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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 1, 2020 16:12:39 GMT -6
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Post by drbill on Nov 1, 2020 16:44:32 GMT -6
 Interesting piece definitely. I like the pullout tray though - if it's the one I think it is. But yeah, not a SB or even a competitor. Closer to a Chroma + but even then, not really. It's really a 1RU color host with transformer less mic pre's. But let your speculation run free!!! Haha!!! Nice unit and congrats to DIYRE!! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 1, 2020 16:57:52 GMT -6
I’d been reading about it and their modules for a while but didn’t realize this was ready to drop. SB reference was, of course, facetious, but good humoured ! |
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Post by drbill on Nov 1, 2020 17:07:32 GMT -6
I’d been reading about it and their modules for a while but didn’t realize this was ready to drop. SB reference was, of course, facetious, but good humoured ! Ready to pre-order. I think they are due sometime before the end of the year. No worries on the SB comparison quote. Just didn't want anyone who's really not familiar with what the Silver Bullet is and what it does to be mis-led. When we entered the market with the Silver Bullet, there were ZERO competitors. Slowly, other companies have been coming up with their own take on saturation based mix bus devices - the HG2 for example, MAS, etc. - and a bunch of them are cool, but actually, I'm kind of surprised that none have even come close to the versatility, the sonics, the ergo's or the intrinsic value of the Silver Bullet at it's price point. Just cause something can go on your mix buss doesn't mean it should. LOL Actually, we're happy for the competition, because it confirms our future based vision when no one even knew what a Silver Bullet was or how to use it. It's made SO MANY people who might otherwise have stayed ITB venture out into the analog world to buy a Silver Bullet and integrate it into their ITB workflow. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 1, 2020 18:16:13 GMT -6
The duo is awesome! I'm very excited for this.
The drawer feature is amazing. Just two thumb screws and it slides right now. Power disconnects and when you slide it back it it auto mutes while powering back on so no popping.
Makes it the most flexible colour swapping unit out there. It really is slick.
I'm excited to get mine.
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Post by phantom on Nov 1, 2020 18:23:04 GMT -6
I’d been reading about it and their modules for a while but didn’t realize this was ready to drop. SB reference was, of course, facetious, but good humoured ! Ready to pre-order. I think they are due sometime before the end of the year. No worries on the SB comparison quote. Just didn't want anyone who's really not familiar with what the Silver Bullet is and what it does to be mis-led. When we entered the market with the Silver Bullet, there were ZERO competitors. Slowly, other companies have been coming up with their own take on saturation based mix bus devices - the HG2 for example, MAS, etc. - and a bunch of them are cool, but actually, I'm kind of surprised that none have even come close to the versatility, the sonics, the ergo's or the intrinsic value of the Silver Bullet at it's price point. Just cause something can go on your mix buss doesn't mean it should. LOL Actually, we're happy for the competition, because it confirms our future based vision when no one even knew what a Silver Bullet was or how to use it. It's made SO MANY people who might otherwise have stayed ITB venture out into the analog world to buy a Silver Bullet and integrate it into their ITB workflow. It's always nice to see you talking about the SB. But the Black Box came before, haven't it? |
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Post by drbill on Nov 1, 2020 20:10:05 GMT -6
Ready to pre-order. I think they are due sometime before the end of the year. No worries on the SB comparison quote. Just didn't want anyone who's really not familiar with what the Silver Bullet is and what it does to be mis-led. When we entered the market with the Silver Bullet, there were ZERO competitors. Slowly, other companies have been coming up with their own take on saturation based mix bus devices - the HG2 for example, MAS, etc. - and a bunch of them are cool, but actually, I'm kind of surprised that none have even come close to the versatility, the sonics, the ergo's or the intrinsic value of the Silver Bullet at it's price point. Just cause something can go on your mix buss doesn't mean it should. LOL Actually, we're happy for the competition, because it confirms our future based vision when no one even knew what a Silver Bullet was or how to use it. It's made SO MANY people who might otherwise have stayed ITB venture out into the analog world to buy a Silver Bullet and integrate it into their ITB workflow. It's always nice to see you talking about the SB. But the Black Box came before, haven't it? I don't think so. But I could be wrong.... |
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Post by lpedrum on Nov 1, 2020 20:24:50 GMT -6
Interesting piece definitely. I like the pullout tray though - if it's the one I think it is. But yeah, not a SB or even a competitor. Closer to a Chroma + but even then, not really. It's really a 1RU color host with transformer less mic pre's. Although to be fair, the intentional design of the transformer less mic pre is to be able to allow a choice of transformers on the Colour Palette. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 1, 2020 22:39:19 GMT -6
Just gonna leave this hear. Not many slots left!
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Post by hadaja on Nov 1, 2020 23:10:55 GMT -6
Do i have to solder/build this
Or do you buy it completed with your choice of colours that are already built?
