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Post by bluegrassdan on Nov 1, 2020 19:46:46 GMT -6
We had a big ol' session yesterday over at Echo Mountain Studio in Asheville, NC. This single includes a whole video documentary and we needed the extra space to spread out and physically distance. Included ETSU alumni Becky Buller and Tim Stafford on this recording as they co-wrote the song. Tracked totally live and quite ambient. Instruments/MicsBass - U47 (Stuck up a KM84 at the figerboard, but didn't use it in the mix.) Guitar (Tim's 1934 D-18) - Two KM84s (Had an M49 on the bridge, but it malfunctioned before the session started.) Mandolin - KM84 Dobro - SM69 Banjo - Two U87s Fiddle - Bumblebee Pro RM-6 Blumlein pair Lead vocal - My U47 and Fairchild 670 Baritone vocal (me) - Ela M251 Female vocal - C12 I don't recall which preamps my colleague used, other than vocals were through their Neve console and bass through API. Guitar and fiddle might have been through GML. A few observations after getting the tracks home and listening... I was least impressed with the SM69 on Dobro. Meh. In shooting out both U47s on vocals, mine (K47) is more tight and robust in the low end and has more of the "reedy" mid forwardness. Echo Mountain's has an M7 (I don't know if original, reskinned, or otherwise), which has an airy quality and less punch in the low end. Anyway, I know how you all like mic porn, so here ya go! Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by bluegrassdan on Nov 1, 2020 19:48:35 GMT -6
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 1, 2020 21:26:29 GMT -6
Sweeeeet!
Bummer about the dobro tracks. I love the SM69, do you know if the one you used was tube or the solid state version? The tube is one of my favorite drum OH mics.
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Post by bluegrassdan on Nov 1, 2020 21:34:03 GMT -6
It was tube version. It's totally useable and not bad, just not what I was expecting. It was too slow. Less defined. Mushy.
I dunno which pre Ben was running it through. That might have contributed.
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Post by bluegrassdan on Nov 1, 2020 21:36:07 GMT -6
I will also say that the lead vocal through the Neve console and Fairchild 670 was just too mid-forward. It certainly works fine, but I tend to like my 47 on vocals through a clean preamp.
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Post by Vincent R. on Nov 1, 2020 21:58:56 GMT -6
Nice!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 2, 2020 10:01:16 GMT -6
I just got my screen dirty...
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Post by plinker on Nov 2, 2020 11:42:41 GMT -6
Thanks for the porn, Dan.
I only now realize that you play with Becky Buller. I've seen you play a couple of times at the Del Val Bluegrass Fest and was seriously impressed with your work -- of course, the rest of the band is "OK" too ;-}
Also, you're a South Jersey guy too. It's nice to finally put things together.
Looking forward to more...
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Post by Ward on Nov 2, 2020 12:38:44 GMT -6
What a beautiful thread!!
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Post by drumsound on Nov 3, 2020 1:37:02 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing this, Dan. Be sure to post the video once its out there in the world.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 3, 2020 8:53:11 GMT -6
So much great gear, it's like a classic beatles session or something, but in 2020, would love to see the video.
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Post by bluegrassdan on Nov 3, 2020 22:07:46 GMT -6
After living with the tracks for a few days, I'm thinking the SM69 might not have been the issue. Rather, everything that went through the Neve 8068 came out sounding slow, mushy, and lacking detail.
Call me crazy, but I guess I just don't like the Neve.
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Post by spindrift on Nov 3, 2020 22:20:11 GMT -6
After living with the tracks for a few days, I'm thinking the SM69 might not have been the issue. Rather, everything that went through the Neve 8068 came out sounding slow, mushy, and lacking detail. Call me crazy, but I guess I just don't like the Neve. That makes sense. I have a wonderful stereo tube pre built by this guy named Dan that is truly wonderful on so many sources!
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Post by bluegrassdan on Nov 3, 2020 22:48:27 GMT -6
After living with the tracks for a few days, I'm thinking the SM69 might not have been the issue. Rather, everything that went through the Neve 8068 came out sounding slow, mushy, and lacking detail. Call me crazy, but I guess I just don't like the Neve. That makes sense. I have a wonderful stereo tube pre built by this guy named Dan that is truly wonderful on so many sources! HA! Wait until the NEXT preamp!
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Post by ericn on Nov 4, 2020 20:20:12 GMT -6
After living with the tracks for a few days, I'm thinking the SM69 might not have been the issue. Rather, everything that went through the Neve 8068 came out sounding slow, mushy, and lacking detail. Call me crazy, but I guess I just don't like the Neve. That makes sense. I have a wonderful stereo tube pre built by this guy named Dan that is truly wonderful on so many sources! Dan? Who’s this Tube Glass Dan?😁 Great stuff, can’t wait to hear the results.
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 7, 2020 0:50:09 GMT -6
After living with the tracks for a few days, I'm thinking the SM69 might not have been the issue. Rather, everything that went through the Neve 8068 came out sounding slow, mushy, and lacking detail. Call me crazy, but I guess I just don't like the Neve. That makes sense. I have a wonderful stereo tube pre built by this guy named Dan that is truly wonderful on so many sources! Berkeley, CA?(later LA...)?
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