so special.
Could benefit from an output volume knob in the plug ins land?
Yeah I think a trim would be nice. Especially if you are boosting a lot! haha But yes it's a great creative tool. Nothing to distract you, just turn the knobs till it sounds good!
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Post by Mister Chase on Apr 3, 2021 14:06:46 GMT -6
I've had it for a while and never learned it. I just tried it on a drum bus to get a feel of it and I don't quite understand the low end bump feature yet but I can see it being useful. I will say the HP/LP filters sound very good. I used to think there was no such thing as a good HPF and LPF but my opinion has really changed in recent years.
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Post by Guitar on Apr 3, 2021 16:32:21 GMT -6
I just got the Slick EQ GE from Tokyo Dawn and I'm having this hang up. I keep expecting it to be a slice and dice machine, even though I already know it's just a tone shaper. That one has a tilt in it as well. It would be interesting to compare them. I guess I'm just a slow learner for the past 2 days or so, not sure what's going on here. I'll blame the cold snap. I'm not used to using two EQ's on a track very often but I guess I should "get used to it" if I'm going to use these kinds of tools. Maybe you just don’t need another tool? (Wrong forum?) That's probably it. It was ten dollars and I "couldn't resist." Same with Chop Shop. So not a huge deal but there's so much hype around these you sort of wonder what people are excited about. I certainly didn't need another EQ, you are on the nose about that. If I'm using Toneboosters EQ4, like you said, I can already do resonant high pass, tilt, low pass, tone shaping, as well as dynamic, M/S, and surgical EQ. I'm having a second wind of appreciating that plug today.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 3, 2021 16:41:15 GMT -6
Meanwhile, I pulled out a finished tune and used it on a synthesizer base. I think I get it now, it is a creative helper and makes it easier to make the low-end sit in the mix. Yesterday I was a bit confused about it, the thinking was OK and that is so special.
Could benefit from an output volume knob in the plug ins land?
Yeah I think a trim would be nice. Especially if you are boosting a lot! haha But yes it's a great creative tool. Nothing to distract you, just turn the knobs till it sounds good!
Sorry tried a bit longer this one is not for me. I am always better with TDR Nova.
I hope they take it back because for a strange reason PA Demos don't run on my computer.
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Post by Guitar on Apr 3, 2021 18:08:14 GMT -6
Yeah I think a trim would be nice. Especially if you are boosting a lot! haha But yes it's a great creative tool. Nothing to distract you, just turn the knobs till it sounds good!
Sorry tried a bit longer this one is not for me. I am always better with TDR Nova.
I hope they take it back because for a strange reason PA Demos don't run on my computer.
You might be able to get an exchange for another plugin, I've done that before with PA successfully.
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