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 1, 2020 23:47:08 GMT -6
Do i have to solder/build this Or do you buy it completed with your choice of colours that are already built? this is a DIY. All parts and components come with it though. Very nice and easy builds. |
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Post by phantom on Nov 2, 2020 7:28:16 GMT -6
It's always nice to see you talking about the SB. But the Black Box came before, haven't it? I don't think so. But I could be wrong.... I honestly don't know either. I think Black Box is from 2014 or 2015. When was released the Silver Bullet? |
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Post by BradM on Nov 2, 2020 9:57:16 GMT -6
I’d been reading about it and their modules for a while but didn’t realize this was ready to drop. SB reference was, of course, facetious, but good humoured ! When we entered the market with the Silver Bullet, there were ZERO competitors. Slowly, other companies have been coming up with their own take on saturation based mix bus devices - the HG2 for example, MAS, etc. - and a bunch of them are cool, but actually, I'm kind of surprised that none have even come close to the versatility, the sonics, the ergo's or the intrinsic value of the Silver Bullet at it's price point. Just cause something can go on your mix buss doesn't mean it should. Oh I don't know... I think some of them do offer really great sonics and versatility. I wouldn't hesistate to use an HG2 or MAS in my studio. Both are exceptional designs, and I consider Eric and Jeff be friends. Brad |
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 2, 2020 10:48:26 GMT -6
Is my English too bad?
I could use this one with three color options mix and tracking?
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 2, 2020 10:49:52 GMT -6
DOUBLE POST
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 2, 2020 10:50:22 GMT -6
Is my English too bad? I could use this one with three color options mix and tracking? Yes it has mic inputs and line level inputs. |
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Post by BradM on Nov 2, 2020 11:06:14 GMT -6
I don't think so. But I could be wrong.... I honestly don't know either. I think Black Box is from 2014 or 2015. When was released the Silver Bullet? We unveiled the Silver Bullet at AES in October of 2014. I'm really excited for this new DIYRE Duo. I'm proud to have helped wth the mechanical design (thanks for the opportunity, Peterson!). I think a lot of Colour fans are really going to love it. |
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Post by plainofjars on Nov 2, 2020 11:30:09 GMT -6
To be honest, probably the best "poor man's solution" is a decent (doesn't need to be super fancy) reel-to-reel machine to pass tracks through and sum in your daw. Or you could do some basic multitracking on the tape machine and then dump into the daw, repeat. Of course this depends somewhat on the style of music. But even the SB can't do actual tape saturation and compression.
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Post by phantom on Nov 2, 2020 11:35:44 GMT -6
To be honest, probably the best "poor man's solution" is a decent (doesn't need to be super fancy) reel-to-reel machine to pass tracks through and sum in your daw. Or you could do some basic multitracking on the tape machine and then dump into the daw, repeat. Of course this depends somewhat on the style of music. But even the SB can't do actual tape saturation and compression. The Silver Bullet is not supposed to do anything like a tape. It's more about the sound of a console. But a LTL hardware like the SB, but with the sound of tape is an wonderful idea. Don't you think, Brad, dr. Bill? |
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Post by drbill on Nov 2, 2020 11:36:28 GMT -6
But even the SB can't do actual tape saturation and compression. Of course not. Nor did we design it to do that. |
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Post by drbill on Nov 2, 2020 11:40:14 GMT -6
but with the sound of tape is an wonderful idea. Don't you think, Brad, dr. Bill? Brad is going to say yes. I'm going to say a qualified no. I lived with 2" tape machines for a good part of my studio life. There is most definitely something that they bring to the table. But now I live in a digital world. And tape is in short supply, mega expensive, and I don't "re-use" tape. So I have learned to get what I'm looking for sonically in other ways. Tape is not the nirvana that many guys who have never really worked extensively on it think - but it does contribute to the "sound of the day". Back in that day, we always worked around it's limitations. Now those limitations are "magical". Haha!! |
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Post by drbill on Nov 2, 2020 11:46:23 GMT -6
When we entered the market with the Silver Bullet, there were ZERO competitors. Slowly, other companies have been coming up with their own take on saturation based mix bus devices - the HG2 for example, MAS, etc. - and a bunch of them are cool, but actually, I'm kind of surprised that none have even come close to the versatility, the sonics, the ergo's or the intrinsic value of the Silver Bullet at it's price point. Just cause something can go on your mix buss doesn't mean it should. Oh I don't know... I think some of them do offer really great sonics and versatility. I wouldn't hesistate to use an HG2 or MAS in my studio. Both are exceptional designs, and I consider Eric and Jeff be friends. Brad I never said that they didn't. I said that I don't think that any of the options embrace the "total package" that the SB does. That's of course my opinion only. |
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Post by plainofjars on Nov 2, 2020 11:52:01 GMT -6
But even the SB can't do actual tape saturation and compression. Of course not. Nor did we design it to do that. I never said you did. My point was that a tape machine can impart a certain kind of post-processing "finish", "glue" etc which is also the stated goal of the SB. Obviously the 1) method by which it achieves that saturation and glue, and 2) the specific aesthetic characteristics of that saturation/glue are not the same as the SB. I doubt anyone would assume otherwise. Worth considering. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 2, 2020 11:57:30 GMT -6
Soooooo...not to be that guy...Cause I love my Silver bullet and love talking about it..
But should I start a new thread about the Duo to keep it more on topic???
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Post by drbill on Nov 2, 2020 12:02:23 GMT -6
But should I start a new thread about the Duo to keep it more on topic??? yeah, probably good idea. This thread was kind of skewed from the outset by the misleading title. Im excited for DIYRE, and said as much in my first post, but it isn't a SB competitor as was implied. Do it!! |
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